Glass of wine...... yes or no?!

[babyhopeful2018]

I'm looking for advice?!

I'm heading away on a overnight business trip next week with 3 other work colleagues.

I'm only 8 weeks and I don't really want to tell people until my 12 week scan.

We are going out for a meal on the Tuesday night and I know they will expect to be ordering wine for the table.

Will 1 wine spritzer be ok or should I stick to none at all?!

Also does anyone have any good 'excuses' not to drink at events xx

@glintandglide there is always a risk. if you can't stop your self having "one" alcoholic drink while you're pregnant then you have alcohol problem

A risk of what? Because it’s not FAS

ok

if you can't stop your self having "one" alcoholic drink while you're pregnant then you have alcohol problem - what a ridiculous comment, fine if you don't want to have a drink while pregnant then don't, but to say that someone who would like the occasional glass of wine whilst pregnant has an 'alcohol problem' is totally OTT.

Pregnant women are perfectly capable of making up their own mind without being dictated to by the nanny state or other holier-than-though women.

Well know you know you’re spouting incorrect information how about leaving pregnant women alone and not spotting your misogynistic and uninformed opinions at them?

It’s completely out of order to refer to pregnant women consuming alcohol as Extremely selfish or alcohol dependant. Who do you think you are?

If you don't want to drink, don't! It is a very personal decision.
However, the antibiotics story never fools anyone.
During the day say you have headache. When it comes to the meal, look at it as if you are making a decision and say 'no, I need this headache gone, will have a soft drink snd see how I feel in a bit'

"then you have alcohol problem"

Oh piss off you twat!

Lol people are ridiculous a spritzer is going to have no effect whatsoever on the baby ffs

These threads are lolz, all the nutters come out to tell the OP she's an alcoholic because she considered having a white wine spritzer to cover up the fact that she's pregnant.

Lolz

I was looking for the bit in Matthew Walker’s ‘Why we sleep’ book that made me think that if I had my time again I might not have any alcohol. I came across the following review which kind of highlights the ‘potential harms vs Mum’s freedoms’ argument:

‘Very occasionally, Walker’s zeal tips into zealotry. He implies that women should abstain completely from alcohol consumption during pregnancy, noting that just a glass or two of wine will temporarily inhibit a fetus’s REM sleep and that “every hour of REM sleep appears to count” — a speculation that gives short shrift to the expectant mom and the benefit that a moment’s relaxation might bring her.’

Fantastic book by the way. Now I work with children I am very very aware of the impact of the pre and post natal environment on brain development. Following current advice is important.

I totally think that whatever your thoughts on drinking when pregnant, the point is that you shouldn't feel you have drink on a work trip – it's your choice! Loads of people choose not to drink for lots of reasons (health, religion, just don't like it). I think people feel you are somehow judging their choice to drink if you say no. They feel better once they realise you aren't judging thier drinking, so I'd try to look like you are really considering it but genuinely want something else more, eg
(Looking indecisive when offered) Hmm, I'm actually really craving a coca-cola. I'd love some wine later (then just don't get one or as others have said pour but don't drink – no one notices)
Or if you can, go to the bar on you own and order something that looks alcoholic eg a tonic or AF beer.
It's sad people don't just accept 'I don't fancy it today' though.

you'll get loads of people saying they drank and their baby is fine. they are either wrong or very very lucky.

It's not that simple. The mechanisms by which alcohol damages unborn children are complex and random. One person can have several glasses and be fine and another may not.

It's probable that one (125ml) glass of wine will do absolutely no harm; but it isn't completely sure, especially so early. There is some evidence that any amount CAN do harm, even if it usually doesn't.

It's also probably that FASD is far more common than is realised and children who are 'fine' actually have mild problems with emotional regulation or cognitive development that are tied to maternal drinking.

Lots of these children are now adults across the age spectrum, and as mentioned a few times on MN women didn't know they were pregnant until much later than now in previous decades. So anyone implying one small glass or a few mouthfuls of alcohol gives children FAS is implying that all children and adults over 10 have it.

@BrownTurkey I read that! And Ive decided now not to have the occasional glass of wine. I found it very persuasive and a bit of research reveals the brain development is happening from 28 weeks. Interesting the theoretical link to autism but I agree re the puritanical attitude...