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Bugaboo Bee or Babyzen Yoyo?

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LadyPenelope3 · 26/01/2017 16:18

.... yet another buggy thread from me!

Think we have narrowed it down to these two choices. The main factor in our decision is that we live in London in a second floor flat (no lift).

The Yoyo is a better value option than the Bee, but I don't like that they have to go front-facing as soon as they grow out of the carry cot.

Which one would you choose?! Or do you have something else to suggest?

Thank you.

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Elkalv · 28/01/2017 00:00

What about stoke explorer? Does anyone has experience with it? I like the fact that the baby is high up.

Bubbinsmakesthree · 28/01/2017 04:04

We have had a Yoyo since DS was about 10 months - before that was in sling/carrier most of the time (though we did have a cheap second hand travel system which was rarely used). It has stood up to daily use for nearly two years with no obvious signs of wear and tear.

I have no experience of the Bee but I love how portable the Yoyo is - I often fold and carry over my shoulder on public transport, stick it under the table in restaurants etc.

Have DC2 on the way now and wondering whether to buy the infant section for it.

FoxtrotOscarBackToEconomy · 28/01/2017 06:33

I have had a Yoyo for 2.5 years now, including the from birth version. It has had reasonably heavy use and been great, but like naughty we also have an off road Baby Jogger because we needed two extremes.

What I love about the Yoyo is how small it folds which is so useful for storage, not just at home, but in cafes and restaurants without much space, when you go on holiday in the car, shopping or on the plane - even easyJet now let us take it on board as a piece of hand luggage if we are within our allowance.

I have found the ride ok with DC who is now around 12kg. My small 4 year old was able to use it when he was tired on a long day out.

My big negative was finding that in the lie flat cocoon the sunshade was too small and the parasol wasn't much good and I think it broke in the end. If you are having a spring or summer baby I would look for a better sun shade. It doesn't have a huge basket underneath but. It is ok and I tended to use a rucksack.

I have no experience of the Bee so can't compare.

And while I'm on the pushchair review, I will say that the Baby Jogger Summit XC is an incredible off-roader. We've had it over 5 years, it has been through mud, snow, beaches, fields and forests. It is still going strong.

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LadyPenelope3 · 28/01/2017 07:42

I think the Stokke looks lovely too Elkalv, but it's quite a lot heavier than the Bee and the Yoyo unfortunately.

Foxtrot thanks for that feedback. I am due in a few months so indeed a spring/summer baby.

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SweepTheHalls · 28/01/2017 07:44

Anyone used the armadillo flip?

Artandco · 28/01/2017 09:48

One tip is bare in mind all pram push lovely in a shop empty of weight. A 2 year old could be 15kg. So take heavy bags with you when testing and load them into pram and basket and then see how well they push still

Elkalv · 28/01/2017 11:23

What about stoke explorer have you considered it? I like the idea of having baby high up)

JohnLapsleyParlabane · 28/01/2017 14:27

@SweepTheHalls I have an Armadillo Flip. It's great in many ways but it's heavy. Also when you put the car seat on the chassis it rides high and is very unbalanced going over kerbs etc. Also its not a one handed push for people under 5 foot unless on very smooth flat ground (not sure if the new one with adjustable handle is better). . That said, I love it. Big basket, comfy seat, good breaks, big hood. We have an Ickle Bubba Aurora as a second pram which I use for days out as it folds more easily and is almost as light as a Babyzen yoyo.

SweepTheHalls · 28/01/2017 14:53

It's as a second stroller I was thinking @JohnLapsleyParlabane as I really wanted one that stayed parent facing

JohnLapsleyParlabane · 28/01/2017 14:55

My DD is 15 months and still very comfortable parent facing in the Flip

SweepTheHalls · 28/01/2017 15:05

How much room does she have under the hood? We gave an icandy apple, and there doesn't seem to be an enormous amount of room. Left!

MiniMaxi · 28/01/2017 15:09

We have a Bee. It's generally pretty good. We live upstairs and it's a bit hefty to lug up the narrow staircase - but a big advantage is you can detach the bassinet (if you choose to buy one), and just bring that up if you are able to leave the chassis downstairs. Whereas I'm not sure with the Yoyo whether that's possible.

That said, only really applies first few months while baby is in the bassinet anyway!

The other downside is that it's not great on rough terrain but that applies to both models you're considering.

Will you definitely have to carry the whole pram up?

JohnLapsleyParlabane · 28/01/2017 15:11

Loads of room. She's 75th centile so reasonably tall.
Sorry for the derail OP!

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LadyPenelope3 · 28/01/2017 15:40

Derail away John! Smile

Hi Mini that's helpful thank you. I could leave the chassis in the car if we have a space near the flat. You are right in saying the Yoyo folds/carries with the newborn insert on it so you bring the whole thing up. It's so light though! Did you consider anything else other than the Bee?

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LadyPenelope3 · 29/01/2017 08:34

For anyone watching this thread, a shop yesterday also recommended the Mountain Buggy Nano as light and foldable. I didn't like it as much as the Bee and the Yoyo but the price is better.

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PonderLand · 29/01/2017 08:43

Sorry if you've looked at it but the urbo2 is what we've got and I still love it now.
The car seat fits on easily as does the pram seat or the carry cot, they all just slot in, no buttons or anything.
Easy to fold but requires two hands. Carrycot lasted my DS until he was 7 months (we used it for day time naps at home), although he is on the 2nd/9th centile. Basket is big and there is a big hood for carrycot and the pram. Pram seat can be forward facing or facing out.

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LadyPenelope3 · 29/01/2017 10:00

Thanks Ponder. The Urbo looks really nice. However it says the seat unit is over 10kg and the carry cot is over 6kg so I think I would struggle getting this up our stairs.

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Elena80 · 30/01/2017 10:41

I'm not sure if you've made a decision yet but I've been where you are now. I've made the mistake and bought a bee...after six months of using it I bought a yoyo and sold the bee on ebay. My big luck was that I managed to test my friend's yoyo for 2 weeks; no need to say I was convinced on the spot. The yoyo is so much easier to fold and unfold, carry and manoeuvre and after a couple of rounds of practice I was able to do that one handed.

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LadyPenelope3 · 30/01/2017 11:02

Thanks Elena. That's good to know. Did you find the handling/suspension much different?

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Elena80 · 30/01/2017 11:31

The suspension are very similar I didn't noticed any differences but I found the yoyo's handling just a little lighter.

ScoobyDoosTinklyLaugh · 30/01/2017 11:54

I haven't tried a bee but we've had a yoyo with the 0+ and 6+ attachments and we love it. I'm the only person I know who hasn't switched to a maclaren type buggy after a year.

We live in a city and it handles fine on cobbles and uneven pavements. It struggles in deep fallen leaves in the autumn but I think most Prams and buggies do.

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LadyPenelope3 · 30/01/2017 11:55

Thanks Elena. One of the things that has put me off about the Yoyo is the lack of suspension on the wheels, whereas the Bee has suspension on the front wheels. Good to know you didn't really see any difference.

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Elena80 · 30/01/2017 12:02

I bought my yoyo last year and it has 4 wheel suspension, but as I said, not much of a difference.

purplecat27 · 30/01/2017 12:17

I've never tried the Bee but have a Yoyo and love it. It does have some suspension on the wheels and for normal use it's fine. It does shake on cobbles and if there are big gaps between the cobbles and you're going slowly the wheel can get a bit stuck but I think that's a lot to do with the size of the wheel rather than inadequate suspension, and I don't think the wheels on the Bee are much bigger, if at all. I've gone 'off road' onto grass with no problem and walked miles and miles with it on tarmac pavement and paving slabs with no issues. It folds into the footwell of my Yaris and so I've still got my whole boot space, and is quite small set up so we just leave it set up in our hall most of the time (also in a flat). I've carried it on my shoulder using the strap whilst carrying the baby, and it came on the plane with us as hand luggage when we went away! I've amazed people on trains and in cafes holding the baby whilst folding or unfolding it with one hand. For convenience and ease of use I honestly couldn't recommend it highly enough. We kept baby in the parent facing carrycot bit for as long as possible, she's 75th centile for height and was in there for 8 months, then I had to turn her world facing which I wasn't best pleased about but I'd still say the positives outweigh the negatives. It's also nice and light to push around when baby wants to go in the sling whilst you're out and about.

DustOffYourHighestHopes · 30/01/2017 12:23

Love my bee, great suspension and handles v well.

Using a cocoon (and then foot muff) in winter, and their special summer shade in summer - makes it so much better. No need for a parasol. It has been abroad/everywhere. The hood can be made higher when your child grows.

How small it crushes down is not really a factor for me - we have so much stuff at the bottom (another bee pro) that we never make it smaller in restaurants etc.

2 weeks after section I was carrying my tiny baby in a soft sling. don't try to carry the pushchair up those stairs until well after you feel better!

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