Early scan - thought I was 7+5 but embryo only measures 5+5 - any experience?

[MrsMcJnr]

My scan today showed a very small pregnancy sac (11.4mm) in my womb by external scan and showed a yolk inside it on an internal scan. I had the scan because I've had some spotting on and off for the last 4 weeks but no proper bleeding and no pain.

I have been told either my dates are wrong or the baby is not growing. I have a 2nd scan booked in 12 days to see what has happened.

I would really welcome any similar experiences, good or bad to help me weigh this up in my head. Thank you.

Thank you both so much for posting for me.

Mrsmcjnr,

just thinking of you today. Hope you are doing ok, it must be a hard time for you. I posted a few days ago but just wanted to let you know again you are in my thoughts,

dd1

Thank you DD1 - only a week now - getting nervous!

Hello MrsMc....hows the bleeding? If you are not having much hopefully that's a good sign too. After my first scan in your position proper bleeding started within 3 days and then just got heavier and heavier.

I read your post about looking up sac shapes too so again hopefully that is a positive.

The waiting is just painful...but at least you are halfway now.

Still got everything crossed!

MrsMcJnr

My experiance was unfortunatly negative. But I just wanted to say. I remember very clearly the waiting for someting to happen (one-way or another). and how hard that can be. My sympthy is with you.

Hello there. Thank you for thinking of me. I do really appreciate the support. No bleeding & no pain. I still have a bit of brown spotting, more like CM than blood if you know what I mean. Been having that since Friday, when AF would have been due, so I think it might be related to that. It's the same as I had the week before I got my BFP and then again a couple of weeks ago. I'm beginning to wonder if it's actually to do with cervical erosion?

I know what you mean though about time passing without anything happening, that is making me feel more hopeful though there do seem to be more missed miscarriages around than seems statistically possible. I thought it was only 1%.

I am actually feeling more nervous than impatient for next Weds to arrive, I guess I only want to know the outcome if it's good! That said, I suppose there is a chance that it might be inconclusive again and that that'll mean more waiting but I hope not. Even on their dates as opposed to mine, there should be a HB next week if there is going to be one.

mramc ((hugs)) only just seen this, thinking of you! waiting is never easy hope your ok

had experiences of this good and bad - with my eldest they aged the foetus at a couple of weeks less than my dates but he is now a healthy and loud 6 year old. Unfortunately last year I had bleeding at 11 weeks and the scan showed a 5 week sac and yolk and I miscarried. Once we are born we all grow at different rates - surely that happens in the womb too??? Will keep my fingers crossed for you xxx

Thank you all for your posts. The support you have all given me in the last week (the longest of my life to date) has ben wonderful, not long to go now until the moment of truth. I am VERY nervous already.

I've had tow missed miscarriages. The second one I had an ealry scan at what should have been 7+ weeks and the embryo jusy showed as 5+ weeks - which I knew wasn't possible as I wouldn't have tested positve when I did.

Anyway, they insisted on waiting for a seocnd scan (and nearly tried to make me come back again for another scan - despite the sonographer having been suprised at seeing me again - they were misinterpeting her reports), but I also had bloods done by my GP in between times, so knew that the pregnancy had failed (had to o have three sets done as the result after the seocnd set was inconclusive).

I never had any bleeling or any pain. My only "distress" was when the hopsital tried to make me come back again - I had a pink fit and said I wanted to arrange for the ERPC now. I was in having it doen two days later.

Any chance of your docotr doing bloods tests (need to be done a couple fo days apart to check changes in hormone levels)? That's another way of checking if the pregnancy is continuing?

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Prettybird ? thank you for sharing that with me . I?m sorry that you?ve been through what you have how are you feeling about things now?

When you said ?which I knew wasn't possible as I wouldn't have tested positive when I did?, do you remember when that was? I tested positive on 26/1 when I would have been 4 weeks based on LMP/ 3+5 based on when I think I Ov?d.

I was given a 50/50 chance at my scan and though the sonographer suggested blood tests and a re-scan 12 days later, the Midwives in the EPU explained that in their experience, the blood results can be inconclusive and cause more stress so they wouldn?t do them and just scheduled the scan. I have braced myself for the possibility of an inconclusive result again on 7/3 but I do have high hopes that I?ll be told everything is ok. I hope I am not being unrealistic. As I only have a few days to go now until the scan, I don?t think it?s worth seeing my GP now (especially as she chose not to do blood tests before when I spotted on 13/2).

I can understand why you were annoyed when you knew the pregnancy wasn?t viable that they were wasting your time, leaving you in limbo. It must have been awful. I know already that if things are not viable, we?ll want to expedite things and have an ERPC rather than wait to see what my body decides to do. I know that if we lose this baby (and I still have strong hopes that she is ok) the best recovery for us will be to try again as soon as we are able to do so.

In my case it turned out to have been twins (I had been on Clomid) - which might explain the "high"/strange blood results.

Can't remember the exact days, but essetnail I had tested at around 4weeks +5 days days from LMP, so at 7+ weeks post LMP, if I had only been 5+weeks, I oulwd effectively hadve tested positive at 3 weeks, and I didn't think the Boots Digital was that sensitive (ie one week post concetption).

I'm surprise at the midwives not supporting the blood tests. I know in my case, I did need to go back for a third test: the result between one and two was very high (abnomrally high) HCH levles and the seoncd test showed a slight drop. Should have been icnreasing, but 'cos of the high level he took a third one, which showed a further, this time significant drop. He told me afterwards that he had suspected a molar pregnancy - but actually it was a twin pregnancy, which the next scan confirmed (still not viable though - the songorapher had suspected the first time but hadn't wanted to mention it to me). In fact, I've just re-checked my own thread in Mumsnet, and the midwives made me come back three times for scans to confirm that the prenangancy was non-viable and nearly tried to get me to come back a 4th (tht was why the sonographer had been so surprised to see me). The hsoptial then tried to tell me that they wouldn't do the ERPC until they had done bloods - at which point I lost it. It makes me to remember it all. It took over three weeks and an uncessary scan - all of which time I was in limbo. I even had to miss a friend's funeral for one of the scans - althugh that did help to put things in persepctive.

Anyway, sorry for the rant - it doesn't really help you in your situtation. You're rgiht - your scan is now so close, that there isn't any reall point in having them done.

Do you still feel pregnant? In my case I had lost the symptoms again - my boobs weren't getting bigger, I wasn't peeing all the time and my waist wasn't thickening.

mrsmac when i went for my first scan if you remenber i bleed too, i was 8 +4 days and they said i was just under 7 weeks, and as you know i thought i new when i ovulated! and i got a positve pg on 3 weeks 4 days, so it depends how much it grows

I tested positive on 26/1 when I would have been 4 weeks based on LMP/ 3+5 based on when I think I Ov?d.

I also charted and I tested positive with my DD at 12 DPO which is 3 weeks + 5 days after ovulation and I also had implantation bleed (browny blood in CM) the week before my BFP.

I have also heard that pregnant mums can also have a small amount of break though bleeding when their period would of been due, but I never got that.

HTH

You alos asked how I feel now - this was in October/November 2005. I'm still sad that I haven't become pregnant since then - and am trying to come to terms with the fact that as I am now 45 (46 next month), ds is going to be an only child.

But at the moment I'm more concerned about my Mum, who has been in a bad accident on holiday in Inida. It helps put things in perespective!

That?s such a sad story, I am so sorry you went through that. It?s just awful. You must have had to be so brave.

I have been pregnant before 10 years ago, I had a termination, all the circumstances were wrong. I have been trying so hard to remember how I felt physically. I only found out at 8 weeks and had a termination at 11 weeks. I know I wasn?t sick but was terribly tired and the smell of coffee, wine and smoke made me retch. This time, I?ve known for so long that it?s hard to be clear on symptoms. I have felt sicker (like sea sickness) this week than any other and my waist is thickening, I am having headaches and am terribly, terribly tired and often ratty. I?m thirsty all the time, weeing a lot and am windy My boobs are still swollen and I can see the blue veins and the red spider ones still plus the milk ducts (TMI) but I think they are less sore than they were. My veins in my legs are still very achy too. So, I think I do still have symptoms but I?ve been taking all them with a pinch of salt though as the MW told me that it is the sac that produces the hormones and not the baby so for as long as the sac is there I guess I?d feel this way regardless of a good or bad outcome for the baby.

Hi Trace, thanks for posting. I had actually forgotten what had happened to you exactly but I do remember your distress at the time. If this works out for me and it is just earlier than I thought I shall be seriosuly questioning my charting techniques! How are you feeling these days hon?

Sorry, crossed posts. That one was for Prettybird. I?m so pleased that you have your DS but appreciate that things must still be very hard. I hope your Mum is ok and on the mend very soon. I know what you mean about perspective. A friend had a still born recently and it does make you realise how much larger other people?s issues are.

Thank you for posting BabiesEverywhere . I?ve had spotting quite a lot but I think it might be my cervix.

am still same 25 weeks now i want this baby so much but just wish i was 40 to get it over with! i to have questioned my charting as i i thought i hasd it sussed when i ovultaed i did okp sticks and person and my temp all said i ovulted when i thought i did, but at scan he said it could be that the egg didnt implant till later as it waited for the sperm! i hope this helps

pretty bird so sorry about your sad time

Glad it?s going well but I can totally understand why you want to meet the baby now. Are you still that week and a bit behind what you thought then Trace?

MrsMcJnr, just thought I'd post an update to my previous post where I mentioned that the sonographer dated me a week less than I did myself at 6+4 / 7+4.

Well, I had another scan today at app. 10 weeks, and now we're almost back to my original date - so there's accuracy at the early stages for you

Still keeping my fingers crossed for you - glad to hear you have all the right symptoms!

Thanks NewDKMum - that must have been a real relief for you hon .

I have an update too - DH and I have had an exhausting and scary 24 hours. I started to bleed and get cramps last night just before I went to a work function. It was probably a good thing that I went as it took my mind off things but by the time I got home, there was a lot and DH and I really thought things were over and we cried and cried and neither of us could sleep The bleeding seemed to lessen in the night but I still felt lousy and we both felt resigned to the worst fate. I called the EPU and they booked me in for a scan at 3pm. Both DH and I spent the day under a blanket on the couch, just waiting. The bleeding started again around lunchtime which made us even more anxious. When we got to the EPU, I had drunk so much water that I was in agony and could hardly move. The sonographer actually said she was surprised I could walk and to drink half as much next time. Anyway, the sac was still there, unaffected by the bleed and quite a bit bigger than last week 14mm x 18mm instead of 11.4mm. We still couldn?t see the yolk, fetal pole or HB but it wasn?t really a good time for an internal scan so we are to go back next Friday to see if anything has changed. She couldn?t work out where the bleeding was coming from; there was no fluid or masses seen. I guess these things can happen. Anyway, safely home and feeling much better about things. I know our chances are still only 50/50 and that the bleed could be related to the pregnancy and that the sac could be growing regardless of a baby but if there?s still hope, I?ll grab it and use it to get me through the next week

Hi MrsMc

been away with work, so just checking in to see how you are doing - sorry to hear that you've had more bleeding. But i think it is a good sign that they couldn't see a reason for the bleeding and the fact that the sac is still growing. When I had my missed mc - the sac started to shrivel pretty quickly by the time I went back for my 2nd scan.

Just remember how much greedy has been bleeding and she's been given the all clear so far - it could be totally unrelated bleeding.

If it's any concilation, my boobs are still sore, but nowhere near as sore as previously. i'd say feeling sick and tired is a good sign.

got to go -DH is back with supper!

take care and big hugss
xxx

Hi Fettle ? how are you feeling? Thanks for your post and for the hope. I did ask if the sac had collapsed at all and was told it had not and was exactly the same as last week, just bigger. DH and I got such a welcome surprise when she said that as we really were not expecting to come out with any remaining hope. My boobs are suddenly sorer today again, weird.

MrsMcJ, sorry to hear that you've had more bleeding, hoping it's settled down a bit now for you. Hopefully the sac growing is a real positive though, here's to Friday for you now!!

Have to dash but will be thinking of you over the weekend.