Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
links.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Re ondansetron;I was also still sick with it, but a million times less than without. I took the pills at 6am, 2pm and 10pm; is that worth a try freshbread?

Re achey muscles; your body is doing everything on much much less.fuel than normal, you're bound to ache. One of the reasons rest is so very important.

Hi! Lurking a bit as been having some flashbacks recently to being pregnant

For the Ondan question it only worked for me really well if I took it religiously every 8 hours, with cyclizine also every 8 hours but staggered by four hours with the Ondan. I had alarms set for every four hours round the clock. That helped me get on top of it... and meant I could give the mental finger to everyone that told me I must be knackered with a newborn...I'd already had practice thanks!

Abutterly mines started like that too and then the vomiting kicked in after a week.

amys Congratulations, she's beautiful. I hope that things are settling down.
Like mop I'm popping on to the thread but bf is taking up a lot more time than I remember.

I finally made it to the dentist after 8 months where I couldn't face having someone poking in my mouth. It wasn't as bad as I though it would be despite having to have my first filings. So the suggestion from this thread to use mouthwash when you can't brush your teeth has saved my teeth!
HG has prepared me so much better for my second newborn stage. Despite tongue ties, mastitis, possible silent reflux and barely any sleep, it is so much easier than HG pregnancy.

Ah thank you everyone for all the well wishes 😍 every single lady's advice on here has been a god send during my pregnancy, it seems like a lifetime ago since I joined in October last year at only six weeks! The chat and guidance on this forum got Mr through such desperate times. I'm one of the lucky ones whose hg had pretty much vanished by 25 weeks, but even then this thread has kept me going!!! I'll try to keep popping in and offering support when and where I can! I'm sure mother hen has everything covered 😉 and remember, if someone suggests ginger nuts, smile politely and tell them ODFOD 😂

Evening ladies. Please indulge me by allowing a massive whinge - why the Fuckity fuck will no bloody food stay down?!!!!!!!!
8mg Ondansetron twice a day. Plus ranitidine for acid. Ketones ok now as I've managed to drink flat lucozade and flat lemon San pelligrino. But if I eat actual food it's coming back up. How long can I go on without bloody eating?! Haven't kept food down since Sunday. 33 weeks now. But I guess I don't need to be readmitted until I get ketones again?! Aaaaaaaaargh. This is all.

Back tmw, in a better frame of mind hopefully, with something constructive to say!!! X

mrsmonkey I know. It's shit. I can't eat but generally keeping ketones under control. 28 weeks, am on countdown to 30 as surely single figures left will make it feel manageable.

amysmummy will be wierd not to hear from you. You've been amazingly supportive throughout. Thank you and hope you and your dh are well

squeezed well done on facing the dentist- enjoy the cuddles and that milk drunk face post feeding!

rae hope you are getting a good night's sleep. Maybe tomorrow dh could lie next to you until your asleep then sneak off (if he's able to stay awake/stealthy enough to do so without disturbing you!) I'm exhausted physically too- not eating and trying to do anything will do that I find! That and this thing living in me sucking all my energy...

fresh like special and others I continue to vomit on ondansetron. I sometimes only have 6 or 7 hours between doses (naughty I know) but means I'm not sick after every meal...generally take it at 7, between 1 and 2, then at 9 however I'm then sick if I eat in the eve after brushing my teeth. So I've stopped eating!

Welcome butterfly sorry you've had to join but glad you've found us if that makes sense. My gp referred me to hospital when my ketones were bad and then could self refer from then onwards. As others have said netflix (from bed or sofa) was saving grace and meant I could rest and time wouldn't go so slowly! I'm sure between us we could do a what never to watch even if you really are fed up! Tinned fruit is brilliant, flat fizzy drinks and ice lollies got me through the worst.

Well ladies I made it. A whole week with ds and we didn't kill each other or die trying. I even took him swimming this morning. He then fell asleep at 11 (normally naps 12-2) but didn't want to wake him however he only had an hour due to very noisy builders. We then went to a cafe at nearby tiny airport which had 4 helicopters land and a play area for ds and a friend to entertain themselves whilst I managed a slice of cake! Ds then slept again for another hour and so did I! Sickness horrific tonight and no doubt tomorrow for actually trying to do normal parenting thinga with a toddler but dh can take ds and I will mainly be found in bed! What fun...

mrsmonkey glad your ketones are ok but not being able to eat is flipping awful. I hope it settles a bit soon

ickle I did sleep better and DH stayed- felt mean booting him out. He woke up up at 7am snoring, but at least I've had a good 7-8 hours, which is better than the night before. Huge well done for surfing the week! I hope you manage to rest today while your DH and DS spend time together. The airport cafe sounds lovely!

Hope everyone is ok today.

ickle well done for getting thru the week.especially yesterday! Hope today isn't too bad a backlash

rae so glad you've had a god nights sleep.

squeezed well done at the dentist. I remember my first post pregnancy visit; other than the the filings I had needing replacing, no new ones were needed. As you say, all the mouthwash swilling obviously helps.

mrsmonkey not being able to eat is thoroughly rotten. Glad the ketones are under control. Is there anything you can manage small nibbles of? This too shall pass. And the food you'll eat in 7 or 8 weeks will be the best dammed food you've ever had.

Wishing everyone a peaceful day

Sorry to hear you're still not doing so good mrsmonkey. Do you feel ill in any other way ie could it be a bug of some sort? If just HG, would it be worthwhile getting GP/hospital to add in an additional med as well? I do hope the sickness eases soon for you.

Well done ickle on the week of childcare. It's so tiring looking after a toddler at the best of times but with HG it's so much harder. Sorry to hear the sickness is bad for you too. Not too long til maternity leave starts and then hopefully you can increase the rest that is much needed.

rae glad you managed to get to sleep. I'm normally fast asleep by 9.30 although I'm interrupted numerous times in the night by my bladder being squashed.

butterfly I would agree with the advice you've been given by the others. It's likely that sickness will follow if you've been bed bound by nausea. Plus you're probably already very dehydrated if you've not been managing to drink much. If things are bad over the weekend, please don't hesitate to go to your out of hours or a&e. As others have said you may need to be on a drip.

As for me, I'm doing ok. Sickness is fairly infequent now although nausea is pretty much constant. I think I have just got used to it and am trying to muddle through. Chances are it'll probably last til birth although hoping I'm going to be like amys and at 22 weeks I've only got a few more weeks of it. The heartburn has really ramped up though which isn't pleasant. The gaviscon isn't working great so I may need to go get something stronger.

Waves to all new mummies. Can I ask those who already have DC, how is the transition from one to two? I'm starting to worry I and DS won't cope very well.

Aargh I have discovered the bad points of DH and DD being home - they are using the kitchen and cooking smells are in the house

Rice krispies tip was fab Rae, I sent DH out to buy me some and slowly nibbled through a couple of ramekins of them dry last night, doing the same now. I'm glad you had a better night.

Blimey ickle I'm impressed at your activities yesterday, it sounds like a lovely day, must have been fab to be able to do some things with DS. Sorry it's taken it's toll though.

mrsmonkey it sounds horrific, you must feel so weak. Whinge away by all means!

Are other people incredibly windy? I was presuming it's something to do with largely surviving for the last 6 days on sugary liquids and very little else.

Thanks lucinda, it's a line from a little verse we read at our baby boy's burial in January:

A butterfly lights beside us, like a sunbeam
And for a brief moment, it's beauty and glory belong to our world
Then it flies on again
And though we wish it would have stayed
We are so thankful to have seen it at all.

He was just gorgeous, the detail even at that early stage is incredible. Little hands and feet no bigger than my little fingernail but every little finger, toe, nailbed is there is perfect miniature.

Oh gosh butterfly that poem has just had me well up. So sorry for your loss but what a lovely memory!

Been very sick this morning and thay only happens when going to be a bad day. When you can't keep medication down is never a good sign.

rae really pleased you slept better fingers crossed for tonight as well!

sleepy think that sounds like me when not doing too much. Its crazy what we can adjust to as 'normal'! Also going from 1 to 2...I recommend denial! Especially of the first 3 sleep deprived months when I really struggled. Am hoping lack of sickness and being distracted by ds will get me through!

Hi ladies,
Hope butterfly I'm fairly new on here too and it is a great place to find friendly support.

Hope everyone has a reasonable weekend and gets chance to rest. Think I'll mostly be horizontal!

I've been signed off work for another week- that's five in total. How much time have you all had off work?

Xx

Sleepy I'm glad that the sickness isn't as frequent. Constant nausea is still flipping miserable though isn't it!!

Butterfly glad to hear about the Rice Krispies- that's exactly what I did, work my way through them dry. What a beautiful poem

ickle I've just realised my post this morning was riddled with spelling mistakes. Apologies!

Northern I had 7 weeks off and am now attempting to phase back for the last 3 weeks (aiming for 12 hours a week). Managed to do 12 for the first time this week! My cousin was signed off for 6 months with HG in the end.

Morning ladies, a postcard from hospital, where I was sent yesterday afternoon direct from midwife after she saw my heart rate and BP. Spent the night going to be here for a few more days from the looks.
A lot of tests and scans later they're still trying to rule out a blood clot and it looks like the cause of my weakness, racing pulse and shortness of breath may be hyperthyroidism. Do any of you have experience with this hand in hand with HG/pregnancy?

The sweet doctor who came to scan my legs for clots this morning let me have a look at the baby too and it's doing really well -- bit of thumb sucking even.

Being looked after but hospital is hospital. All the other ladies on my ward are very old and senile, which can be sad and disturbing.

Hello to all new members of Team Sick, love to those struggling through the weekend and those braving food and outings x

rae well done on 12 hours and going back for last three weeks. I'd like to get back after next week but we'll see. I'm a teacher so I'm lucky it will be the summer holidays soon. Then in September I'll only have 8 weeks before maternity leave.

almond you poor thing. I hope you get sorted soon and as much as being in hosp is the pits at least you know you are in safe hands. Glad you got to see the baby too! Hope you feel better soon xx

almond I hope you get sorted soon. My thyroid function was ok at the last test, not sure about links to HG. I was also on a ward with a dementia patient which I found very upsetting- my Nana had dementia and was in the sand state as this poor woman just before she died.

Northern don't go back if you're not up to it though. I guess at least the summer holidays are something to aim for. Doesn't feel like we're anywhere near summer, we had to put the heating on here yesterday!

Thankyou everyone for your feedback on ondansetron that was helpful. I need to accept that I am likely to vomit at 6pm! I am such a vomiting woos! You would think I would be used to it but I still hate and dread it!
butterfly I am so so very sorry for your loss. We lost a baby in October and my eyes have been opened since then to this whole world of parents carrying on after loss, memory boxes, charities who support parents, ways to remember, I have also met some wonderful woman through loss. One lady who lost her firstborn daughter loves butterfly's and seeing them reminds her of her daughter so if it's OK I would love to share that poem with her as I think she would find it very special. Xx

Preparing for baby two after HG - is it worth organising to see GP before to discuss medication/ support? Feel like maybe a bit of a waste of nhs money to go in when not even pregnant but don't think I'll be blue to muster the courage to get pregnant without some sort of assurance.

Just in case my GP isn't supportive (last time pretty much had to refuse to leave to get medication, doctor was young and I think he thought k was just fussying over a bit of morning sickness) does anyone k ow any private doctors who are HG experts? Would rather save the money but would be nice to have a backup.

rae yep I've got heating on too! Shocking.

anonsad I'm only on baby number one but if I was thinking about a second (which is highly unlikely!) I'd be straight to the doctors and as soon as I was preg I'd be on meds! X

Sorry you're in hospital almond I hope it's not for too long. I have autoimmune hypothyroidism but that's the opposite end of the spectrum so probably haven't got any useful experience. Are they checking you for anaemia as well - that can cause shortness of breath and palpitations, and would not be at all surprising with HG.

Freshbead vomit wuss here too, I find it very distressing. Hoping to goodness that I don't graduate to lots of vomiting - on the other hand I was crying down the toilet yesterday evening saying to DH "Just 5 minutes, just 5 minutes respite, would be worth a vomit". I get these horrible "on the verge" spells with cramps and pain that have me writhing and last an hour and a half or so. Was desperate for any kind of relief/release. Please do share the poem with your friend. I hope it gives her some comfort, I found verses very helpful in my grieving.

I am feeling somewhat improved on the avomine, 4 doses in. I've managed to eat a few small things and I think being less empty is helping too.

anonsad I think you are very brave to consider another pregnancy after one HG one. This is my last pregnancy whatever the outcome. I'm sure it sounds very feeble given you have all suffered far more than me, but I couldn't chose to go through the last 6 days ever again. I am dreading the rest of this pregnancy and wondering what the hell I was thinking. I've never been this ill before. I said to DH "It'll be bloody triplets won't it" God help me.

Thanks Butterfly. Turns out I am practically Iron Woman from my latest anaemia checks, and my thyroid checks are way out of whack which is what's turned them on to this latest theory. The symptoms all add up so fingers crossed the meds get me back on track.

I have found only eating what I know won't hurt too much to regurgitate helps with the vomit apprehension. Chocolate milkshake, ice cream, simple soups, scrambled egg, mashed up inside of jacket potato. Once you have had a few less painful pukes you become much less nervy about it, and it also really helps protect against the pain of an acid wrecked HG throat if what you're throwing up is essentially baby food.

Thanks for the vom tips I have given crisps a wide berth (not least because they repel me just now, but I thought they could be painful). If you are having thyroid issues in pregnancy do make sure you get follow up care in the postpartum year as well as thyroids can do funny things during/post pregnancy. It's not uncommon to be overactive for a short period and then the thyroid to collapse into underactivity. Just make sure your GP is doing regular bloods and keeping an eye on you.

Goodness, this thread is usually quiet on a Saturday!
ALongTimeComing Lovely to have you on the thread.
Anonsad It is definitely worth asking for pre-emtive meds. In the links to the sites in my introductory post, you will be able to get information about this. Also, try phoning Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020. They'll have to phone you back, but will be able to advise on sympathetic doctors in your area among other things.
NorthernLights I'm so glad this thread is useful.
AButterflyLightsBesideUs That is such a touching poem and what you say about the perfect minature is very heartbreaking; Before the pregnancy where I had he run-in with Hyperemesis I had an mmc but a late loss must be dreadful.
mrsmonkey That sounds awful. Feel free to tell me to get lost, but have cheap ice cream, jelly or tinned fruit be any use at all?
iclkid I'm shocked you are still so ill. Has it flared up again badly? I hope you haven't been this ill for too long?
Rae Great rice krispies tip.
amysmummy Lovely to hear from you.
MotherofPearl and you!
squeezed and you! Mother Hen misses you all.
eallison Great advice as ever.
almondbutter I am so sorry to hear about this. I hope they can make you feel a lot better asap. It seems odd to put someone with Hyperemeisis in with some very old ladies, but I suppose this is the hyperthyroid ward? ...Upsetting.The last time I was in hospital (not with Hyperemesis) I was next to a woman who thought it was 1962.
SleepymrsE I wrote a message to you, and can't read my writing. For goodness sake!
Apologies to anyone overlooked.

Anon I will definitely speak to my GP before we even try for number 2 (if we do- at the moment I can't imagine going through this again!)

Hope everyone is ok. I've done precisely nothing but am feeling so much less tired! I've been invited to a lovely colleague's birthday afternoon tea tomorrow. I don't want to miss it but I'm dreading the food! DH has suggested that we just drop in for a few minutes to say hi and leave a prezzie but I'm not sure.