Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Thanks kalidasa drugged is exactly how I'm feeling at the minute.

When will you be able to test if you are pregnant?

dotty quite a few people find it makes them woozy (there's another anti-histamine for HG that's even worse for that!) Its an old-style anti-histamine, that's why they carry the Do Not Operate Heavy Machinery warning.

There are several other meds that can help, have a look here.

Some people find Metoclompramide helps, or Domperidone or prochlorperazine (though that might make you drowsy too). Ondansetron is generally the best but also the strongest so docs prefer to try other things first.

Might be worth asking the docotr for one of them?

I think I might get a result tomorrow if I am; but equally a negative tomorrow is not yet a definite 'no' - it depends on when exactly it implants, if it's going to. My period is not actually due till the middle of next week (I have quite long luteal phases) so I think I'll try doing a test tomorrow or Sunday depending on how I am feeling.

I did do one a few days ago but that was really just to check that I hadn't somehow mucked up my charting completely, as I was feeling so ill but by my reckoning it was only about 5 or 6 dpo!

Re: they cyclizine, in the latter part of my pregnancy - having taken it all the way through - I did find that I could use it to take the edge off the sickness without being totally knocked out. I think in early pregnancy it's difficult because it is normal with HG to be totally exhausted anyway, I found I felt pretty drugged even when I didn't take anything! For the first 15-20 weeks I was so ill that I wasn't really trying to do anything at all other than lie around trying to avoid being admitted to hospital, so I didn't really mind the knock-out effect. Obviously different if you are trying to attain any sort of functionality!

Dotty
Same as Kali...no help with nausea from the cyclizine but joyous sleep for a couple of hours which is as good as anything for me. The number of times around week seven I sobbed that I just wanted to be in a coma for the next seven months :-(

Kali hope it goes okay today. Will be good for you to get it out the way.
Will await result of UPT.... Nervous.
Living it's just a joke isn't it? I don't eat or take my steroids first thing anymore as I know I'll just vomit it up. I have to wait until I've emptied every last bit of acid from my stomach then consume. I've got a cold too...pretty hard to breathe when your nose is blocked and you're violently vomiting... Bah roll on 2 weeks...I'll be 37 weeks on Sunday.

Meerka how rude....although I have come across g'mothers in their early thirties!

Sass glad you're getting some rehydration and hope they send you home on some decent meds.

Stemetil takes the edge off for me now whereas nothing touched it until third tri...

Hello everyone. I'm sorry, I posted a few days ago but am not really keeping up with this thread. Just feel too ill to read the Internet.

Dotty I took cyclizine last time, it did make me feel spaced out but I agree with whoever said that this is how it works. I will never forget being given a cyclizine injection in hospital and falling into a blissful vomit free daze.

We have been living abroad, posting was due to end in a month anyway; my mum came out to look after me and we have decided that she will take me back to the UK, with my 3 year old, on Monday. Flights all booked. I need the NHS. I am really worrying now about dehydration - nothing is staying down. My mum brought out buccal (stemetil), prescribed by my GP in the UK, but I hate, hate how it makes me feel- far worse than cyclizine for me, and it doesn't work for the vomiting. I am dreading the flight home (and even just getting through immigration), and even worse feel awful about leaving DH and our 5 year old here for another 4 weeks, but I can't really see an alternative - 5 year old has school, I have nothing to do with him all day in the UK.

Sorry to be self indulgent. Meerka, thanks for the advice the other day re discussing it all with my 5 year old.

Yep Cyclizine makes me dizzy, exhausted and prone to sleeping all day and night in between boughts of blurred vision!

Metroclopromide is much better for me.

Sasseh hope you are home now and recovered. How awful but glad you got the treatment you needed.

sunny far better to go to a system you understand and will get the treatment you need rather than struggle in a foreign country. I'm fortunate as all my doctors are fab and have great English and DH is of course Dutch. But still I wail at the strangeness of it all sometimes. Good luck with the move and see the next few weeks as a chance to recuperate from the HG :)

Well today went well. The consultant we saw gave us another growth scan and she's gone down in size a bit to around the 86th percentile which is surely better than the 90th she was at meerka I asked about c Section and got the response I expected - they will only do it if breech or medical emergency. Interestingly she said 'we can't force you to have a vaginal birth' but I think I'd have a real fight on my hands. She was very nice though. The baby is doing well and wriggling around. She said I wouldn't feel those sorts of movements because the big movements just don't happen so often but that all looked good. She can arrive any time now - current weight estimate is 3.5kg eek!

This is exciting - we can look at induction options next week! I see my normal consultant again on Wednesday and had a long talk with my psychiatrist too. The insomnia is causing my anxiety to rise (does anyone else experience this?) and they will discuss next week with my consultant as to whether to induce. For now, I need to just sleep when I can, be it 12pm or 3am, get rid of the cold and we will discuss it again on Friday. They want to be sure raised anxiety does not impact on the health of me or the baby, particularly as my blood pressure was on the high side again.

Interestingly my lithium levels have been on the rise which has correlated with a return of the nausea and vomiting as my body adjusts to the new levels. I was offered stronger anti sickness medication again but turned it down. Tiredness and this stupid cold are making everything worse.

But who knows, this time next week I might have an induction date :) and in the meantime I will be doing everything suggested to get labour going.

Cheating and cross posting...

Discharged from hospital this afternoon after being able to keep the anti sickness needs down orally (yesterday had to have them by iv). Had 2 & a half bags of fluid pumped in and eventually got my ketones down to normal again and my blood pressure up slightly (high resting heartbeat, but hey, can't have everything). So glad to be able to eat something! Managed toast & dry frosties on the ward, then had chocolate covered raisins, toast and a sandwich since I got in, and would have had another but I've run out of jam and i really really want jam. Or maybe chicken and sweetcorn soup...! I've missed food so much.

Had scan in hospital, baby measuring at around 9 weeks, and very very wiggly!! No wonder it's needing lots of my energy, silly thing!! My mum was able to come in with me as she had popped in to see me (despite it not being visiting hours!) and she thought it was wonderful. She asked about the blog next to baby and discovered it was yolk sac, as she's usually the one lying down not looking at the moving images! No photo to take home as it was in the gynae wars emergency scanner room rather than in ultrasound department.

Very glad to be home, but wishing dh would wait on me more ;)

I don't usually get headaches or dizziness but I'm finding myself with both today. Thinking it could be the cyclizine as they are listed under side effects. What seems to be the best way to take them for you (anyone that's on them)? With food, before, after? Are certain times of day better to take them at?

Glad you're home sasseh tell your DH you need waiting on hand and foot. You are doing this for him after all

I can't advise on when's best with the Cyclizine, my best advice is just to rest rest and try and sleep. You may find the side effects wane after a few days. If they don't, do go back to the GP and ask to try something else.

sasseh I take my tablets right before sleep (or what used to be sleep!). I don't have cyclizine but I think it is an equivalent. You could try that and see how you feel in the morning?

Great that you got to see a wriggler :) know what you mean about DH though. Mine is so busy doing everything else which is lovely of him, but then there's no time for ME :(

Cyclizine used to knock me out and sleep through the sickness but the insomnia has most definitely kicked in now every attempt at a nap these past few days have failed and cant get to sleep thanks to heartburn.

Definitely overdid it today, for some reason I got a rare burst of energy and decided to make the most of it and scrub the kitchen,clean the bathroom and do lots of washing. Exhausted and dizzy now, but know its gonna be a while before I can actually get to sleep most nights its not till at least 2am :/

Living That's great news on the growth scan and the possible induction, so jealous of you and punk for being a week ahead of me, it seems like ages away for me still ! I hope you get your c-section, the end feels like it is slowly getting closer

Everyone I know who is pregnant around the same time as me have all had their babies 2/3 weeks early. So I am now expected to go into labour early as they all have, feel like I am going to be very disappointed if I hit 40 weeks and am still no baby.

Oh diddy we are in the same boat. This insomnia is such a killer isn't it? Do you get it when you drop off then you need to turn and you have to wake up to turn you and the bump properly and it is such an effort it wakes you up again? And then you get comfy and think, damn, I need the loo?! That's me anyway! So you never really get 'sleep'. I think the longest stretch I had is 2 1/2 hours. I managed a nap around 3pm this afternoon for an hour but it just doesn't feel like quality sleep any more.

I have some books to read and am going to go to bed in a minute to start the process of trying to get some rest. My teeth are agony for some reason so have dentist finally (took a month to get an appointment!) to sort them out.

I am not hopeful of a c section. meerka has been through the Dutch system twice now and this is my first go at it and they are so anti intervention it's ridiculous. The only slight hope I have on my side is my bipolar (never thought I would say that!) and they do not want it to get worse. My psychiatrist was all for an induction in the next week or so if necessary.

Let's hope your friends' luck at early babies rubs off on you as well - you never know! you could beat both punk and me :)

Ok, Everyone I'm sorry about the inconvenience of this - Mother Hen will try to be more efficient in future, slapped wrist : - so far we have: -

Due Dates

Livingzuid 8 June
Starrynight`123 2 August
Lottiedoubtie 12 September
mrsb87 29 September
Mrsnec 1 October
Georgebythesea 4 October
Oklahoma 28 October but definitely no longer bottom of list.

Sorry about this, Okla someone is sure to update list and then you'll move up!

Punkstar at top of our list? Is Stemetil what they try secondly these days?
They give me domperidone (lol, someone on an earlier thread called it 'the champagne drug' [girn] )
I can't wait to hear from Petitlapin hopefully feeling much better.
Sasseh I've been posting calling you Sasha expressing my concern, typical of me - glad you are now at home and eating. So agree with others' excellent advice - I hope the nasty side effects wear off, but if not, or if the puking gets bad again, don't hesitate to ask for something stronger. You can get it over the counter in the chemists for travel sickness, so I suppose it's not very strong orally. About headaches, are they migraine type ones? I suffered dreadfully from those for the first four months, and heard they were hormonal, though it's so confusing if you get dehydration ones too and I mixed them up.
Lottie Those sound like horrific side effects!
Kali How did the presentation go?
Dotty How are you, regarding wooziness? In bed, or functioning a bit? as Kali says that makes all the difference about whether it's bearable to be so woozy.
mrsb87 I do hope your brother is better now?
SomeSunny Don't worry, this thread moves so quickly, and it's horrible scrolling down screens when feeling sick.
livingzuid Sympathies, that inability to sleep, the peeing and heartburn, the discomfort - not nice at all, and if you feel sick too...
Apologies to anyone cross posted with or rudely overlooked.
I hope no more admissions?
xx

That bit about 'domperidone* isn't finished - sorry, I meant 'they've given me domperidon for sickness with the migraines'. I do find it makes the heartburn worse, though.
xx

Living The amount of effort involved in turning over in bed is ridiculous! It is either need the loo or heartburn so have to sit up even more than I already am, have so many pillows propping me up now it ridiculous! I managed a whole 4 hour stretch last night but like you said it doesn't feel like quality sleep. I wake up feeling like I just haven't slept.

I hope you are able to push for the induction, my OH said the other day about me asking for one after my lovely vom/nosebleed incident, but I know they won't consider it as the baby isn't at risk it's just me that's miserable.

Hope you managed to get some sleep and aren't feeling too bad today

DiddyBethGentle pats on offer. Hugs probably not appreciated when feeling as bad as you do! Nothing seems to help that discomfort.
xx

Just checking in to say that I wasn't sick this morning! No retching, gagging, nothing! I felt slightly nauseous when I realised I was hungry but much better than I have been.

The cyclizine is definitely among me feel woozy but I can cope with that.

I managed to eat an uncles bens rice time curry pot for lunch there and two mint matchmakers! That's brilliant for me!

I know it's only one day but I feel great to be having a break from the sickness!

Thanks for the encouragement and support on this thread.

dotty that is great! Well done, hope you feel like a new woman for it.

I'm being sick every time I eat, or drink more than sips. And I'm really panicking abut dehydration. Slightly over 48 hours to go until my flight back to the UK (we're in Africa, and local medical services would be an absolute last resort), so I just need to muddle through until then.

Jealous of those of you whose babies are due soon - feel depressed at the prospect of months of this (although last time it cleared up beautifully at 20 weeks, so fingers crossed).

dottyisnt a break lovely :) hopefully many more less-sick days will come too!

Just dashing on to say SunnYdo ice lollies help at all? Or ice cubes sucked, this sounds bad. Coke, full sugar, left to go flat was a life saver for me.
Great news, Sassa and Dotty.
Meerka How is that long awaited baby?
xx

Lottie Those sound like horrific side effects!

I was pretty miserable when I was on it! It did stop the vomiting mostly, but the nausea was rampant. Hard to know how much of it was the drugs or how much of it was bad weeks of HG.

But I do know my sleeping became more normal, the blurred vision disappeared and the dizziness reduced to what I get now ( associated with low blood pressure) within a few days of stopping it. For me getting Meto was the beginning of the recovery.

our baby is just delightful. he's bonny and healthy and just adorable. The good times have begun =) A tiny bit tired mind you, he likes being fed lots in the night. But compared to being preg, it's almost a breeze.

he's 15 days old now. our older son is brilliant with him

Lottie That's a good thing, my goodness.
Meerka You deserve it. All that worry with that terrible infection of the uterus and ongoing sickness.
Sunny Mother hen is very concerned - how are the sips of liquid helping? I souldn't think there's a chance of kestostix being available where you are, then - but is urine very dark, vision blurred, head aching, skin dry? Was it mrsnec who recommended soda water if coke and ice lollies no good?
xx