Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

2nd August for me! Although I think I'll be a week earlier with the C-section... but haven't had the date for that confirmed yet. God, I hope it is earlier.

Wishing petit, sasseh and dotty good luck too! I'm really pleased that you are finally getting somewhere sasseh.

living I'm so sorry you had such an awful panic attack; I know just how frightening and debilitating they can be. I'm so glad you got your daughter moving with the freezing cold slushie (poor thing!! lol!!) and hope you are starting to feel better now. So hard to relax after a panic attack... that horrid jitteriness and everything. Vile.

Oh living I really feel for you in these last weeks. Please do let the medicos know how fed up you are .... if they will listen. With the health challenges you have to face, it's enormously demanding to just face each next half-day I imagine. I do hope your husband is taking the best of care of you.

< brings a very comfy set of cushions for her and a nice feel-good book>

About ondansetron - a very large study in Feb 13 published in one of the best medical journals going, the new england journal of medicine, found that in a study of 600,000 Danish women, of whom either 3,000 or 10,000 (i couldnt quite work out which due to the way it was written, quite a technical study) took ondansetron, there were no adverse fetal outcomes associated with it.

In absolute truth, they cannot guarentee there are no adverse long term effects of it whereas they are sure of certain other weaker meds. But so far it's been used for significantly over 10 years and none have been noted.

What is also often not taken into account is that there can be significantly bigger known risks to the baby and mother if the nausea and vomitting is -not- brought under control. As with anything it's a balance and you have to do what seems best. The main problem is that very few doctors can weigh up a properly informed decision of the risks and benefits because they simply havent looked very deeply into this particular area. Most of them just don't see many women with this level of sickness. grumbles lucky other women!

Can I recommend soda water for indigestion/heartburn? It's hardly some sort of miracle cure, but it is a bit alkaline and I find it helps a little. I've been drinking it since yesterday and I have found my indigestion/heartburn has decreased a bit since then.

Well I'm just back from the GP who said I was very dehydrated and gave me cyclizine. I think I've read that some others on here have taken it so hopefully it'll help me too.

She was very sympathetic, I'm go glad I got the courage ( from you all) to go!

That's great news, dotty! I'm so glad you were able to go and that she was helpful and sympathetic. I hope the cyclizine works for you. But, if it doesn't, don't be afraid to go back and tell her. There are lots of different medications that you can take safely and I think it's fair to say that most of us have worked our way through a few of them until finding something that worked for us. Well done again!!

OK so due dates so far for new, efficient list in Word.

Livingzuid 8 June
mrsb87 29 September
Oklahoma 28 October but definitely no longer bottom of list.
Sorry about this, Everyone and George I got yours mxied up before by two days, I remember...
Sasha With those levels, surely the Dr will recommend hospitalisation for IV - I think they usually admit at 3+.
Dotty I'm glad you've got some meds, and I hope they start working soon. Do ice cubes, ice lollies help at all for liquids?
Livngzuid You poor thing about that scare, hugs.
xx

Hello,my due date is 4th Oct.
So sorry Living and others having difficult days.Hope tomorrow is a better one.I've found it seems to be a really up and down thing.Not sure if that's normal or not.
Re people taking time off work I've been off work for 14 weeks now and still wouldn't be able to go back.Even though I've only vomited twice a day at the most the extreme nausea and dizziness has ment there's no way I could work..you just have to follow what your body needs and look after yourself.I'm self employed so it's been a total nightmare as we've had to borrow loads of money off my partners dad.But you just have to do what you can...

Lottiedoubtie 12th September

starrynight123 2nd August

ok im sorry to derail and be trivial but ...

... you know your pregnancy's been bad when TWO people look at you with your new baby and say "oh your daughter must be so pleased you can babysit your grandson"

the first time, the nice man in the shop did gently say that he thought I was the mother ....

feck.

Hi all just checking in.

Living that sounds really scary hope you are better soon.

Dotty glad you got somewhere!

Sorry I've not had much time to catch up properly.

Oh meerka I'm shocked at that! I'll be taking my mum with me everywhere when I leave the house so people can clearly tell!

My due date is October 1st. Bit of a relapse today. Was at home resting can't understand why I feel worse doing nothing than I have chasing around all week maybe it's just all caught up with me.

Oh Meerka!!

That's terrible. I'm not sure what to say...

How did you react?

Meerka Hugs, don't take any notice. Illness ages one terribly. You know I was ill after the birth? Well, one of the nurses said after my sister had visited, 'Your sister's quite a lot younger than you, then?' In fact, she's older...You'll soon perk up and look pink and look years younger with a healthy diet again.
I'll get those dates down. I hope Petitlapin is happily delivered!
xx

How did I react? a bit the first time, rueful laughter the second.

Guess it's time to go to the hairdressers at last now its all over and get it dyed. But somehow I suspect this isnt the last time it'll happen!

oh my goodness lucinda ... ouch! it does rub it in a bit doesnt it?

yes ... thinking of petit!

Thank you so much ladies and meerka definitely taking advantage of the books! Can't believe the cheek of the Dutch sometimes, they take direct to an art form. I am sure you do not look at all like a grandma!

dotty so pleased you got medication and sympathy. Fingers crossed they work.

mrsnec I am sure it's the overdoing it. I always relapse for a day or two if I have had a hectic few days before. You power through then it hits you!

Well it's been up and down here today. Dh has been lovely and is pretty much over his man flu. He left work early and has taken tomorrow off to be with me. I think it's just this stupid cold and four sleepless nights on the trot making me feel down. And sick omg the nausea has been so bad today. I have spent most of the day on the sofa sucking on Werthers and drinking ice cold drinks, much to the annoyance of the baby I think!

I have a front facing placenta so I only feel stuff at the side and low down. Rationally I know it depends on her position how much I feel, as if she's mainly around the placenta then I feel bog all but today was not a rational day!

starry the anxiety thing is through the roof right now and this stupid sickness does not make it easier. To have a full blown panic attack and then have to force myself out to a shop was awful. I really feel for you when you get yours, we can only ride them out can't we?

Tomorrow I am seeing both psychiatrist and consultant but a different consultant to my usual as he is in surgery or something. It doesn't help and adds to my anxiousness as I don't want to deal with a stranger. But on the upside, I've crawled to 37 weeks so from now I am going to do all I can to encourage this baby to arrive!

And, I think I am so tired I will doze off soon. The herd of elephants upstairs earlier prevented napping....

Ramble over. Hope everyone is ok.

Hello everyone, hope you are all surviving. Good luck with your appointments today living.

I had a better today yesterday when I felt queasy but overall better and more energetic, so I managed to go into work for a few hours and thought maybe I am not pregnant after all. Then I felt super sick yesterday evening, didn't manage much supper at all, and this morning my temperature is very high. But today is my huge day running this event at work so I've somehow just got to get through it. I've arranged for two of my grad students to arrive early to help and I'm going to brief them on how to manage calmly if I suddenly dash out/keel over!

Good luck today khali with your event. When can you test? I hated waiting to test and dh forbade me from poas until after a missed period

Gaaah just was sick for the first time in months. Thank goodness I had taken my thyroid medication early so it didn't come back. Vomiting with a 37 week huge bump and a horrid cold was not fun! But maybe the increase in nausea and vomiting is a good sign and
she will be on her way soon clutches at straws

I have decided that there is no way of beating this insomnia and if I sleep for 4 hours at 5pm then that's what happens. Some sleep at some point is better than none. The extreme tired I am sure is contributing to the horrible nausea. Bloody neighbours put on Polish hip hop at 7.55 am (I know this to the dot as I take my first round of bipolar medication then) which woke me from my nice doze. Given I'd been up most of the night I am a bit sadface about not being able to sleep any more till this afternoon! I think part of the lack of sleep is because I can't breathe properly which then makes me wake up in a panic. I managed some semi propped up dozing which worked quite well for about 3 hours until we were treated to the Polish dawn chorus

Yep, admitted overnight and been on fluid drip. Given cyclizine iv last night and orally this morning, and managed a plain bit of toast. Hoping for discharge today as dont want to be i over the weekend - bored! Obviously feeling better as otherwise wouldnt be bored...
Off for a scan soon I think.

good luck kali! once today is over you can take it a bit easier ..

living I'd second getting whatever sleep you can, whenever you can. The meltdown after my failed inductions, a good part of it was sleeplessness for too many nights. Can your consultant or psychiatrist give you baby-safe sleeping meds? it really really helps to be able to sleep, both with the nausea and with the head-state.

The one thing is that after it's all over, honestly, the newborn days are (relatively) easy. I mean, not a walk in the park, but compared to an HG preg ? better!

sasseh really glad to hear you're getting the treatment you need. Please don't be in too much of a hurry to get out, good rest and rehydration will help

Just dashing on to say Sassha You poor thing, you must have been n a state with those ketones, I thought it'd be an emergency admission, but I'm glad you're feeling a bit better now. as Meerka says, do take it easy.
Kalidasa All luck for big day, hoping nausea isn't too bad.
Livingzuid Oh, no, being sick with a large bump is so awkward. Well, those who suffer throughout know that so much better than I...
Meerka The ironical thing is that I wasn't badly ill after week fifteen, but what with the blood loss and being very ill after the birth, I looked like a haggard ghost..
xx.

Yep, admitted overnight and been on fluid drip. Given cyclizine iv last night and orally this morning, and managed a plain bit of toast. Hoping for discharge today as dont want to be i over the weekend - bored! Obviously feeling better as otherwise wouldnt be bored...
Off for a scan soon I think.

I have a question about cyclizine and wondered if anyone could help?

I took it for the first time last night and it made me very woozy and spaced out- I also think it made me more rather than less nauseous. Is this normal? I had to go to bed at 8.30!

Should I persevere?

Dotty I had a similar reaction, especially when it was given in the iv. Second IV I refused to take it because it made me worse. It turns out my brother had the same reaction to it when he was having chemo! If it makes you worse ask your gp for something else

dotty yes cyclizine totally knocks me out. To be honest that is mostly how it "works" for me, because acute nausea is more bearable if you are asleep! It's not a lot of good if you are trying to function though. On the other hand, I did find that after taking it for a while it knocked me out less badly, I suppose your body gets used to it. It didn't make me more nauseous, though I did dislike having it as an injection/IV as then I felt even more drugged.

As I am still at the am I/aren't I stage, at the moment I am just taking it last thing at night.