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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 26/04/2014 20:20

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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LucindaE · 08/05/2014 14:15

Punkstar and George I'm amazed at anyone working. Mrsb87 I take off my hat to you on coping with that (bows). Sorry about date muddle, now was it Monkey who was due in December or have I got it wrong? Lottie Don't force yourself to go shopping, no urgency. Good advice to Starry and others from you and Boboosto and Punkstar and elizabethsmum and Everyone. I was horrified about the Losing Control of Bowels Aspect of Birth too. Seems odd it happens as not too clean for baby - I think decades back they used to give women something to empty them before the second stage of labour, seems to have been discontinued, I asked for it in my birth plan but then of course,with that induction that went by the wayside. livinzuid I don't blame you about vacuming.Let him do it. Aren't I horrible?
Is there anyone due after Okla to cheer her up?
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.
xx

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LucindaE · 08/05/2014 14:28

I forgot to add - but though losing control of bowels may be humiliating, well, as others say, what with the Public Puking so often involved in this nice condition, it isn't really as bad as all that.
xx

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livingzuid · 08/05/2014 14:29

I too am so impressed with all these people working. It's enough walking the dog round the block these days! mrsb monkey and punk don't overdo it, it's just a job and work is not as important as your health, ever :) I did too much yesterday just battling through a shop and had DH with me! Also mrsnec with guests, really in awe. I cannot imagine doing that.

Now at laptop so can write properly. starry the mango and pineapple smoothies (sorry not passion fruit) from McDonalds are essentially fruit juice and ice just like in a slushie, so no yogurt which is great for me. It's soooo deliciously cold and not too sweet (I can't handle sweet). I just got myself two to keep me going till DH gets home. I agree with others on the need to get the midwifes to come to you. Could you get your GP to facilitate something? I mean it's not like they can't pick up the phone or email any results through to the hospital - or is joined up working in the NHS too much to hope for? Could your DH advocate for you if you can't face talking? Otherwise, take the walk very easy, plan nice things to do en route and lots of rest stops.

lottie hope you are feeling better today. Thinking of what you said about animals in sympathy, my dog puked up next to me last night. He's not been well either!

okla H&M is good, or ASOS for jeans. Mine are H&M. Online shopping has been my friend!

I found the huge pants in Primark but very disappointed in the nightwear. Found some nice nightgowns in a different store in XXL Blush which open at the front and should be nice and baggy post birth. I too don't get the Primark fascination, particularly when you have such nice clothes ranges at Sainsburys, Tesco and Asda or ASOS types for the same kinds of prices. I really love all the baby stuff I got from Asda, great quality and good value.

Thanks so much for the labour stories. It makes me feel better to know the hg will be at an end, even if the discomfort makes me want to hurl. Could be worse things I guess. As to the action 'down there' DH is under very strict instructions to stay at my head area and not look!

meerka I see my consultant tomorrow so going to discuss it all with him again. I wonder what my options for C Section would be. Limited I imagine! I have a real psychotic paranoia thing about needles and my back + I take heart from all the good birth stories I've heard so I'm hopeful still of her arriving with limited intervention. But ask me this again in a month Grin For once in my life I'm adopting a 'wait and see what happens' situation. No way am I going over 40 weeks though, my psychiatrist is going to intervene if the gynaecologists try and push it beyond that.

To cheer myself up this morning a bit I have ordered some really nice shampoo and conditioner and bought some posh body butter and face wash for hospital when I can actually smell stuff again. Hospital bag is finally coming together and huge pants can accommodate the huuuuuge maternity pads! I was shocked at how large they are! Now, if only someone could wave a wand and remove the nausea and give me a good night's sleep.......

PunkStar · 08/05/2014 14:42

Living
The whole spinal thing was okay...but I did freak at paralysed legs. Limited intervention would be much nicer (if you can use that word regarding childbirth ;-)
Good luck tomorrow, obs appointment tomorrow for me too then HG prof ten days or so....the end is in sight.

I am going pretty insane, bile and blood in the morn, nausea relentless today. My safe cheese is now off limits.... ice cream still good though!!! Also managing very weak green tea with lemon. Huzzah :-)

Meerka · 08/05/2014 15:11

Thank you punk and eveyrone for the nice words about the little mouseling =) He is doing really well, eating well and he's even getting quite a strong neck already which surprises us all. He's ... ok ... at sleeping but this is something that my husband can help with, if Im asleep I can ask him to change the nappy instead. After preg with HG when you can't ask your other half to actualy DO anything to make you feel better, this is wonderful. In fact, everything after HG is wonderful ..... it's mostly gone now. Still get a heck of a lot of saliva in the evenings and feel a bit sick, but compared to what has gone before it's nothing.

I too am in awe of anyone who can work with HG. seriously in awe

Oklahoma · 08/05/2014 17:53

Succumbed to pressure and went mat jeans shopping with mum. Managed ok for a bit and then passed out in mamas & papas. Idiot. I knew I shouldn't have gone!

Meerka I'm sure he is overjoyed at actually being able to do something useful. It must be very hard on OHs not being able to make it better.

Punk that sounds terrible!! Is the blood normal?

Living not long now but I'm sure it's dragging horribly for you.

mampam · 08/05/2014 18:13

Hi all, I posted a couple of weeks ago and you lovely ladies advised me to go to the doctors. GP prescribed Cyclizine. I suppose it has worked in so much as I am not vomiting as many times as I was before and it makes me very drowsy, which I guess being asleep is more favourable than awake and feeling/being sick.

Whilst I'm not being sick as much the nausea is almost unbearable, my mouth is constantly watering and I'm constantly having to spit into my sick bucket (sorry if tmi). Does anyone else get this?

I'm meant to be going back to work after half term at the end of this month, I'm starting to doubt that will happen Sad

Meerka · 08/05/2014 18:22

mampan the insane saliva and the horrible taste in the mouth and most of all the nausea is really typical :( most of us reckon the nausea is actually worse than the vomitting.

Buccastem, Stemetil and Avomine are all slightly stronger meds that have been used for many years and are considered safe, maybe you could ask for one of them from the doctor? Also cyclizine does make some people sleepy, one of the others might be better.

Please do consider asking for time off work. severe morning sickness / HG (and the saliva thing is a trademark of HG) is worsened by exertion. Rest, rest, rest helps

mampam · 08/05/2014 18:38

Thanks Meerka

Yes the vile taste. I'm not sure I can deal with much more of this. I guess I must be coping slightly better as I haven't cried for a few days to my poor DH the old "I can't do this anymore" feeling sorry for myself cry.

GP didn't give me Avomine as apparently I'd tried it during my last pg and it didn't work.

Have got my dating scan tomorrow and am dreading it as we live over an hour away from the hospital, being cooped up in the car then traipsing around a hospital when I feel like shif is not appealing to me, mind you neither is having to make myself look presentable!

How often does everyone wee in a day?

starrynight123 · 08/05/2014 19:07

You guys are really the best - what would I do without you all?!?!

I've decided to cancel my appointment with the mw tomorrow. I woke up in the middle of the night having a panic attack and decided there and then that it just wasn't worth that level of stress and panic for a 10-min appointment where someone would take my blood-pressure, test my urine and... that's it!!!! Especially when my blood-pressure was checked on Tuesday and my GP tested my urine about 3wks ago.

God, so awful!! Still feel nervous even though I know I'm not going!! I just hope they agree to post me my MATB1 form...

living - complete empathy with your anxiety attack too - I really hope you are feeling better now. I find it takes me some time to wind down from them. Do you know what triggered it?

elizabethsmum so kind of you to let me know that Fridays tend to be quiet in antenatal clinics - valuable advice!!

Booboo yup, am in London and I love the lateral thinking about the rickshaw - genius idea!!

PunkStar · 08/05/2014 19:36

Starry
Excellent idea... I used to feel I was wasting time especially if I'd just had a hospital visit so I think you've done the right thing :-)
How many weeks are you now??

Okla it is grim, although I don't feel worried. I'm sure it's from my oesophagus from so much heaving then vomiting. I am on stuff to help. It's just a bit crappy. The closer I get the harder it feels to cope with the ever slowing passage of time.

MamPam
Meerka is right, the nausea can be a bit soul destroying. Plenty of things to try or combos. Work better for some than others. Only steroids reduced my nausea enough for food to pass my lips, even now it's restricted :-(

Popalina · 08/05/2014 19:41

The nausea was way harder to cope with for me than being sick and I said 'I can't do this anymore' to DH a few times in both HG pregnancies!

Weeing -I was about twice a day I seem to remember. Three tops. At one point all I managed was a few RWhites lemonade lollies a day. Keeping hydrated is sooo hard.

Works sucks with HG.

PunkStar · 08/05/2014 20:34

Ah yeah, at times I was weeing twice a day too, generally just wetting mouth at that point or re swallow a water only vomit. Phew, those days have passed me though!!!

I still wail that I can't do this anymore!!! Just want to hold up a bit better this month as I've tried to plan a few nice things with friends.

elizabethsmum · 08/05/2014 20:36

Not sure if anyone knew anything about international hyperemesis awareness day next week (15th may)- found some info on the pregnancy sickness support site- a photo collage is being made of photos submitted
Relating to your personal experiences of hg- considering submitting one of my toilet bowl/bathroom floor Wink aim to raise awareness of isolation, feeling of lack of understanding I think we have all felt and discuss on here on a daily basis.
I am useless at links but lucindae aka mother hen hasa link to the site above x

elizabethsmum · 08/05/2014 20:42

My mistake - photos are for a hyperemesis awareness video. They are also doing the big brew ( a coffee morning event which I find slightly odd as it would turn the stomach of many current sufferers to say the least!!) Anyway info on the get involved section of tge site!

mrsnec · 09/05/2014 05:54

Hi everyone,
Yes I too am in awe of those working. I coped with the guests ok. It was just lucky I had puke free days apart from. Had all the taps running in the bathroom to cover the noise. I had to take him shopping one day too and I found that an effort. At least I only had to cook once. And I've no idea how I managed that!

The bowel control thing is a worry to me. My niece was determined it wasn't going to happen to her but as a result ended up giving birth on the hospital toilet floor! If I was in the UK I would consider a waterbirth but then I don't like the idea of the mw fishing it out! Yes in a way I think they should still clear you out first.

Weeing- just twice a day here. Still struggling with fluids. That smoothie sounds appealing though.

Sorry to everyone who is suffering from anxiety and panic attacks at the moment.

No news here really. My mum sent me a big bundle of maternity clothes yesterday. Her friends daughter was about to give them to charity. They're not all to my taste but I'm greatful to have more options and to not have to go shopping!

Not that we have primark here but that's one place I couldn't face feeling like this!

Will take another look at the website. Yes a coffee morning sounds like an odd choice.the raising awareness is the most important aspect of it though.I used to love the stuff and I've gone right off it. Somebody was telling me the other day they never got their taste back for it!

Sorry for skim reading and if I missed anything.

PunkStar · 09/05/2014 06:09

I never think about Primark. I love ASOS. I over order then send loads back though ;-)

I can't stand coffee at the best of times but I am a famous tea drinker. In fact my MIL says 'when you enjoy a cup of tea again we'll know you are better!' True words so far.

Will have a look at PSS, thanks Elizabethsmum

livingzuid · 09/05/2014 07:08

Good luck today punk! We got first appointment of the day so waiting now. Having a chocolate milk hoping that wakes the baby up she always us asleep when my consultant scans her Grin bit of a palava trying to get blood tests earlier but dh sorted it eventually. I always find it stressful when that happens.

livingzuid · 09/05/2014 07:08

Is asleep doh

PunkStar · 09/05/2014 07:50

Good luck to you too Living, just taking TLB to nursery then on way!!!! GIVE ME THE DATE!!!!!

kalidasa · 09/05/2014 08:52

For those worrying about their dignity in labour - it is a normal part of earlier labour to go to the loo a lot, often rather loose, so the body does naturally "clear you out", I remember this happening to me when I was about 3 cm dilated maybe? I think for most women there's not a lot left by the pushing phase.

Can I ask for a bit of handholding please? I am about 2 or 3 dpo of my first cycle without my coil. And I am SO nauseous today! I really really hope this is just because I have a sore throat and am generally a bit under the weather because I really need to make it through to an event I am running at the end of next week. I am as prepared as possible for HG but I was anticipating it to strike properly in week 4 at the earliest. DH was feeling queasy yesterday too so fingers crossed this is a false alarm and just a bug. I was always nauseous from about 48 hours after ovulation (one successful pregnancy, two very early losses) but I don't remember that it was this bad.

I thought if I actually posted about this instead of just obsessing to myself I am bound not to be pregnant this month at all and will feel really silly in a few days time! TTC is such an odd time as it is, without feeling that I'm constantly looking straight down the barrel of a gun, waiting for it to go off and ruin my life for the next year!

kalidasa · 09/05/2014 08:55

On the positive side, DS is 17 months and it is SUCH a lovely age. I found his first year tough, I had bad PND and it took me a long time to recover fully from the pregnancy - I think it's important to be honest about this because HG does increase the risk of PND and difficulties with bonding. And to be honest I think I just don't find tiny babies that enthralling. But he is so wonderful now. We are bringing him up bilingually (my husband is French) and it is amazing to watch him understanding and beginning to speak in both languages as if it were the most natural thing in the world! I am dreading the 12 months of pregnancy + immediate postpartum BUT it would be fantastic to watch another little one going through this toddler stage.

starrynight123 · 09/05/2014 10:34

Appointment cancelled. Heart pounding with anxiety now because worried about not getting the MATB1 form!! Argh!! Have e-mailed midwife team about how to get one if I can't go into the hospital... plus, I will now have a different due date because I will be having a caesarean, and I'll only get the date at my next consultant appointment in June. What a complete kerfuffle!

How has anyone else dealt with this?? Has anyone ever got their MATB1 form through the post??

Lottiedoubtie · 09/05/2014 11:25

Crap! starry I'm in the same boat, I did go to my MW appointment just now, but reading your post I realise I forgot to ask for my mat B1 form... I'll have to ring them after work later.

Oklahoma · 09/05/2014 11:30

What is a matb1 form?