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pain with bleeding - always a bad sign ?

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wheelybug · 26/07/2006 18:25

Am 7 weeks tomorrow - yesterday had brown discharge which turned reddish in the evening. Nothing overnight - went to gp this morning and have scan booked for friday. Was remaining positive as had no pain but this afternoon I have started to get some pain.

Am assuming the worst but just wondered if anyone had any experience that could give me a glimmer of hope or should I prepare for the inevitable ?

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shhhh · 26/07/2006 18:35

I mc x2. 1st was a missed mc and 2nd was around 7 weeks. Both times I never experienced pain (until I received medical help).

Pain isn't always as bad thing BUT they do say to see your epu if you have pain and bleeding.
Can't you go to the epu instead of waiting till fri..? May out your mind at ease...

Thinking of you xx

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wheelybug · 26/07/2006 18:39

thanks shh - the scan is at the epu but they said they wouldn't be able to see anything yet (i.e no heartbeat) so to wait tll friday. This was when I didn't have any pain though. The doc said to go to A&e if pain or bleeding was severe. At the moment - the bleeding is not as much as a period although getting heavier I think and the pain is manageable - just depressing !

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MrsJohnCusack · 26/07/2006 18:44

hmm. I had some pain with my bleeding (had scan, still pregnant) , but then you can associate normal pregnancy aches and pain with as a bad thing with bleeding when you wouldn't ordinarily if you see what I mean. my bleeding was quite a lot but not as heavy as a period.

it's horrible waiting though. At my EPU they have picked up a heartbeat at 6 wks 6 days in both pregnancies so you could try to persuade them to see you tomorrow.

I hope it all works out for you

juuule · 26/07/2006 18:45

Think only the scan will be able to tell.
I have had m/cs with pain and without pain.
I have also bled and had pain and carried to term.
Agree that it is horribly depressing
Hope a scan gives you good news.

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wheelybug · 26/07/2006 18:47

thanks mrsJC and Juuule.

Its def more than normal preg aches - like period pain. Guess I will see how things are overnight and then see tomorrow. I feel like I want a hot water bottle but its too damn hot !

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julezboo · 27/07/2006 11:58

WB - I just wanted to add my experience, I have had 5 losses. The pain I had with all of them was like mild contractions which was always there and didnt go away with rest.

With this pregnancy however I had a massive bleed just before 6 weeks, i assumed the worst but never had no bad other than the usual very mild cramps. I had a scan at 6+0 and it showed baby and heartbeat! So bleeding doesnt alway mean mc. I have bled twice since then, once with pain, just had my 10 weeks scan today and all is ok )

Best of luck hunny, try giving your epu a ring back Im almost certain at 7 weeks they would see a heartbeat x x
(((((((((hugs)))))))

shhhh · 27/07/2006 12:09

I agree, we were scanned at 6 weeks with dd and a heartbeat was v visable...

Good luck. xx

Piffle · 27/07/2006 12:16

Wheely where is your pain?
Like bad period pain or one sided pain?
My only experience of bleeding in pregnancy has been negative
One ectopic, 2 miscarriages at 6 and 9 weeks plus two chemicals.
But I do know lots of people on here who have bleeding and been fine

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wheelybug · 27/07/2006 13:40

Hi All

Pain was worse over night (bad period pain definitely Piffle) but had tailed off now with clots being passed and possibly more (although not entirely sure what I am looking for).

I phoned the epu this morning and my description obviously made them think the worst and they said there wasn't much point coming in today and to go in tomorrow when I should have passed everything.

Pretty sad although I think I felt worse yesterday when I realised hope was probably fading. I think I have begun to accept the inevitable now.

Thanks for your posts - I'll let you know for sure tomorrow.

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Piffle · 27/07/2006 13:42

Wheely am gutted for you
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shhhh · 27/07/2006 16:21

. It makes me sad though at the epu's comments

"there wasn't much point coming in today and to go in tomorrow when I should have passed everything." .

I remember when I experienced our mc's it was as thought they were so used to mc's that they became immune to peoples feelings...
I know they have a job to do and can't get emotionally attached but it's all so "standard procedure"..

Thinking of you and sending you love and hugs. xxx

caitlinsmummy · 27/07/2006 16:40

HI all. I am new on this thread. I have had 2 MC'S 2 years ago. I also have a 5 year old daughter from previous relationship. I am currently verging on 8 weeks pregnant. Have had spotting occasionally, but 2 weeks ago got heartbeat, however this morning I went to toilet and wiped and browny which turned to red, but when I went bk 5 mins later there was nothing. I called hospital and they have booked me in for a scan tomorrow morning at 8.30am. Was supposed to be having another this thursday anyway to check everything, bot now it's tomorrow, and I know exactly where some of you are coming from about certain midwives. I called today and her response was " I'm not being unkind, but if you are going to miscarry a scan won't help" It's so insensitive. I am dreading going for scan tomorrow and am praying like mad te baby will be ok, if anyone has any advice I would be so gratefulxx

ChiTownLady · 27/07/2006 16:47

Caitlismummy didnt want this post to go unanswered - I'm afraid the epu is right and the best thng you can do is wait it out until tomorrow. try and get some rest - if you have any pain then perhaps try a hot water bottle...
I had a m/c last week and although had very slight bleeding on sat am nothing more than a wipe really...and nothing more then mon lunchtime it all unfortunately kicked in.

there are also many many tales on here of bleeding with very sucessful pg..so you just need to wait it out a little - clearly if bleding gets worse or you are in a lot of pian I would go to A&E or EPU directly.
Sorry you are going through this and fingers crossed for you

ComeOVeneer · 27/07/2006 16:54

Sympathises to you all, I had a miscarriage a few weeks ago (but didin't even know I was pregnant until it happened). (Sorry to hear your bad news ChiTownLady). Fingers crossed for you too Caitlinsmummy for tomorrow.

caitlinsmummy · 27/07/2006 16:55

Thankyou chitownlady for answering, sorry you had a miscarriage. Was it your first? I so hope I am ok, not got any pain, no more than usual, scared stiff every time i go to toilet, so you had it whn you wiped? Did t go away like mine too? Mines was just 1 time xx

caitlinsmummy · 27/07/2006 16:56

Thankyou comeoveneer, much appreciated, will let you all no. xx

shhhh · 27/07/2006 17:02

caitlinsmummy, i'm praying all goes well for you as well.
I must admit with the 2nd mc I did start bleeding and like ctl said nothing kicked in totally until the next day (approx) but I agree with the point on epu. I remember it being a sunday and I frantically seared for someone to scan me..I even offered to go privatly. But the epu said the same as they said to you. imo very insensitive but I suppose they have to be...sadly..

All I would advise is to rest 100%. Baby may be fine and I pray that all is well. You need to do your best to relax and try and chill as much as you can.

DH & I came to the understanding that to get pregnant and to stay pregnant I am the type of person who needs wrapping in cotton wool from start to finish. I am so very lucky to have a dh who thinks so much of me and does all he can to help me esp when pregnant. With dd he wouldn't let me do a thing and now i'm 13weeks he's the same. Yeah sure I can't relax 100% with dd (now 14 months) and I do sneak the odd bit of housework in BUT he is always on my case (in a loving way..!)to sit down and to relax. I think that those of us who are prone to mc need to follow the same plan, xxx

caitlinsmummy · 27/07/2006 17:20

Thanks sshh. I hope i am fine too. I only bled with first mc, 2nd one was a missed mc.I found out at 12 week scan that the baby had died at 7 1/2 to 8 weeks, what i am now. I will be devastated if anything goes wrong now. I couldnt take it. I am praying that the baby is fine,everything crossed, my dd age 5 would b devastated also and my partner of 4 years xx

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wheelybug · 27/07/2006 19:32

sorry to hear you're going through this too caitlinsmummy - its cr&p isn't it ? Good luck for tomorrow - I hope you get good news.

Shhh - I know what you mean about EPU but I didn't take it unkindly - I may have paraphrased it a bit much. TBH - at this stage I'd prefer no nonsense matter of factness otherwise I'll just cry !!

Good luck with your pregnancy shhh and milk your dh's kindness whilst you can !

Whilst this will be my first miscarriage, my dd had IUGR so quite a stressful pregnancy all through the second half - at least I'll have something to worry about for the first half now if we summon up the courage to try again

Will be back on tomorrow to update.

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caitlinsmummy · 27/07/2006 19:58

Thanks wheelybug, I really hope you get good news, really do, and me...so scary. I wont sleep tonight, dunno bout u. Would b so unfair if this happened for a 3rd time. I will be so happy if im ok, and devaststed if im not xx

Tutter · 27/07/2006 20:09

wheelybug - so sorry you're going through this. like piffle i had 1 ectopic and 2 mcs before going on to have ds. i'm a little concerned about the pain you describe as i too only had pain with the ep, but the clots are probably a good indication (sorry to use the word good, but it's better than an ep) of a mc.

take care of yourself xxx

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wheelybug · 28/07/2006 11:32

Hi All

Here to update - unforetunately not good news. No evidence of anything going on.

EPU were great though - sympathetic but to the point, just the right tone for me. It came as no surprise so was actually able to ask all the questions I wanted to without losing the plot. DH was more shocked - he'd remained optimistic (which is most unlike him, so I knew there must be a problem).

Trying to look on the positives - it looks like I won't need surgery, we have had a few friends lately with missed miscarriages/ having news of severe problems at scans etc so I guess we have the best of a very bad situation if that makes sense. Also, I was worried that it would be obvious what I was passing but it hasn't been and won't be so that is something I won't have to deal with.

Thanks for all your help on this thread - its helped particularly as hardly anyone in RL knows what is going on.

Caitlinsmummy - I truly hope you have better news today.

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trace2 · 28/07/2006 13:13

so sorry wheelybug i was on the march thread with you until i lost, i feel for you, i hope you get through this sooner rather than later (hugs )

caitlinsmummy · 28/07/2006 13:38

Wheelybug i am so so sorry, my scan was good news. baby fine and just under 9 weeks, instead of what i thought, 8. I am here if you need to talk xx

shhhh · 28/07/2006 14:31

wb so sorry to hear the bad news. You are right though in the fact that this type of mc is easier (wrong word I know but hope you kwim) on your body and mentally.

Our 1st mc was a missed one and the wait for treatment was so hard to deal with. I had to live with this news for 2 days before I was admitted . Also I to hated the fact of waht I would see and that scared me. BUT the 2nd one which happened naturally didn't have me worrying about treatment etc. I think it was also easier as I knew what to expect from the 1st one.

Sending hugs your way and I hope you do decide to try again. My outlook was "pick yourself up, dust yourself down and start all over again".I'm also here if you need a chat. xxx

CM, congrats and I hope things continue to go well. xx

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