Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Jen, so pleased you only have a couple of weeks left of school. Then rest rest rest! :-)

Meerka, how you doing? Better I hope xx

Chaffinch, well done working and being so organised xx

I had a lazy day, not like I could do anything if I tried. Just making plans for decorating the new house and bought some new maternity clothes from simply be. I know I don't have long left and really shouldn't have bothered but my current pairs of mat jeans are getting way to tight around the bump and hurt to wear. I figured I can wear them for a while after, until I lose the weight and nobody else will really know. Also got some new leggings and tunic for wearing after the birth incase I'm real sore down below.
The only thing I'm yet to purchase is a nursing bra. I just can't stand straps right now so been wearing the stretchy bandeau bras which are so comfy. Hoping these will still be ok to wear for breast feeding as I literally can't do straps anymore.

Brother has just bought the cot so nothing left on my list. Feels strange to not have anything left do do for out boys arrival.

How's everybody else's preparations going?

Xxx

good morning :) well, yes, much better than last monday thanks. That was not a nice reminder of how bad it can be. So it's a big relief to be much better. Managed to take son to school today for first time since the HG started, so it was a really nice Monday morning :) unwell after hehe but just to be able to go with him was a treat for us all.

You sound so prepared! :) really nice to have it all organised, and vital when you have the move in a few days. Does the house need a lot of decorating or is it not too bad?

Glad your a bit better meerka :-)

It's ok to live in if cleaned and most people wouldn't bother to decorate it at all as the decor is ok. However, every mark or scratch on the walls will bug me no end so the whole house will get a lick of paint before we move in. Well that's my plan anyway. It has wooden floors but I'm a carpet fan, so want my new carpets done too.
I know I'm expecting miracles!

Just been to see the consultant, booked into see the anaesthetist and for another scan due to baby measuring big. I'm hoping for a vaginal birth but they are worried ill need a c section after all. But if all is ok I'm being induced at 39 weeks. Blood pressure still high but no protien in urine so all is good. May need medication to lower bp at next visit though.
Roll on jan and get this baby out is I can say!!

I'm really miserable, my morning sickness is getting worse and today I was sick at work (in school as I'm a teacher!) I was sent home! My sickness is all day and getting more severe, I could stomach food last week up until yesterday but now I'm actually gagging and being sick I don't want to eat anything! I'm terrified this is going to last a long time and I'm really struggling to teach at the same time, I dunno how I'm going to cope if it doesn't improve, not helped by the fact I'm a worrier and have already had 2 weeks off this term having my appendix out! My husband is going away too, I can't cook without gagging! Dunno what to do with myself!

Howly You poor thing, I don't know if you saw my message below, I had this idea that you were Holly because the name is so like, so I didn't welcome you properly, sorry, that's awful. You poor thing, it must have been bad for them to send you home, are you on meds? You need to be. How are liquids staying down? Have you got those famous kesostix to check for dehydration levels?
Butterfly How did the visit to GP go?
Sally Mother hen knows a good bra for a heavy bosomed woman should take the weight not on the straps, a common fault if they're an ordinary bra just made bigger in the cup, but below, so that it would support even without straps and you don't have the staps too tight. Otherwise, it's a recipe for shoulder ache and even headaches from the neck. You lucky thing about those wooden floors, but it's a matter of taste. You've even got the cot, my goodness how organised. I borrowed a rocking crib with drapes from BIL and only got a cot later on. The baby insisted on being in the bed, anyway.
Meerka Great links for Butterfly. So glad you were able to do that trip.
Back soon.
xx

Hi Lucinda I don't know what to do, this is the first day I was sick, it's not just the sickness, I'm dizzy and exhausted! I was doing ok, as long as I kept my stomach full I would feel ok, today nothing helps, feel sick on an empty stomach and feel sick after eating! Horrible taste in my mouth all the time!
I will book to go to the doctors tomorrow, not been so far so no meds.
work sent me home because I'm a mess!
I feel like I'm over exaggerating especially after my dad informed me yesterday that 'I'm pregnant, not ill)!

howly if you're like that and if you have the dreadful taste in your mouth, its probably the full HG :(

You do need the docs. I will copy paste what I wrote to butterfly. I do hope you can get treatment -now- rather than later because it's supposed to really be more effective in staving off the worst. If you get bad, it's hard to get better but if you start the meds early, it stops you going that far down, at least for most people.

to quote again:

when you go to the doc's, arm youreslf with info. At least then you will know what's what, because quite a lot of doctors still don't.

The two really useful sites are the NICE site - all doctors are supposed to follow the guidelines and the Pregnancy Sickness support site. it's excellent.

The first link is here cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy

and the Preg Sickness Support site is here www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/

best of luck, everyone with serious sickness needs good support and treatment

Thank you

Howly No insult to your father, but he's confusing Hyperemesis with normal MS; most people do, even a number of doctors seem to. I can't better what Meerka says. Also, the worst danger is dehydration so do invest in some kesostix from a chemist to test your urine. I hope the GP gives meds, the earlier this is treated the better the chances of treating it effectively before you go into a spiral of vomting-dehydration-hospital -for-IV meds and fluids which is so awful.
xx

howly if you get to the really annoyed stage with well-meaning but unaware people, this page on the site on Lucinda's post has some lovely woman-at-the-end-of-her-tether comments.

sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/what-to-say-when

perfect for the people who say 'oh I'm sure you'll feel better soon', 'It'll all be worth it' and 'have you tried ginger? ' etc

'pops in' the taste is the worst. Nothing gets rid of it. I feel like it comes out of every pore in my mouth.

Made schoolgirl error of eating a whole of the big round snackajacks. Sorry to all the new folk here :(

'back to sofa reclining apretending to ignore severe nausea'

Meerka thank you for the links :)

Lucinda I couldn't get app with doc I did however bump in to my consultant today whilst waiting for a scan I briefly told her how I was feeling she said to not eat any big meals but just what I could manage blah blah blah she was going to test my wee to see if I was dehydrated but must have forgotten she was only passing by so didn't have lots of time to ask her things. She didn't mention meds or anything and now because of that I'm scared to go to the docs and get something maybe with my mc history she would rather I didn't take anything. I have vomited today but managed to keep down a biscuit some s&v crisps and toast which is better than the last few days I still feel dreadful though and can feel a sick episode coming shortly I've just lay on the couch most of the day, dreading work tomorrow I've been off on a weeks hol so don't know how I'll manage.

butterfly it might not have been possible for the consultant to realise how bad it is from a quick conversation.

Do think you need to see the doctor and hope he or she knows of HG.

Butterfly I so agree with Meerka again, don't let that put you off seeing a doctor asap. Plus my own bossy comment, do get those kesostix from a chemists so you can check your own urine, it's really easy. The dr's won't prescribe anything that could induce miscarriage or be harmful to the baby, and you do need medical help.
Livingzuid Poor you. Oh dear.
xx

Meerka you might be right I'll either go to the docs then ring consultant to check if they prescribe something or just ring consultant and explain how ill I feel and see what she says.

Sorry Lucinda cross posts I will get some stick tomorrow from the chemist and check I'm bound to be dehydrated all I've had to drink today is about half a pint of robinsons orange maybe a little more. When I've been sick tonight all I'm bringing up is this white frothy stuff (sorry if tmi) I think I've even ran out of bile haha.

Hello everyone I'm so glad to see this thread is still running - thank you Lucinda ! I was here three years ago when pregnant with dd and am now just 6 weeks and feeling terrible. I just feel constantly as if I'm about to be sick and only manage not to by clenching my teeth together. Quite frequently during the day I retch but nothing comes up. It was the same last time, I used to throw up only once a day or sometimes every other day but constantly felt on the verge of it.

It's so depressing and I have already cried several times in the last 2 weeks since i started feeling sick, wondering how the hell I am going to get through the next 34 weeks, while at the same time being desperate to keep this baby as I have MC twice before. I am hanging on to the fact that I survived this once before but my god it's hard. It's so relentless. Every minute of every day feeling sick and people who haven't had it can't imagine it. Thank you all for being here and I hope everyone has a good, non-vomiting night. I'm off to bed now as the only time I don't feel sick is when I am asleep...! Better eat something first though even though it's the last thing I feel like doing. Bleurgh.

It is relentless guys, but I felt 5% etter at week 14, another 5% better at week 16 and about 25% better at week 18
now Im week 23 and managing on 2 ondansers a day; as long as I eat regularish I can even hang on for later meals, like my work do, it was fine. the winter root veg soup was FAB.

am properly craving hot chocolate now; Im obvs so calcium deficient, it's been yogurt and now hot choc mmmmmmmm

Hugs to you all; it is the hardest thing in the world to manage as eating and food come into so many spheres of life, you feel like you lose so much joy, but as Lucinda says - this too shall pass

I found it depressing with my ds2 as it was such a shock, but this time I have been more accepting and less anxious, you have to be open to educate others and spread the word - I even lectured my consultant about his lack of knowledge

demand more, I went back to the gp again and again for drugs that worked, and dialled 111 for out of hours nhs support - the emergency locum sent me to hosp and it was amazing to be hydrated and get some rest. And he was the most utterly handsome beautiful man you'd ever see in real life, and I puked in front of him 3 times into a bowl. ahhhh the HG memories dreamy face

Hi all! Hello to new faces!

Slice- I shudder when I remember being at the start do it. This is my second DC too and I didn't vomit quite as much this time so it might be better for you too.

How is everyone? Can't believe Sally and Jen are getting so close to the end!

Living - so agree with the taste. I only feel sick now when I bend down to pick out my horses feet or rush somewhere but that awful taste is 24/7 and not abating at all. I am ironically finding now that my weight gain is too much because I constantly eat to get rid of the taste.

Finding the tiredness hard now with little 18 month old running about. I am 23 weeks! eek!

Hey Totes! I don't feel close to the end - ten weeks feels like a very long time to go! I am managing ok, despite a manic day yesterday in work. Totally shattered and starting to feel somewhat akin to a lumbering elephant. Achy and uncomfortable, and my nipples are itchy and dry already - had to get cream for them. All in all, thoroughly discouraged by the whole experience.

SliceofLIme Welcome back. Sorry you are suffering again, very brave of anyone to risk going through this again. Three years already - I wonder if you have changed your name, as I would have thought I'd remember 'lime' because of my interest in the history of scurvy? You poor thing, hugs, that nausea is terrible, and retching unproductively. Are you on meds yet? You are the veteran, but how are the liquids staying down?
Howly and Butterfly Livingzuid How are things today? Re; bracing remarks, I was thinking that in fact, few men could handle ordinary MS, let alone Hyperemesis...
Jen I am sure you don't look at all like an elephant - I'm sure you look lovely.
Chaffinch Lol about lecturing consultant, good, and must have been about the puking three times into a bowl while this man watched. Was he the locum?
Totes So glad that the sickness has gone off so much. You have a horse, lucky you?
Sally How are things today? Livingzuid Meerka Hugs.
Holly Thursday Only1Scoop and Everyone I hope managing, not in hospital...
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.
xx

Awful today. First time I was sick in a week. Made it to work at 11 and not sure how long I will last but I have to go and get a repeat of my sickness tablets from pharmacy anyway. I was feeling worried about having no work in January as my last day is next Friday but now feeling relieved again that I don't have to struggle to work! Will try and reply properly soon.

Oh and NT results due today. Told DH he had to ask about it as I can't face it. I'm a coward.

Sick and wretching as soon as I sat up In bed this morning, managed to stomach porridge but it tasted disgusting and back to wretchinh again!

I went to the doctors this morning, he signed me off for 7 days and prescribed me 'phenergan' promethazine hydrochloride and told me to only take them when things get really bad!! I don't know what that even means as I'm feeling pretty rough as it is!!

Feel guilty about work but its better for the children if they have a teacher that is 100% not one that is grumpy and trying not to be sick!

Am feeling ok at the moment, managed to eat a slice of toast and an ice lolly but I can feel myself sliding again, my head hurts first then I feel dizzy then comes the nausea again, I get a 10-15 minute respite every few hours!

Hope everyone is managing to get through the morning and then the day! On the upside whilst at the doctors I picked up my pregnancy pack so will have a read and be excited about my little bean!

Horse isn't getting the attention he is used to at the moment but not much I can do!

Jen - 10 weeks assuming you are not early. It could be less! I think I went on mat leave 6 weeks before my due date and remember snoozing every afternoon so was obviously pretty tired. And rolling out of bed and not being able to get my socks on! Mind you, I was also painting and decorating! My only consolation to you will be that while everyone else struggles with tiredness and a newborn, it will be bliss for you in comparison to what has gone on before!

Lucinda....and all the lovely ladies I just wanted to thank you for all the support you have given on this thread.
We have had some sad news .... following the MW not able to confirm a heartbeat and subsequently a scan which confirmed our baby stopped growing at around 16wks.
I had convinced myself that all was positive because my symptoms are still so rife.
Sorry to report sad news but wouldn't dissapear without a goodbye. It's the support....info and ....humour which helped me battle through.
I wish you all luck and take care of each other.
Annabelle x