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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 02/12/2013 14:35

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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jenpatnim · 04/12/2013 13:28

Doctors seem to be seriously hit and miss with this thing! I have read so many outrageous stories here of doctors refusing to prescribe meds, and other stories of doctors being great! I don't know - it seems to be utterly arbitrary.

Hollyjokes · 04/12/2013 13:33

Exactly - I'm sure that dehydration and lack of nutrition is much worse for the baby than some perfectly safe medicine!

Since I last posted I've had a phone call from the surgery and been told that the doctor is now willing to give me a small amount of promethazine to tide me over till my hospital appointment. Why couldn't he have just done this this morning instead of leaving me crying all day?! Moron!

ChaffinchOfDoom · 04/12/2013 13:51

holy smeg what a douche bag.

it was when I was in hosp this time that a pharmacist lied to my face saying ondansatron was not available in tablet form in the UK. I text my friend who's a pharmacist and knew it was!

they make shit up. maybe pass the doc Lucinds'a links!

Hollyjokes · 04/12/2013 14:16

Are ondansatron and promethazine the same thing?

I may print out the info from those links and send them recorded delivery to my GP

Meerka · 04/12/2013 14:21

oh for heavens sake holly im so sorry to hear that.

Can you ring the SOS helpline? the doctor there is retired but really good and specialised in HG. He has a list of HG friendly doctors. the number is 024 7638 2020. this is the site: www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/

you are absolutely right, early treatment is the best. And cyclizine is absolutley fine. the NICE guidelines which ALL doctors are supposed to follow as best practise guidelines say so clearly. cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

If you look on the NICE site they have clear goals to ensure that people can keep going: cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!goals and early treatment is very important.

Banging the doctor over the head probably won't work but do try ringing the helpline number above - as I say, they are excellent. You'll have to leave a message and they will ring you back.

livingzuid · 04/12/2013 15:23

Or just get down to A&E and make a fuss. There is a reason why it's always so busy, because GPs don't do what they are meant to! I got my tablets off my gp here (different country tho but still). So sorry you haven't got it resolved yet.

livingzuid · 04/12/2013 15:24

Or change gp surgeries is that possible?

ChaffinchOfDoom · 04/12/2013 16:09

nope, promethazine is Phenergan, for anti vomming, a sedative and anti allergy

ondansatron can only be prescribed in hospital, I couldn't get it from my gp, my consultant had to OK it. it's for anti vomming after chemo/radiotherapy primarily.

ChaffinchOfDoom · 04/12/2013 16:12

ondansetron is the correct sp I write it differently every time I type it. my excuse is the 'a' has disappeared off my keyboard

ChaffinchOfDoom · 04/12/2013 16:15

you cant drink alcohol with phernergan........you can with ondans though! result! well a tiny bit of baileys in a hot chocolate anyhoo at your work xmas do, for example....

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LucindaE · 04/12/2013 17:03

Hollyjokes I thought a new person called Howdy was on here, but I think that was you, lol. I so agree with others and Meerka who's done such a good job in providing those links - the SOS one can help you get effective treatment. The GP doesn't seem to appreciate how important early treatment is, as you say. How is the dehydration at the moment?
I know how conscientuos teachers are , Jen and others are the same.
with luck you won't feel anything like as bad as this later on, the first tri being the worst for almost everyone. Did it let up at all last time?
Jen Poor you, a mean principal! You are so good about struggling in, too, which you think she might have noticed.
Scheriuosly Poor you, milk can be foul on the way up again. You are so right about you and the baby have to come first. Work will somehow manage.
Chaffinch Totes Murder of Goths SicknSpan Eggy and
Sally and Everyone I hope managing. We haven't heard from Feekerry for a while. Am I being vague, or isn't her baby due in the not too distant future?
xx

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Hollyjokes · 04/12/2013 18:27

Thanks Chaffinch, the GP initially called the promethazine something else on the phone and then called it promethazine when I asked him what it was, hence why I asked if it's the same thing. I can collect a prescription for it in the morning but I bet he will give me a small amount and not agree to any repeat prescriptions afterwards as he's made it clear that he doesn't agree with long term use, so I hope that my hospital appointment comes through soon. I must remember to ask the hospital to fax or write to my GP and stress that I must be given repeat prescriptions of whatever they give me.

Thank you for the links meerka, I'll have a look through them once DD is in bed.

Lucinda the dehydration isn't too bad right now. I'm on one + for ketones at the moment. I'm trying to sip water throughout the day and about half is coming back up. The HG didn't let up until around 25wks last time but I stayed on medication until DD was born because I'd gradually start vomiting again whenever I tried to stop taking the tablets. I was cured when she was born though! I know some people still suffer even after they've delivered so I have to be thankful for that at least.

Sally8655 · 04/12/2013 22:34

I could just cry, another day in hospital due to pains. Looks like early contractions but main concern is blood pressure and heart rate. Both have gone up loads.

Just found out today, I have to move house in the next 2 weeks after I've spent a fortune on this one. Totally gutted. Plus I could really do without the stress.
Started washing baby clothes and some shrunk! I'm so fed up.
Can't stop stressing about having to disinfect a whole house and move everything in while I'm this poorly. Life is not being fair to me :-(

Scheriously · 04/12/2013 22:46

Oh Sally I'm sorry, that all sounds so stressful and is def not what you need. Life does seem to throw everything at once at us sometimes, and it's crap. Have you got people to help you move?

Sally8655 · 04/12/2013 23:43

Yeh husband will do most if not everything but I'm such an OCD perfectionist that I know I'm going to be highly stressed and upset if its not cleaned and painted how i want it.

It's taken me so long to organise and get this home how I want it and now I have to start again, it just makes me so angry. Saw the new house this morning and although the decor seems ok ish, the woman's a hoarder and it looks filthy. She says carpets will be professionally cleaned but don't believe that at all.
The whole thing fills me with dread!!

jenpatnim · 05/12/2013 00:12

Oh no Sally, that is terrible! I hope it all goes smoothly! Why on earth do you have to move?

livingzuid · 05/12/2013 06:25

sally sorry to hear that about the house, not what you need right now.

jen how are you now did you manage to rest and feel better?

scheriously I posted too soon, really glad you got some medication to tide you over but what a kerfuffle. Do you have your referral now?

Well I have seen a drastic improvement the last two days. I still feel nauseous particularly in the morning but it has subsided. I think the trick has been to ensure I eat regularly, changed the timing of my medication around so I can eat 1st thing, and I have been able to expand my repitoire to cover crumbed chicken, apples and oranges and a hot milk before bed to settle my stomach. Still have very painful acid and I ate too much last night! I eat Nutella on white bread every 2 hours and that works a treat but I still can't eat much else. I made an error of grabbing some doritos and a kit kat to eat in the car on the way home and regretted it so badly. It's so nice to add some fruit to my diet at last.

But it has been better-I've had two good days at work and tonight am even going out with a friend after work to do some late night shopping. Or mooching in my case as we are broke. Don't want to overdo it though as I get very tired easily.

I guess it would start to ease up around now? I am 14 weeks on Saturday so nothing to worry about? Sickness was reassuring in a screwed up kind of way. I am going to not take a sickness tablet over the weekend to see how that goes - don't want to chance it with work, have big meetings today and tomorrow and nothing smart fits any more

Meerka · 05/12/2013 09:28

sally Im sorry to hear about your move. The timing could be a lot, lot better :/ glad your husband can do it but I hope you can get help and support from other people too. Please, let him do the work. The very last thing you need is more physical (or mental) stress atm! And ofc we will always be here for you to let off steam.

holly i really hope you can get somewhere with your doc.

living, very good to hear you are doing better :) wow, late night shopping! And ..... it's dec 6th! you can introduce your little one to sint niklas early :D

jenpatnim · 05/12/2013 11:55

Living, I started to be more functional after 14 weeks - that was when I went back to work after 2 months off (although I am a teacher so it was my actual summer holiday, not sick leave, I was able to start term on time)... I still needed the anti sickness tablets but found that they worked a lot better.

I am off school again today (had told VP I'd take 2 days for sure and let her know about Friday). I am definitely not feeling as wretched as I was, although my throat is still sore, still coughing up stuff and voice is definitely impaired. I will see how today goes before I make a decision about tomorrow - I could justify staying off another day on the voice alone, I kind of need to be able to talk to do my job. And talk loudly, not croak like an elderly frog. Thanks for asking! I do hope things start to improve for you, you know how it is having more than one medical issue to contend with!

Hollyjokes · 05/12/2013 13:36

Sally it sounds like you have so much on your plate at the moment. I really feel for you. I can't even face cleaning the house to put the Christmas tree up, let alone an entire move. I hope that you have lots of help in RL.

Jen, if you don't feel up to working then I would say don't go in. I always found that if I tried to push myself to do too much then I always ended up feeling worse for it.

I am absolutely kicking myself today. I was supposed to collect a prescription for promethazine from the GP but I completely forgot that it's Thursday today and that the surgery is only open until lunchtime on Thursdays. It was 1pm when I remembered. So I now have to wait till tomorrow before I can get my tablets

ChaffinchOfDoom · 05/12/2013 14:17

ah Sally, practice some meditative deep breathing, hope that the pains are better and your bp/heart lower.
Let your dp step up to the plate and manage things, it's hard for us all to let go of stuff but you have to put yourself and your health first.

I feel like Im letting them down at work simply as I move more slowly - it's all in my head but it is a terrible feeling of letting them down.
bugger everything! let it all go, it isn't important.

jenpatnim · 05/12/2013 14:36

Well I had an asthma review today, and the nurse said to take tomorrow off as well.. So I feel justified on medical advice lol. I have phoned school and said I'll be back on Monday. Truthfully, I got up at 11, went to a friend's for lunch (she lives 5 min from the dr and I was planning to go there from school anyway as I knew I had that appt) and then the dr and now home - and I am beyond exhausted. I want to try to tidy a little but then I will need a sleep. I can't imagine how bad I would be feeling if I was attempting to work, never mind that my voice keeps failing on me!

ChaffinchOfDoom · 05/12/2013 14:45

take it easy Jenn! enjoy your sleepy afternoon.

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LucindaE · 05/12/2013 16:03

Sally Poor you, that's hardly any notice at all. So agree with others, let DH do it, you must conserve your strength. Poor you, one thing after another, hugs. How are the pains?
Jen Poor you, too - lol abut 'elderly frog'. That virus is really nasty, it takes ages for the sore throat to go, even gargling asperin - which I assume a pregnant woman isn't allowed to do? I'm glad you've got till Monday off.
Hollyjokes I'm relieved ketones aren't too high yet. The phone number for the Pregnancy Sickness Support link Meerka supplied if you need it for advice about getting meds is 024 7638 2020. Annoying you have to wait for those meds. Don't worry about being one of the tiny minority of people it doesn't go away for after birth, chances are massively against that, particularly if you were OK last time.
Livingzuid Going out shopping? Adventurous. . With some it starts to tail off round now, and I hope you are one. It tends to be a bit later for many others,but your good days are a really good sign. Those first good days are almost always followed by lots more...

Schereiously MeerkaSicknSpanOnly1Scoop Totes and Everyone I hope coping in this minor hurricane. and apologies to anyone rudely ignored.
xx

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LucindaE · 05/12/2013 16:05

Chaffinch You are being a hero in slow motion going in to work at all!
xx

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