Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Oh sally that's awful. Can you get your dh to talk to them? It's amazing how woefully ignorant medical professionals dealing with their supposed area of speciality are.

Make sure you nag and get to see your consultant tomorrow.

Bit better today. Slept for 12 hours! Went for a swim and now eating some chicken and rice enjoying the sports relief bake off. Am making up for lost time as I couldn't watch the rest of Bake Off last year as it made me sick and I missed the final :(

Am under orders from doctor and psychiatrist to exercise every day to help keep the blood pressure down and improve my bipolar which has gone a bit bad again. I had a coughing fit in the pool and think the chlorine is a bit getting in my lungs as I have never had that before. But I think my I felt the baby move whilst swimming so it was worth it :)

Great advice on the sugary drinks. Dh is on a diet and adores coke and can't get lucozade here but may hide some coke in the house!

Sally Ah, that is dissaponting that baby is taking so long to arrive. You poor thing, how insensitive of them to discuss you like that, for sure you are not making a fuss about nothing, bieng short of breath is frightening. Livingzuid Great idea, it might be a good idea for Sally's OH to ring them too.

xx

I've told my husband if they have not got back to me by 3pm he has to call them.
Really just gutted that they made feel I was being silly and weak willed.
To top it off the nausea is really bad right now cos I've got myself so worked up.
Feel like they don't understand that this has been so much harder for me as I'm poorly anyway and that just seems to be dismissed.
I hope that the consultant will be more helpful tomorrow and understand this baby needs to come out soon. I really don't need a severe relapse right now which I can slowly feel happening. I've been warning them things were likely to go bad.
Maybe i should have taken the option of c section at 37 weeks when it was offered. It's like I'm being penalised for wanting to do things naturally.

oh dear sally, sorry to hear the baby is still too snug and bloody hell, there is nothign stopping the medical people at least being polite is there? The rudeness of the doctors has such a bad effect when you are really struggling :(

Spoke with hospital and that was a waste of time as they can't make an appointment to see the consultant tomorrow with it being Sunday.
When I told the midwife my symptoms and concerns she asked me why I was so breathless! Well if I knew that I wouldn't be worried and ringing!!
She said if I was really bad to go in but then said there is nothing much they would do today anyway. What a waste of time.

Sally, I am so sorry you are still stuck! The doctors should be more understanding. That sucks. Get DH on the case, make sure he explains that you have ME as well.

Whoever it was puking in public, I managed to puke outside the post office and outside the chemist when out trying to get my ondansetron.

I usually go into town with my mum on a Sunday, and today I thought I could go in for a short time even though the nausea was bad. Then mum told me she had a thing to pick up for my brother but she was totally confused about what it was so I figured the best way was just to go with her - but it meant a lot more walking than we normally do. So now the pelvic pain is horrendous and I still feel sick.... It is my own stupid fault, I shouldn't have overdone it.

On a more positive note, I found, whilst tidying, a cross stitch set I hadn't opened and have been working away on it during sleepless hours and time spent on the sofa. It is definitely helping me not to get bored and tire me out a bit, even though I am not sleeping that well.

Love and hugs to all... I wish I could say that it all gets magically better towards the end, but I am not there yet. Although I was pretty good from weeks 16-30 so there may be a temporary reprieve for some if you are on the right meds.

Jen I didn't realise you were still in meds, they wouldn't let me past 28 weeks. How unlucky we are to have had the sickness throughout. I definitely think the overdoing things and stressing makes it worse.
Well done on the cross stitch, I got too tired to finish my rug for the babies room so I'm getting my sister to complete it for me. I'm such a cheat ;-)
Dh is going to talk with the hospital tomorrow and let them know how bad I am. He is frantically hoovering the whole house after building furniture and unpacking the last of our boxes today. I told him not to worry cos with the way th

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So I told him not to bother cos I'm probably going to go on for another week known my luck.
I'm ordering a spicy curry tonight though just to try and help.

Xxx

My goodness Sally - I am quite at your maternity ward. The discussing you while you can llisten is so rude - but then so is being dismissive I hate those moments when you feel so awful that you cry and subsequently feel as though you've surrendered any chance of being taken seriously. I definitely would go back in if you need to and let them see the issues.

jenpatnim sorry to hear you're feeling bad again. I went to the royal this week and the staff were absolutely lovely. It was amazing how much better I felt once I found that they were going to be nice. Does that make sense?

Embarrassing public vomiting? Oh yes. The worst was after a meal out with dp. Five times I puked on the way home. It was only a ten minute walk

what Im also on prochlorperazine. Ive been on it for nearly three weeks and have a mouthful of sores where the tablet dissolves between my lip n gum.

I'm going to have to drag myself out n about this week. We're going to have to move before I have this baby. And I know how hard it is.moving while pg - we did so last time. (I can tell this story now sally has moved properly) DS was prem. We were half moved between old.place and new place. Everything packed. Beds in new place but no cooker or fridge, no cot, all baby stuff packed. DP had holiday booked but I gave birth before we could move. It was a disaster! So - I have to get sorted quickly cos there is no way I'm doing that again

Iworry, that must have been awful. At least I was fortunate that I wasn't as poorly during the move.
I am pleased that we got moved and organised before baby arrives. It's a huge relief. Rather stressful but so happy we got it over with.

Yay on the cross-stitch :) I have re-learnt how to knit! I think I might need it tonight to help me sleep, going to practice making some things for the baby although a June arrival means that winter stuff on sale at the moment would be stocking up for later in the year... (fallen in love with Percy Pig babygrows at M&S).

Sally I understand about the stress. I have an interview tomorrow and found out someone I thought was a friend has also applied and has an interview. It's awkward as she is in remission from cancer but still, has a job to go back to with interesting things happening on her team and knew all the struggles and hopes I had. Promptly wanted to be sick when I heard! Funny how that kind of thing affects our sickness?

I am sure that it will be worth waiting for the natural birth - will you get to speak to your consultant tomorrow?

I'm hoping so living, they have told me I should be able to get an appointment for the afternoon but I doubt it and think I've just been fobbed off. It's usually so busy, I know it's very unlikely to get one in the same day.

Hi ladies. I'm not sure if I'm into HG territory as you guys all sound scarily worse than me, but I'm starting to get a bit worried that I'm heading that way and would really appreciate some advice.

I'm 8 weeks today, first time, have been having gradually worsening nausea and vomiting for the last fortnight. At my worst I can't keep even sips of water down without retching or bringing up bile - that can last for most of the day or just a few hours. But I also have a few hours a day when I'm able to eat and keep food and liquids down without too much of a problem - generally what happens is that after feeling rotten for hours I get a craving for something (chicken normally!) and if I can get some of that food in time, the nausea vanishes for a bit, at which point I try to get in as much nourishing food as I can while it lasts. In between I have times of eating small meals and then lying on the sofa not daring to move in case I throw up. Have lost about half a kilo give or take. Am really struggling even to work from home let alone face commuting. Have tried all the usual MS suggestions (biscuits, lots of small plain meals, ginger, something nice to sniff, rest, multivitamins) but nothing seems to help much.

Right now I'm getting enough food and water in the good times to keep me going - but each day seems to get a little bit worse and I'm wondering when I should go to the doctor now (or call my midwife?) or whether I'm just being a wimp! I think I'm still in bad morning sickness stage rather than proper HG but I know from online reading that one can slip into another if untreated and I really, really don't want to think about getting any worse! Suggestions would be welcome.

Totes I read the MC thing, agree there could be something similar with the way our bodies overanswer to the hormones with so much sickness
tis interesting medicine indeed.

Hi Jessplus sorry to hear you're feeling rotten

agree eat exactly what you fancy whenever you fancy it. Pay no worry to healthy food - just ANY sort of food/drink is brave and marvellous.

try ice lollies, frozen stuff, tin fruit and drink the juice, fizzy, ice cold drinks, or red hot drinks to sip, salty crisps nibbles etc.

you can buy ketostix from the chemist for £3 ish, you wee on them to measure your hydration
if you measure 3 or higher you need an emerg doctor apt to discuss rehydration.
In the meantime see your GP and see if theres a 1st level med you can take - cyclizine or avomine are good start points

great links throughout this thread, and we're always around X

Iworry - I am glad the staff at the Royal didn't make a liar of me! Also glad you felt reassured about going.

Jessplus - Chaff has the right advice, listen well. We have become experts at this. Sadly.

Sally, try and get some rest tonight and hopefully you will get some answers tomorrow. How many weeks are you now?

Living - I have been a demon knitter and crocheter for years, this is a good alternative. Although I am tired tonight and have made a few mistakes, so I am taking a break. Plus when I close my eyes I can see the cross-stitch pattern...... aargh lol

I have taken some paracetamol and rested with a heated blanket which has helped the pelvic pain a little, and I am going to try to eat something too. Have a good evening, ladies!

hi jessplus

what doomfinch said ... and try to get meds. If you're strugglign to get water down that's not good. it's recommended that if you're that sick then you get meds early because it helps stop the sickness progress to worse levels.

Thanks Chaffinch, Jen and Meerka for your words of experience! Will try and get a doctor's appt tomorrow and see what they will give me. I'll definitely mention the water thing - it's not that bad all the time by any means but it does sound like a pretty bad sign.

jess before you go to the doctor, have a good look at this link : NICE Guidelines on N and V in preg

The NICE (national institute for clinical excellence) guidelines are the governmental guidelines that doctors are supposed to follow. A lot of docs are still pretty uninformed on severe sickness and nausea so it really is worth just checking what's recommended.

Jessplus Welcome - poor you, it is such a horrible thing (mother hen arrives late, flapping and clucking) I don't think I can better lovely Chaffnich and Meerka's advice and links, and so glad you have got a doctor's appointment. Definitely seems like Hyperemesis, unfortunatly, as the others say, do get some kesostix to measure for dehydration, it can catch up on you quite quickly if you take a sudden turn for the worst, and the awful thing is, I don't want to worry y ou, but when it does you can no longer think straight, as I remember from my own experience years ago, and can see sometimes on this thread when people get in a dreadful state and are being too brave.
Sally I hope the spicy curry (swear box) - how brave of you - worked and baby is even now on the way out...
Jen Congratulations on cross stitch as adiversion! I so admire people who are skilled at that. You mustn't blame yourself for daring to take a walk. That sounds awful about the chemists and post office performances,I hope it hasn't been that bad of late. It is so awful that you got bad again, I believe to do with hormone levels - did I read somewhere that at the end of pregnancy you have 100 times as much Ostrogen in you as normal - well, Meerka might well know...
Livingzuid Good luck for interview,however things work out - for all two - no, all three of you! Brave of you to go for an interview when incapacitated.
IWorry That sounds like a dreadful Public Puking Experience. All in ten minutes! He must have had half to carry you, after that..
Totes Interesting about those connections.
MurderofGoths How are things?
What and Eveyone?
Apologies to anyone overlooked.
xx

Really hope you've had some good news today Sally!

jess I'd see your doctor so they can at least keep an eye on you.

I'm not doing so well, but not sure if it's "just" withdrawal from the higher dose of prednisilone or the HG, hard to know. Yesterday I slept most of the day and barely ate. Not feeling so hot today either. No vomiting at least, but the nausea is definitely there.

The SPD is agony, hurts even lying still today.

I dont know about the oestrogen no ... but ...

In my reading and research I did come across one way that's supposed to help get things moving.

The stories about spicy foods and sex are supposed to be just that, stories. But apparently there is some evidence that nipple stimulation can both get things moving and shorten the labour.

But you have to do it a lot. 3 hours a day.

I had to re-read that paragraph in the book about 3 times ... !

sooo there you go, sally, one (apparently) method of getting things going!

Missed what you said before Totes, "One wonders if HG is our bodies going into overdrive about being poisoned."

My doctor reckons that it's basically an allergic reaction to the hormones and our bodies are trying to get rid of the hormones. She wondered if that might be why I conceived while on the pill.

Just back from hospital, had a sweep and booked for induction Thursday. If they are not busy they will do Wednesday night.

I can not describe how relieved I am to soon have this over!

Does anyone know if prochloraperazine me late is cumulative or like paracetamol? I.e. Wears off after a few hours?

Have such a sore throat today am struggling to swallow anything but don't feel as sick as other days. Haven't taken my tablets today but wondering if it kind of adds up?