Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

yes ten so exciting thinking about having a littley again at Christmas and birthday parties
all the big family stuff.
This time I am determined to stay v chilled out, not get stressed, I know how fast it all whizzes by, I am going to enjoy it thoroughly, as it will definitely be my last.

hehe meerka you explain it better than me

very hot water with a slice of lemon
very hot tea
ice water - with a straw
pink lucozade
lilt

crumpets
toast
pasta
thin slices of apple

really cast your mind about as to what you fancy. no mater what the time of day or however random it is

bit of a name tweak

Hi I'm new on here, feel a bit like I'm intruding you all seem so supportive of each other! It's lovely to see! I'm on my 7th pregnancy (not got 6 children I unfortunately had a few miscarriages but suffered HG before I lost my poor babies) this is my 4th child and is a great sacrifice to my health, sanity, and and every member of my family to go through HG again!! At the moment I'm coming up to 6 weeks and ready but not ready for the HG to begin, started anti sickness tabs but I can feel it getting worse everyday, god don't you wish there was some magic cure so we could all 'enjoy' our pregnancies! It's supposed to be exciting, right? It's so not fair I want to stamp my feet and cry!!! But enough childish thoughts and feeling sorry for myself, it's not going to help is it! I wanted to ask how many people have been put on zofran/ondansetron anti sickness tabs, I was put on them by my hospital but my GP wouldn't prescribe them again as he said there's a risk of miscarriage, this was a week after I had unknowingly miscarried. The tablets worked but I'm extremely worried to take them again, but don't understand why I'd be prescribed them in the first place. It's a catch 22 situation so if anyone has any helpful advice I'd love to hear it. Now after that essay I will leave you in peace, whilst sending my sympathy and hoping it's over ASAP for you all!! X

hi. I'm on pg number 4, but child no 1. I was prescribed ondansetron each time and had missed miscarriages the 1st 3 times but it wasn't the drugs. I'm on it again now since week 6 and I'm 15w now. don't worry about taking it, it's the best one, you are lucky to get it so early without a fight.

hi bikerchick!

risk of m/c!!
They didn't tell me that, and I'm para 2+2
have taken 3 ondansetron per day since week 9
now week 17+ 3 and hopefully ok
I wouldn't be able to eat at all without the drug. All the stuff Ive read does not link it to increased M/C, could the doc be bullshitting...

this thread helps you lose your trust in docs and lying pharmacists

Hi biker (what sort of bike do you ride? )

I'm so sorry about the miscarriages, wish you all the very best for this preg.

Your doctor may not have seen the latest research on Ondansetron. www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1211035/ There is no significant risk of miscarriage or other bad outcomes at time of birth in using it. This was in a study of thousands of women - cant quite work out if it was 2000 women or nearly 10,000 who were on it, I think 10,000. What we don't know is any long term effect, but so far results are encouraging. It's been used for over a decade in cases of severe sickness.

Also, it is recommended by the National Guidelines for Clinical Excellence, which doctors are supposed to go by. cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

Severe dehydration on the other hand is a known high risk factor for preg women. If you have HG then you have to weigh up and choose the lowest risk I think, and Ondansetron does sound a good idea for you. A very good idea.

Lucinda's link in the first post to pregnancy support sos is also well worth taking a look at, they're great.

I do hope it's not as bad this time though realistically it sounds like it's going to hit again :( very best of luck, biker

arg links

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1211035/

cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

and again, crosspost doomfinch sorry (blush)

At no point have I heard risk of mc with ondansetron and I have been on it since week 8 (week 24 now)

In other news, after being worried that I wasn't feeling flutters, I have gone straight to kicks! Baby is kicking the crap out of me, and my mum was even able to feel it from the outside! It's cool, but distracting, lol

You will approve to hear that I have brought home NO work over half term. I need to do a few things around the house and work on the nursery, but other than that I am not working. I am on holiday, dammit.

Family issues are getting worse - my mother is talking divorce after nearly 40 years. It is a disaster, and very stressful. But I understand.... I divorced my ex on a lot less to go on than she has against my dad. Sigh.

haven't needed lactulose for over a week now. think eating the apples keeping it all moving/
drinking tea.

Oh good about work Jen! but I hope you don't get bruises from the little one

Sorry to hear about your mum's situation. Hope it is not too stressful for you, bound to be pretty difficult :/

oh Jenn Im sorry you have family upheaval to support them through. Hope they remain civil and mature.

take some days to purely relax! utter bliss.

Im also getting a bit at no real flutters to speak of. Hope all ok in there

our son lays his head on my tummy every night and tells me what the baby is up to. It's a bit freaky when he says "the baby's playing with a friend in there!"

Peanut butter and tomato sandwiches. Stayed down, who'd have thought!

Hi all, waves to newbies and sorry to Jen, that all sounds very stressful.

Well, needed a rant....yesterday was a awful day. Sickness stated very early and was into double figures by lunchtime. Had long sleep in afternoon, had a few hours respite in early evening and then came back with vengeance and was throwing up till 11pm last night. Woke at 2.30am today with huge waves of nausea washing over me. Starting throwing up at 6am- grrrrrrhhhhh, I am very mad at my body right now. I did have attitude that every day I get through is a day closer to me feeling better blah blah blah but today, I'm mad!!!! Sorry, rant over.

hey all. sorry for stresses and bad sickness. it seems like one crap thing after another sometimes.

my dh has the tummy bug. he is a wonderful man, supportive, helpful, brilliant dad, so i am only going to say this mean nasty comment here on the safety of mn: big fucking deal! yeah you feel like shit and puked lots but you will be fine in a few days, i have 30 weeks left! and at any point have i gad a day off and a lie in? bloody no i havent!!!! grrrrrrrr

thats all. back to being nursemaid to my icky family

Oh eggy, men just do not understand! Don't worry, we do. xx
Bezza, you sound pretty bad too, big hugs

Going into town today with mum for a nice lunch, and hoping that will be nice and relaxing. Also have plans over the next week for meeting friends, cot shopping and generally relaxing, as well as sorting out the nursery a bit.

sounds good jen, enjoy.
eggy you have not had it easy have you? you poor thing..

I have a cold. I'm very annoyed, because I'm just starting to get my life back together and now I'm unable to breathe lying down so both me and dh had a sleepless night because of me. gah!

eggy rant away mm is brill for stuff we'd never dream of saying in real life. Gentle pats and restorative thoughts heading over.

jen your week sounds lovely. Slightly envious!

rara hello from junebug thread. Sorry you're suffering too. bezza and I are both on here so you'll get support whichever thread you Post on at least. How has this morning been?

Well I am high as a kite here today. sickness abated so very happy, even allowing myself to think about there being a baby in the house again(squeal!) but also the combination of ondansetrondansetron and cyclizine issuing me feel a bit squiffy. very nice indeed!

Have a good day y'all

Goodness, lots of action on here. Welcome new people, sorry you are suffering.
RaraWelcome, I can't better Choc (or ChaffinchofDoom's and Meerka's advice, make sure you are taking in what fluids you can and check for ketones (are they protein of some sort in urine? Bad protein!) in your urine.
Tenlittlefingers welcome,Of course you aren't crazy - and most people on here agree relentless nausea is probably as bad as the constant vomiting. Again, I can only second other's advice about watching out for dehydration.
I don't know how people manage with Hyperemesis and one LO, let alone two. LO's don't really understandhow bad y ou feel; some try hard, but...
Bikergirl welcome, my goodness, you are a Hyperemesis veteran, again I can only second other's advice about the research results on links etc.
You are very brave.
MOB That old expression we said in my youth, 'No s**, Sherlock' sums that nonsense from GP up!
Jen Really sorry about marital problems with parents, but they'll have to sort it out themselves, try not to let it get to you and have a good rest over the half term. Congratulations on wriggly baby. Didn't realise you 'd been through a divorce.
Eggy I so agree. Men think a day or two of sickness is the end of the world. Hmmph...
Tallyra Congratulations on fifteen weeks.
ChaffinchofDoom I had a terrible Pasta Bake and Wardrobe Experience and couldn't go near it for a long time, but glad it helps you. It is hardly a wonder you're tired, with Hyperemesis, two LO's and a part time job. I think anyone who copes with that is a marvel and others can tidy their house up! I would, if I was nearby...
SicknSpan That is lovely news about scan. You needed a boost.
Sorry to anyone rudely overlooked.
xx

Hello all! Hello new faces! I haven't been posting as much as the days don't seem to leave any time for mumsnetting. DH has been working until 9 at night and is gone by half seven so I have been doing everything. Just as well I can cope with it now. Not up to full speed by any means but on the whole feeling more positive.

Problem is that DS misses him terribly and is now playing up today when DH left to go out. I managed to cook a lamb curry for them (no way I can touch it) and it was not gracefully received by DS. Sigh. Wonder why I bother sometimes. Oh and I spent the morning tidying up DHs study for a photo shoot this afternoon. Found loads of unopened post. Grrrrrr.....

Anyway, how are people coping with teeth cleaning? I am still gagging when I try for more than a few seconds. Also, discovered olives help with gross mouth taste. Anyone tried? I guess it's the acidity.

16 weeks here and only felt the odd thing because I have an anterior placenta and baby is still very low in my pelvis apparently. Hope the little fellow is ok. It's a bit disconcerting. I can't quite believe I am pregnant still, just like I have had a horrible illness for months. Saying that, things are gradually improving. It is very gradual but every week feels better than the last. This is earlier than last time too.

Eggy - Just as well guys can't carry babies. Can you imagine a man suffering from HG?
Biker - wow, you deserve a medal for going through it that many times.
Bezz- you sound like you are in a really tough phase. Are you in the first trimester?

Everyone else - hope you can make the best of the weekends. Thinking of you all pukers x

Totes, yeah am only 8 + 4 and with ds it went on till 14/16 weeks so got a while longer to go. Got a scan on tues though, not private but normal nhs one as like sick they want to check it's just one baby and also have thyroid issues.

Gawd, the first trimester is awful. People always said to me that it might be two as I was so sick. Yeah right. Might actually die if I had two in there!

thinking of you all ladies.

i dont think i am having a bad time especially its just hg makes ordinary everyday little issues and challenges really hard to cope with.

Totes - re: Men and suffering - my brother was feeling VERY brave with an audience (me and OH) as SIL normally doesn't let him away with stuff but he said - and I quote - "If men had babies we'd be done in 4 months as we are more efficient" and "You know why women get periods? They fcking deserve them".

Fortunately he was joking! He is really a very nice guy and very excited about becoming an uncle!

Yeah, I met my ex when I was 18, was with him 12 years, married for 6 of those. The split was very gradual, I thought we were growing apart, he was distant and unaffectionate, he blamed me and said I was less attractive etc etc we went to separate rooms to him moving out. I found out about a year later by accident he had been having an affair with a woman I thought was a friend in England. He thought all along that when he split with me he would live happily ever after with her but she didn't leave her husband. I met OH, not looking for another relationship - being honest, just looking for someone to.. make me feel better after the rejection iykwim, and he turned out to be the one for me. Much to my amazement, as he is 8 years younger! I really didn't take him seriously at the start but he grew on me lol, and now I can't live without him and I feel weepy thinking about how much I love him.

And ex? Ended up living alone in a 1bdrm flat. He has recently started dating, apparently. He made sure to tell me. Like I care! Eh, I don't bear him any ill will, I wouldn't have been any happier thinking of him being alone forever, so hopefully this girl sticks with him. If he puts his mind to it he can be a good partner, we did have lots of good years.

So that is my story, in a nutshell. It was very traumatic at the time, especially as when we split there were huge financial implications (house in neg equity and so on) and I got made redundant from my job. But I took the financial consequences and declared bankruptcy to avoid landing a massive personal house debt and found a new job which turned out to be miles better. Funny how life works out. I am living in a much smaller house, in a less desirable area but I have more disposable income and I am happier than I have ever been, planning my wedding and having a baby!