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I thought I was 7 weeks and something and I had a US and Dr said I am 5 weeks

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Mon26 · 26/07/2013 16:30

Hello !

I have tried to be away from internet because after 4 miscarriages I was getting a bit too much information to get pregnant again. But after today's appointment I thought I would come to seek your advise.

I got pregnant again. My last period was 4th June 2013, I believe I ovulated aroun the 20th of June, today 26 July I thought I was 7 weeks. I had some brownish spotting, and since I finished work I went to the Early Pregnancy Unit. To my surprise they told me there was a sac but 5 weeks. I know how we can the weeks, but how do the ultrasound expert calculates the "age" of the embryo?

I am booked for another appointment in one week to see if it has grown, but I am worried sick. I will be devastated if this is not going anywhere again.

I am wondering if anyone has had a similar experience and ended up with a beautiful baby anyway.

I will be obliged if you can share your experience, and please don't mimnd being realistic. Fingers crossed.

Thank you!

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 26/07/2013 16:36

It could be just how they calculated. Midwives may well start from date of last period. Whereas they may be dating the actual pregnancy (which is usually about a two week difference based in a 28 day cycle they estimate ovulation to be around two weeks into the cycle.

Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 26/07/2013 16:43

I hope that's the case anyway.

Just look after yourself in the mean time , there's no way to know until you have the next scan, it's never exact, dates can fluctuate alot. You may have ovulated later than u think.

I hope it's all ok xx

pizzaqueen · 26/07/2013 16:44

sorry to hear about your miscarriages, it is a truly horrendous thing to happen.

did they see the embryo on the scan or just the sac?

Mon26 · 26/07/2013 16:45

Hello wheresmycaffeinedrip,, thank you for your reply. I suspected it could be it, but why would not they tell us so when we are at the doctor's office. I mean, i would think that the doctor would realize that she saying 5 weeks and me saying 7 there is a clash, yet It is 5 weeks. So, I guess they count in the screen just from conception? or even implantation? Oh! God!

Anyways, have you had a experience like this and the pregnancy went on? I am so stressed and my hubby isn't home!

Good weekend to you!

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Mon26 · 26/07/2013 16:49

Hello whereismycaffeinedrip and pizzaqueen,

  1. Well, thanks again, it's true I can't do anything at the moment but to wait til next appointment in abt 10 days, but it is killing me. I already cried, then at home I decided to treat myself for a Pizza :) , ahhah! pizzaqueen. So, after Pizza Express I came to "google"
  1. She said she saw a sac and "perhaps" a lining or so of yolk... too early to be seen she said. ANd I panicked thinking that if it was 5 weeks it means it did ot grow (aka died), but after reading I realised that it could be a misscalculation, but of 2 weeks?? would it not be bad 2 weeks delay in growing? or it is just a mimsscalculation? ahahah! i seriously don't knoe if I should laugh or cry. I will try to stay positive!

Thanks again, you girls in mumsnet are awesome.

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 26/07/2013 16:54

I have no experience of this but I've had experience of dates being out. I lost a month with the first pregnancy (scan much much later but I was further in thAn expected last period was obviously not a period but measurements up til the scan concurred with what I originally thought)

Second time around I had alot if scans due to problems. Although I'm grateful for the attention I received at such a traumatic time. Looking back I so believe that alot of the concerns about growth came from one bad US. What I mean is had I had the scan a week after or a week before then there would not have been the concern. I just had it at a blip stage if that makes any sense at all.

I'm very sorry to hear about your losses :(

lucidlady · 26/07/2013 16:56

Don't they measure the length of the sac and foetal pole, and use that to determine dates? I'm pretty sure that's how dating scans are done.

ChippingInHopHopHop · 26/07/2013 16:57

Sorry I can't help, but I just wanted to wish you the best of luck with this pregnancy & hope it results in a baby for you this time x

freerangechickens · 26/07/2013 17:00

When I was pregnant with DD, I had the exact same thing happen with the brown spotting, and we got seen right away to have a scan. I should have measured 8 something, but I was 6 something, which was very unnerving, but I was far enough along (farther than you are) that they saw the embryo. I was still off by 2 weeks at my 12 week scan, so they moved my 20 week scan and my due date back 2 weeks. She measured 20 weeks at the revised date scan, and was born close to her revised due date, and had the graciousness to pop out in less than 2 hours.

So yes, there is a definite possibility everything can be that far off and have everything be okay. She definitely confused all of us, because we were trying to have her (although we had lots and lots of sex, just in case) and the only thing the Dr. could figure out was that I just was really off in when I ovulated that month. I wish you well.

Mon26 · 26/07/2013 17:02

Thank you again whereismycaffeinedrip and lucidlady,

Yes I also thought that if I had not gone there perhaps the real US in one or two more weeks would have been reassuring, but the spotting stressed me. The first miscarriage was at almost 8 weeks, but all the other ones were at what I counted as 5-6 weeks.

Uff! I really have to try to relaxed.

As on how the doctor measures it gets me confused. Because she asked for my last period date, which I know that week is counted as 0, then she meant I am five weeks, or the embryo is 5 weeks? ahahah! anyways, I have to let time pass.

uffff! :) I will try to be positive, Ijust dream about escaping to the mountains and go fishing near a lovely cottage with hubby. :) If I only could!

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Mon26 · 26/07/2013 17:08

Oh!!! chippingonhophophop and freerangechickens, thanks! I am here glued to the computer screen, and everytime I reply more replies I find. Thank you Chipping for your wishes, and thank you Freerange for your story. If it has to end up in miscarriage, then whatever, but I am seeking peace of mind to pass this coming week as quickly as possible. So, your story is appreciated. I am super glad your daughter finally arrived! What joy to hear that more people has gone through these difficult moments -or at least stressful- and good things come out of it. :)

Cool, I think I will prepare some activity for the weekend to keep myself busy, as this morning I finished my last assingment, and I totally have the weekend off. Last thing I want is to be dragging myself negatively from sofa to bed, supermarket sofa bed....

Thank you ladies!!! You are like heroes coming to save the ones stressing!

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 26/07/2013 17:10

It's only natural your so anxious after what you have been through, but spotting is very common I bled with both. It's not always bad news and its amazing what babies can survive in terms of pregnancy trauma. I really really hope to hear some good news after your next scan xx

Be kind to yourself ok, Thanks xx

sonlypuppyfat · 26/07/2013 17:11

I don't know much about things but when I had my last DD my last period was on x day but when I had my scan they told me I was wrong but when she was born her skin was really dry and flaking my midwife said Looks like you were right.

Mon26 · 26/07/2013 17:28

whereismycaffeinedrip and sonlypuppyfat thank y ou again. I will come back after the scan to let you know the outcome anyways, I think it's only fair to get to know the outcome after sharing it in here :)

Thank you for your good wishes.

Have a great weekend ladies. I can't wait to go to bed and wake up feeling my boobs sore again... let's see !

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rescoonetwothree · 26/07/2013 17:42

i had mc and this happen but no bleeding, thought i was 7 weeks, they said 5 went back a week later and saw the heartbeat - fx that you have the same, the wait is awful but try to distract yourself as much as possible!

Kelly1814 · 26/07/2013 17:47

Hello OP. I had exactly this ( think I posted about it on here) I had bleeding and early scan and they said I was 2 weeks behind.

Am now almost 30 weeks. Caught up a bit in the middle, still a bit behind, waiting to see at scan next week. But I am 30 weeks so there is hope!

So your dates can deff be a bit out without a problem. Have fingers crossed for you :)

TittyBojangles · 26/07/2013 18:16

Just to clear up a couple of questions on this thread. If they can't see a fetal pole yet they date by measuring the sac, a 1cm sac is approx 5 weeks but there is quite a bit of approximation in this.

The 5 weeks does include the time before you ovulate not just from conception or implantation.

And definitely your dates can be out by this much, lots and lots of ladies who are sure of their lmp etc, scan changes the due date and they go on to have a healthy baby. Really, lots. It's impossible to predict though unfortunately.

I wish you all the luck in the world with your pregnancy op. it's an excruciating wait. Un-mn

TittyBojangles · 26/07/2013 18:17

Oops, added a hug at the end of that!

Mon26 · 26/07/2013 18:18

Dear greymoose and kelly1814,

It is very nice to hear your stories. It gives me courage to try and get distracted, busy, working, to let this next days pass as quickly as possible. I am glad it is all going well for you ladies.

Hope, wish, want, that next week I will be able to tell you good news. If not I will post the outcome anyways. I think I will go swimming now to just get distracted until dinner time.

Thanks again! I feel calmer than before, at least I feel I won't welcome hubbie in tears! I might even not tell him anything til next week, he has few things at work going on, would not like to worry him more.

Well, I feel better now thanks to all your posts ans support. Regardless of the outcome, we will get there. Fingers crossed!

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rescoonetwothree · 26/07/2013 18:41

Good luck - hope to see you in the march thread soon! Xx

Mon26 · 31/07/2013 15:44

hello everyone,

first what's first, tittyBojangles and "greymoose*, and everyone, thank you for your support!

I came back to close this story, it all needs and end. Over the weekend the miscarriage became official and today, Wednesday I have passed a good about of tissue with a sac,... Confused Shock, although I am not sure how much more tissue I will need to pass to avoid a d&c, I hope to pass it all by Monday the 5th when I have the ultrasound appointment (They gave it to me in case i was not miscarrying, and I hope to use this appointment as a check that all tissue passed thru. Umh, I have come to terms, somehow, dunno I ended up having to be positive, too much autodestruction would not take me anywhere so on Sunday I fixed my wardrobe and I am donating 10 kg of clothes, Smile.

i will explore the links and threads about miscarriage to see what to do. We have an appointment for September which was given last June when the NHS started doing some investigations (from the moment I called to the first blood test or semen test took 4 months plus 2 more for the doctor to review our blood tests, to tell us on 4th June that he was only the first step, not the miscarrying specialist and that he was referring us now to the specialist,..appointment in September! :( . But we fell pregnant in between.

i am wondering why the embryo is not passing the 5/6 weeks regardless of me miscarrying at 7 or 8 weeks... Everything goes well, I fall pregnant but I don't get passed that! Anyways.

Let me try to make it short, I returned to the thread to let you know as I promised about the outcome, and the outcome is miscarriage. After few days bleeding strangely today I bled more intensely and with some pains I passed some tissue and a fetal sac (biologically speaking quite interesting). I hope to have passed it all and I hope we will find the way to a good specialist even if it has to be private, any recommendations are welcome. We have heard of a dr in ST Mary's Hospital, Dr. Leslie Reagan, and I am wondering if the NHS would be eager to exchange our September appointment at Chelsea and Westminster Hospital to ST. Mary's Hospital instead.although we are considering keeping that appointment and going private to see dr. Leslie Reagan. Anyways, deep breath.

Thank you to you all for your support last week, although I have lived abroad for many years now, to find such nice people on Mumsnet it has been very recomforting. Thank you!

Perhaps, just one question as I am breaking in tears now literally (I've tried to be strong and cold, but it is quite emotional), is there someone out there who has had 5 miscarriages and ended up with a healthy pregnancy? is there really hope? And how?

Best for all of you and lots lots of baby dust and big smiles! Hopefully we will all laugh about it in few years seeing our lovely babies grow :)

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jinglebellmel · 31/07/2013 16:28

So sorry to hear that was the outcome for you, I really hope that you get the healthy pregnancy and baby that you want very soon Flowers

curlywurlyllass · 31/07/2013 16:37

Thinking of you
Ive had 3 losses (2xivf pregnanies) ranging from 6-7w to 5w

currently 16w naturally

hope its not long till you see the specialist and theres a reason that can b helped with meds. My bloods were tested and no issues found.

Good luck and hope to see you posting happy news in the future

Bakingtins · 31/07/2013 16:41

Mon I am so sorry. Came across this thread and was wondering whether to post as I've had this scenario several times and it has ended badly, which was not what you needed to hear whilst you were in limbo. There is a thread for recurrent miscarriage investigations here where you are most welcome to ask your questions about testing and share the journey. There are some success stories on there after multiple miscarriages and also some of us going through testing or trying to pluck up the courage to try again.
On a very practical note - did you manage to save the foetal tissue/sac? Getting that tested in my 4th miscarriage was the most useful step forward for us and led to my referral from the local RMC clinic who can't help me, to someone who actually is doing some research and thinks she knows what is wrong with me. I'd swallowed the "chromosone abnormalities" crap for too many babies Sad.

Armadale · 31/07/2013 16:48

so sorry, I've had 4 in the last two years.

It is almost unendurable at times.

I've had lots of tests- it did help, even if they didn't find the answer it made me think I was exploring every possibility and I hadn't missed a treatment that would stop it happening again, if that makes sense.

Sorry if this is a too personal, but did you pass the sack at home- my last one I passed at home, put in the freezer and when I went for my scan I made them send it away for genetic testing. They were none too pleased but did it nonetheless, so I did feel like I'd gained an answer for that one (was a genetic problem that time).

I really hope you have the happy ending you deserve