Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine bluebirdsunshine (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kalidasa, Nannyl and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

Everyone Just dashing on to say, hugs, it's no wonder you can't bond easily feeling so ill. Like Reebok I'd had an mmc and that made me not bond easily and I was ill after the birth and didn't bond for a couple of week, but it all worked out. It will with all of you, I'm sure.
waves My daughter didn't respond to music, either, and certainly isn't deaf. She even recognised a piece I played repeatedly in late pregnancy and not after that for some years. A belly cast - fascinating idea!
Lucinda
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Looks like my lucky streak is over. Just threw up! Althought not feeling as bad as I did in the earlier days. Just a bit nauseous now.

Reebok Poor old you, I hope you feel a bit better now? That is a disappointment. I hope it's just a temporary relapse.
How is Bump Starling Flo and Everyone doing?
Tired I am glad OH is sorry for his awful attitude and making an effort to change!
Hyper I hope OH is being slightly more considerate?
waves I hope no emergency admissions?
Lucinda
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I've overdone it today - feel utterly awful and between nausea and throwing up I don't know how I will get through the night. Think I may need to spend tomorrow mostly in bed but the nesting instinct has kicked in and all I can see is a million things that need doing round the house. I have no idea what to do

thanks for the understanding about the bonding, it helps that people get where I am coming from. It feels so different from last time, not sure if, like Waves its just that I simply don't have the energy to pay any attention to the pregnancy. I can barely scrape myself off the floor and get to bed by the end of the day so I guess its not that surprising.

waves really feel for you can you get someone paid in to do them for you maybe? I really hope you feel better after a nights sleep

reebok that's rotten luck! hopefully it is a one off!

Hugs to all. Can only echo Tiredfeet waves and hope that you can get someone else to do it, you mustn't overdo it, I don't know how you have any energy left at all. How often is the puking now?
Lucinda
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Another rubbish day. Was sick again but mainly nauseous. On top of it getting pains that feel like period pains...worrying me a bit so going to call the midwife tomorrow morning. Hope the rest of you are feeling slightly better?

Hi all.

I'm on my second (and last :() Cannot do this again HG pregnancy. Had it until delivery with my daughter, and was 2.5 stone lighter at full term than conception. At 28+2 now with #2 and already 3.5 stone down.

Work have told me they are terminating my contract on my due date... They've been awful about me being off etc. It is hellish. Utterly miserable.

My poor DD follows me about when home, holding a bucket 'just in case'. Poor kid. I'm no fun anymore.

Is there something in the air? Reebok my nausea and vomiting is much worse today and also getting loads of bh with back ache and what feels like period pains. Past hour and a half just not going away which is hideous as I just want to sleep to get away from the nausea and vomiting.

Hoping it's just dehydration kicking in and making the bh feel uncomfortable, as I understand that is often the case.

Must be. Despite the medication, I've kept nothing down today, and having distinctly uncomfortable contractions.

Feel your pain. My alarm goes off for work in 6 hours and I cannot sleep.

I'm signed off work sick and won't be going back as I got made redundant last week.

Now practising proper breathing....

I've hopefully stopped losing weight, it's been stable a while, but not gaining so having regular scans as baby is small (although ridiculously active tonight)

3.5 stone is a huge loss! Are you on calorie drinks or anything? I have fortisip which are disgusting but doing my best with them

I was off work for a good while, but got bullied into coming back. It is miserable and I am seriously struggling. I become unemployedon 31/08/13... frantically downloads benefit forms

I've only lost 1lb in the last week, which is a triumph. I got the lovely line of 'well, it's not like you don't have weight to lose!' So no, no calorie drinks, just orders to eat what I can, make it high in iron and protein. I'm stupidly anaemic but can't keep iron tablets down. Possible IV iron happening this week.

So wobbly, and that sucks as I'm a secondary teacher. I get near abuse for being off, then berated for stepping out to be sick or sitting down to prevent fainting. I cannot win. Only 6 weeks until the summer hols.

I have scans every fortnight from now on (just had a call from the hospital!), as he's tiny; long but very very skinny. Just like my first, who despite being late, didn't grown into newborn sized clothes til 13 weeks!!!

My "employment termination date" is 30 June. They haven't been so nice so relieved in a way, but not impressed that I will be job hunting with a new baby.... Full time teaching must be awful to cope with.

If iron tablets are tricky, then spatone is a liquid thing - I have been sipping that where possible. It absorbs more quickly into the body too.

My next scan is a week away, when I reach 34 weeks. Hoping he's grown ok, my first was 8lb6, and my DD was 7lb12 despite being induced 2 weeks early, so not used to the concept of having a smaller one. Last obstetrician I bumped into on the ward said 2 things 2 wind me up (1) 32 weeks already? Isn't time flying! (Well, no, not really, maybe for you, but not for me) and (2) you are looking amazingly trim, think of the positives, you'll be looking amazing right after giving birth (hardly a positive when I am worried about my baby, looking gaunt in my face, needing to sit on a cushion cos my bum feels so bony etc etc) Grrrr. I was a size 8 when I conceived, not in maternity clothes yet, just my regular clothes with loose tops for the bump or my dresses that are not fitted at the waist.

How are you reebok? Did you speak to your MW today? I have been having pretty strong cramps, but more uncomfortable than painful, all day, and have spent most of the day in bed. Hoping it was just overdoing it and dehydration, and that an early night after a quiet day will help

RJN Welcome, sorry you are suffering horribly, and that work have been foul. Was it a temporary contract for them to get away with that?
Reebok Poor old you, I wonder if this worse sickness which is affecting you and others is some virus that's going round, as I had my head down the loo and backache on Friday and I'm not pregnant?
wavesandsmiles I am still mulling over that redundancy thing, can they get away with it under European law even if you aren't in the UK?
Hugs to all.
Lucinda
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Waves Poor you. I'll be doing the same. They've been vile, so it is almost a relief to be out, but at the same time, maternity 'leave' is going to be exceptionally tough money-wise.

I have tried floradix, but can't even swallow it without gagging. Will look up your suggestion. Anything worth a try just now.

Ergh...what a tool!!! I have a scan on Weds, then at 30, 32, 34, 36 and further if I make it that far. My daughter was late, 24 inches, but only 6lb5oz. He is measuring smaller than her, so a bit worried!!!

Lucinda It was the end of my NQT contract. Up until I informed them I was expecting, they were discussing next year etc etc, then after I announced, I suddenly got summoned to be told they weren't keeping me on as it wasn't financially sensible. And then have had colleagues turn on me, making every day a misery. Counting down the days.

Hello everyone. I am so sorry for the people who are still suffering terribly, and those awful husbands too.

Hopefully this will bring some hope - I'm now at 25 weeks and after a number of hospital admissions and being signed off a long time, for the last 3 weeks I have been able to get by on 2 cyclizine a day only! Still sick sometimes, but only say once a day, with some periods of nausea when travelling, some smells etc. Have put on a couple of pounds (still weigh a lot less than I started). Eating many things but still quite a few aversions. Still sometimes ketones, but + not +++ etc. It has been like coming into the light. For me the dark days of HG were comparable with severe depression.

For those concerned about bonding - try not to worry. With my first child, after 5 months of HG and 5 months of excruciating SPD pain I just wanted the 'thing' out. I'm not sure I ever really connected with the baby when it was still there. After she'd been born a few days though the bonding kicked in and there are no problems now. I'm the same with this pregnancy, just desperate for the end and with limited interest in the baby, but I'm sure things will be fine.

Those having problems with work - can you see an Occupational Health doctor at your work (often it's contracted out)? Mine has been so supportive and produced reports that have completely changed the attitude of work. They are independent and your employer has to do what they say.

Those concerned about small babies/bumps - with my first (also HG) pregnancy I had no bump until 7 months, and until I was overdue was able to conceal the pregnancy with the right clothes. The mw panicked and predicted a 4lb baby, but I gave birth to almost a 9 lb! This time again at 6 months + I have a small bump and can easily conceal in the right clothes (I purposely let it all hang out to try to get a seat on bus as otherwise people don't have a clue).

Hang on in there guys, you're all doing marvellously just surviving. I think that's as much as anyone else can expect when you've got HG.
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hi
I hope you dont mind me posting here but you are the hg experts.
I had hg with my last pregnancy, I was hospitalised and on ondansetron and metraclopramide. unfortunately I lost my baby at 17 weeks.
I'm hoping to ttc soon and I was wondering if there is a preventative treatment. I had 12 weeks of hell with hg so will do anything I can to avoid it next time.

Hi nearly. I'm in a similar boat to you. had hg 3 times and miscarried each time about 9 weeks. I have been told that preemptive meds can help a great deal to stop the severity, but not completely. Apparently cyclizene and vit b6 mixture is a wonder drug if it hasn't hit that badly yet. I'm hoping so, because we want to try again asap...

which brings me to say that my appointment with the hospital is tomorrow, so fingers crossed they will agree to investigate. I SO hope the consultant is an hg sympathiser!

Morning Tally, sorry to hear about ur mc's. its pretty rubbish.
I will look into the b vit you mentioned. I have already decided that at the first hint of sickness I am off to gp for meds. will not be trying to battle on as its "only" morning sickness .
good luck for your appointment

Nearly Welcome, hugs about miscarriage so late and after Hyperemesis, how devastating. Some of the women on here have managed to get a sympathetic GP to write out prescriptions for Ondansetron and have found that early treatment really helps. I think research has been done showing that. There's a section on preventative treatment on MOH's wonderful website. sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/treatments/obtaining-treatment-1
RJN I wonder if they have kept to the law- there's stuff about this on sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/employment-issues but with fixed term contracts I suppose they can get away with a lot more. How mean of your colleagues to be hostile. Did they think you were 'making a fuss about normal ms' sort of thing?
Sorry, I'll get your name right yet.
Pollidah Lovely to hear from you, and that things are a bit better (isn't it awful women on this thread talk about 'only' being sick once a day?) Thanks for all these encouraging words about bonding, small bumps and the rest. fancy being able to disguise your pregnancy so long!
Tallyra Best of luck for appointment, I hope you get a brilliant consultant.
wavesandsmiles Hyper Tiredfeet Bump and Everyone I ope you are coping...
Lucinda
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thanks Lucinda, all hugs greatly received as I have just had a positive test. I did suspect hence my question last night.

what are the chances of another hg preg? I was fine with my first but the last one was so awful I said never again.

Lucinda - checked with my union, it's above board, sadly. And they're horrid - apparently I'm pathetic. I confronted one of them today and vomited blood in their bin. Think that might have shaken her up a bit...

I was on cyclizine at 5 weeks. Then metoclompramide at 6w. Then changed to prochlorperazine and something else... GP refused me ondansetron as 'its expensive and [I] can stand to lose some weight'. My consultant thankfully prescribed me ondansetron at 14w. Still on it now, still losing weight and being sick.

My first preg that progressed was hellish. But my daughter was worth it. This time is worse. No more... No more.

really sorry to hear how dreadfully your work are treating you rnj that is such horrible behaviour and they should be ashamed. you don't sound well enough to be working and you are doing amazingly to cope. it sounds like you are best off out of there though! what horrible people! I want to go and shout at them for you!

Waves hope you are doing ok, it must be stressful thinking about redundancy and job hunting on top of everything else but if its any help I had to job hunt with a new baby and it was weirdly ok, I would just do my cv and hunt etc while he napped. the only issues was managing an interview when ds was 100% breastfed and also sorting nursery at short notice but somehow everything worked out and I really hope it does for you.

tallyra good luck for your appointment tomorrow

nearly I read about preventative treatments as suggested by others and they seem like a good idea. I would pick a gp you know will be sympathetic or go very well prepared though, as I wasn't assertive enough and didn't manage to persuade them to prescribe preventative meds this time but suspect I could have if I had pushed harder and come better prepared for a battle. I am so sorry about your loss that must have been extra hard to bear after all you had battled through.

hyper hope you ok

I have managed to reduce my medication . just on metoclopramide now and its ok as long as I take it bang on time.

My PC is playing up,as so often, so back asap, but dashing on to sayRNJ Vomiting blood - I hope it was red (and probably from the throat), not brown? Brown being from the stomach, and in need of checking out asap. How are those ketones?
Leaves clucking, PC about to crash...
I hope Tired and Hyper and Eveyrone are managing...
Lucinda
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Tired really pleased that you are coping on reduced meds. It must be a relief!

RNJ that sounds awful. I hope that you get through the rest of the week in one piece?

I've had a horrific day - a couple of appointments that I had to attend and had to leave both to vomit. Was sick in the kitchen bin twice, and rest of the time in my own toilet which is strangely comforting after flying round strange offices to use theirs

Welcome to nearly - this must be quite a scary as well as exciting time for you. I didn't get meds early enough this time, which I think has contributed to the severity and length of time of the HG. Agree with all the advice and hope you find a sympathetic GP.