Type 1 diabetic mums & mums to be damn that dawn phenomenon!

[SpottyTeacakes]

New thread ladies

Yay Hoping congratulations and she looks fab, hope her sugars stay stable for you. And also yay for the scan weight being wrong! Gives me some hope.

Welcome Kitty good luck with the ttc.

Spotty - you need to work on your DH a bit! Wait till the kids are being cute together and then say something about how you miss having a baby or something, it might work?

Hoping - she is beautiful! I need to work out how to do photos!!

Spotty- brave woman! Having said that, DH always only wanted one (I have already talked him up to 2) but the other day he said we definitely need to have another one as it is so lovely. Amazing what a tiny baby can make you feel!

We know that we want two as DP is an only child and was lonely, but I couldn't have another cs. I've just written to one of my obstetricians from V's ante-natal team to ask about chances of having vbac with induction next time. Fingers crossed she a) responds and b) says what we want to hear!

Diec did you have an awful time?

Dp has completely said no won't even discuss it. I've just put my maternity stuff on eBay

Aw she isnt doing so well now im so sad, her bg dropped to 1.6 twice so she is in nursery on hourly feeds by tube and obv formula as i dont have enough. I feel so helpless and guilty i really wish i wasnt diabetic

Aww hoping don't worry most of our babies (on the thread) need some help to start with. They will stabilise quickly I'm sure. Remember to look after yourself

Hoping - all of our babies had some sort of a rocky start, it happens. She will come through this.

Not sure if you have made up your mind about bf / ff yet but do remember that your colostrum is like magic beans to her just now so even if you have to top up with formula it will do wonders to stabilise her. Also hold her skin to skin as much as you can as soon as you are able to get yourself down there.

Hope your wound isn't too sore. Get loads of that lovely cocodamol down your throat!

Thanks spotty and bona a mw has been helping me hand express every 3-4 hours and says ive had good volume of colostrum but only looks like myb 3mls to me if even that? Giving me crampy feelings afterwards too not that its bothering me all that much .

Latest update there was she is much the same bg at 3.2 still on hourly feeds via tube till at least morning if she gets extended to 2 hourly i may get to go to transitional care with her for a little while. I hsvent asked again re skin to skin as her temp was 'only just ok' dont want poor wee thing ending up in an incubator too dozing on/off just now in between 2 hourly obs and expressing and trying to wait till morning when i get catheter etc out to go back over. Oh goody just checked my bg its 3.3 guess il call the midwife!

Hoping 3ml is a good amount! I was only getting 1ml also that's not a bad bm honestly it sounds like she's doing fine. Are your pains your uterus contracting back? Have you seen your diabetes nurse? Hope the food isn't too nasty.

Hoping - 3 ml is just fine for starting out. There is just not that much colostrum and they are all precious drops. Her wee tummy prob can only hols 3-5 ml at a time anyway!

And good news her bg is up to 3.2 as that is well within normal range for babies. Hopeful everything sorts itself out today and you'll feel better when catheter is out and you can have a shower. When does DH arrive?

Oh hoping, poor you. The others are so right: 3mls of colostrum is perfect; I was told that I had loads and the most I ever managed was 5mls and that took 2hrs of squeezing!
Sugars above 3mmols at my hospital were counted as safe for babies, so hopefully Ellie'll manage to keep them up there.

Yes, spotty, whole experience was one I'd rather forget tbh, only I can't forget it and still feel angry/disappointed/disconnected from V.

Where's puds? When was the last time anyone heard form her? I hope she's ok. Her baby is due round about now, isn't it?

Sorry you had a bad time diec I had a horrendous first labour it does get easier I promise, especially after a great second one. Hopefully you can have a vbac.

Yes I was wondering about puds

Diec- I remember how disappointed you were when you were first told a section was on the cards but i didn't realise you were still troubled by it.

Could you perhaps ask for some counselling to help you come to terms with what happened? I was actually offered this at my hospital although I didn't take them up on it

If it helps, although I am ok about having had a section, the entire hosp stay I had with T haunts me and makes me cry whenever I think about it. I am so angry that during our first precious days together the hosp were so obstructive to what I wanted to achieve, so dismissive of us as T's parents and generally so unfeeling. I look back on that week in a blur of misery.

(None of which helped by birth stories from my nct class like 'I stayed at home with help from my wonderful husband until I was 7cm dilated then baby nubbins was born 1 hour after getting into the birthing pool'. Oh just shut up!!)

Bona I feel your pain. I hate everyone who's baby wasn't in SCBU

diec a planned section itself isnt too bad im just upset because ellie isnt with me and hoping to get her back but i felt the same with my ds totally disconnected with everything trying my best not to let that happen now.

Well only got like 0.2mls there but its the least of my worrys just now i guess and yes getting slightly painful tummy after expressing and its fairly painful to do anything really at the monent but physio wants me to do exercises ha ok then! Waiting on them getting back to us to see if i will be moves to transitional care with ellie this afternoon fingers crossed for us ladies she is up to 2 hourly feeds.

Diec - talk to your hospital about postnatal counselling. I had ante- and postnatal counselling with DS after we lost 2 of the triplets and I had to stay pregnant for as long as possible after they died - it's a very weird situation being able to feel one kicking and know that the others aren't IYSWIM. The hospital had a specialist midwife who is trained in counselling, she was really helpful. I saw her after DS came out of hospital too, so probably when he was 3-4 months old at least, and we went through my notes on labour/section delivery/what happened in NICU too. I really felt like it let me lay it to rest.

Also I felt like DS was little more than a blob, for months, and only really bonded with him when he started responding to me (12m plus I think for us) so don't worry if you don't yet have the rush of bonding that the NCT and all the books seem to reckon you'll have.

Hoping - it sounds like Ellie's doing better with her sugars, I hope the expressing gets easier for you and you get to transitional care asap.

rue that must have been awful i dont know what to say. You done the best by your son tho. Feel a bit weird around ellie right now myself and man am i sore when i do anything!

The good news is we are in transitional care, the other 2 babies are teeny tiny tho proper preemies! Ellie is massive compared to them just need her to keep her bg up and she will get her tube out tho 2 hourly feeds is going to be exhausting lol

Hoping we're still on two hourly feeds you get used to it

Rue it must have been so hard for you I bet your miracle son has made it worth all the heartache though

Oh rue.

I've ordered a book on Amazon about dealing with feelings after a cs.

That's good news hoping; 2 hourly feeds sound fairly normal. Oh my god, I remember the tummy pain after V was born - I felt like my abdomen was on fire!

bona I cried whenever I thought about V's birth for the first month or so, I suppose hormones play a part in our tearfulness.

If we're doing baby photos...I've uploaded one onto my profile. Feel free to have a look. It's day 2, I think.

Argh diec she's super cute!!

Spotty can't believe you are still on 2 hourly feeds. I did it for 10 days and it almost killed me! Now feeding on demand which seems to mean about every 3-4 hours with some cluster feeding in the evenings...

The clusters are hard going. I feed him and within a few minutes he wants more... Unless I just allow him to fall asleep on me which I am trying to avoid during the day (confession - DS has not once slept in his cot, he sleeps on me or co sleeps all night every night!). I thought the pay off for cluster feeding was longer periods of sleep at night but so far no go!

Bona I'm sorry to tell you that when ds came out of hospital he fed three hourly. Then it went to hourly, then two. Then we had some nights of 8 hour sleeps. Then it all went to shit and it's 3-4.5 hourly. Don't worry about the co sleeping it's still really early days

Sometimes in the day we get three hours....if he sleeps....

thanks guys! Bona, I guess I'll have tons of questions once I get there ...
Diec, had a look at your photo - how cute!!!!

Oh also, after six weeks of going down perfectly at 7pm last night and tonight he's waking everytime we put him down. I dozed for about two hours last night with him sleeping on my chest.... sorry for the minor rant, I'm thoroughly fed up and formula is looking extremely inviting right now