Pregnant type 1 diabetics, step over here...

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I seem to have filled up the old thread and thought I better start a new one! Still got ages to go, don't leave me now...

Am currently sat waiting for my 16 week antenatal appt, been here an hour so far and just had BP done and that's it.

Sounds like it hoping, they're not too high and it's good that your correction dose worked well

Perhaps Hoping but I seem to have a few really 'off' days before things settle back down again. I think it's the hormones! I tend to increase things v gradually as I'm so sensitive to insulin.

hoping l was always told to look for a pattern over 2 days before increasing my regular dose.

Oh and it's a bloody 'off day' today for me. Random dawn phenomenon thing happened and I've not recovered since! 13.3 90 mins after breakfast. Hoping it gets sorted soon. Hate the 'out of control' feeling. I'm always so much happier emotionally when things are under control.

Ginger how are you after the night time hypos? x

Hi hopingforno2

I needed to increase my doses tail end of 2nd trimester beginning of third and only tailed off a little from about 35 weeks? X

I'm sick of this. I just feel like I'm either too high and I'm hurting the baby or too low and I'm risking myself. I just feel like I can't take much more and I'm only 26 weeks. The baby's stomach is clearly going mental and so I feel like my lack of discipline has already harmed the baby and it's only going to get worse. I know I should 'just take more insulin' but I'm so scared if hypoing and dying that I am so, so cautious. I feel like I'm split in two and can't handle it anymore. Of course DH just thinks 'it'll be fine,'.

Puds be careful, don't let go yet. You're doing your best, aren't you?
What's your lack of discipline? Naughty treats? lf so, cut them out. They make me feel emotionally rubbish afterwards anyway.
lt's only for 20 more weeks or so.

Oooops, wriggling baby in arms distracting me - l meant 10 more weeks!

Mylittlepuds, my baby's stomach was above the 97th percentile and he was born absolutely fine so please stop being so hard on yourself! I had highs as well as lows and I'm sure everyone else has too, you can only do your best and if you have readings that aren't good, as hard as it is, put them behind you, don't dwell on them and think forward and start again as I bet you have more good readings than bad. I had days where I felt my sugars just don't respond to my insulin but I soon learnt if I didn't beat myself up and tried to sort it, eventually they would be better. I know how frustrating it is but please remember that you have lots of hormones racing through you in addition to insulin that are hard to control and affect your body in lots of different ways. I think you are doing great, if you think it might help speak to your DSN but if I'm really honest, trust your self as you know yourself and your diabetes best. Hope you get on okay. Not long till you meet your wee one now!xxx

puds im the same i think it may just be going from 2nd to 3rd trimester i have increased my doses by 1-2 units with meals been ok today (touches wood) so even small adjustments can help no doubt it will go awry again but my consultant said that they expect around this time? Thats why they are so hard on us earlier on because if control wasnt there then there would be more problems now, my baby is a whole half pound more than average but im still told within normal limits and sonographer said looking perfect and babybond said i must have very good control of my diabetes and id say our levels are playing up as much as each others??

Thanks newbie i have increased a little 1-2 units myb more depending what im eating not perfect yet but better so il give it a few days n increase again if needs be

Okay so I'm out of my funk! Thanks for pepping me up :-) I know I'm always the one who seems to need it! But I honestly appreciate it. I really do :-)

Things haven't been great since about 20 weeks BS wise but onward and upward - we can only do our best and I certainly don't ever mean to run high!

Had another growth scan today and the stomach (which she measured twice) is now 89th centile - so phew! She also said that although they're mindful of the baby's growth at the moment there's no cause for concern and so I have to just take that and move on (hopefully with better blood sugars!) I also asked about the measurements 'leaping' up centiles from 20 weeks but she said all babies are pretty much the same until that point and so not to worry about it.

Do any of you have a lengthy commute to work?

How are you all? Ginger are you there? Been thinking about you (in non weirdly way!).

Hi puds - that's great news. And as the others have said, you just have to try not to be so hard on yourself.

The other thing I'd say is that it is very very very unlikely that you'll die from a hypo. Unless you are driving a car I suppose! Even if you pass out, your liver will save the day with a big dump of glycogen. So, if you feel you need a little bit more insulin -TAKE IT. You need the stuff to stay alive and so does your baby, so don't frighten yourself off.

I've a growth scan tomorrow and dreading being told I've jumped from 59th to 99th percentile in 2 weeks. I mean, I know that is unlikely but I don't feel my control has been great. Mornings are taking longer and longer to sort out at the moment. I got up for the loo at 2 am this morning - 6.8. Woke up this morning at 11.8!! Dawn phenomenon is crazy in me! Contemplating writing up my BG diary for appt tomorrow and know that I'm going to have to massage the truth a little bit. I know that sounds ridiculous. It's not like I'm looking at the readings and ignoring them or pretending to myself that writing something different in the book will change the actual truth... But I just can't face the patronising chat. I'm working on it, I'll sort it in the end and I just don't need to be made to feel bad about it.

How's that for a Monday afternoon confession?

Hello, so great to finally have contact with other type 1s who are pregnant. I'm 19+3 and feel like my levels are way out of control.6.3 before breakfast, 17.9 2 hours after. i can't bear writing them down and having to face the massive fail. I have to admit i've massaged a few figures to get through the hospital check ups, i spend my life correcting and testing and do it as best i can. Hba1c was 6.4 until a few weeks ago but it's going to shoot up after the last few weeks, i'm so impressed with everyone who's under 6 - i haven't managed that in the 12 years since i've been diagnosed!

Welcome dilly.

Bona my dawn phenomenon was the same as yours throughout 2nd and 3rd trimesters and, to be honest, l never got the hang of it. However, Violet has arrived healthy - 2 weeks old today!
Dawn phenomenon is continuing though, which is odd as l didn't have it pre-pregnancy. Morning ratios are now 10g = 2u, as opposed to 10g = 5u during pregnancy.

Welcome Dilly! Don't kick yourself too hard about it - we all come in here most days to let off steam, get some advice and just generally bemoan the fact that diabetes is so damn tricky to deal with! You iwll probably find that your Hba1c stays good - although you are seeing what you might think of as 'less than perfect' readings, you are testing a lot more I would imagine, and probably seeing things which when you weren't pregnant you wouldn't even have been aware of!

Diec - can't believe Violet is 2 weeks old already! I dropped in over the weekend and saw your posts about BF success but didn't manage to post. Am so pleased for you that it is working and that Violet is being such a trooper. Thank goodness for the good advice on this thread!

I'm tired and grumpy at the moment. Lots of hypos because I'm kit concentrating. Still injecting 1u/15g I think it's my levemir that needs reducing.... Felix is right weeks today (sob) and had his first jabs! Still feeding every two hours day and night I feel like a zombie...

Hi dilly - think you're due just after me, official EDD of 2 June, but arriving any time from 36-38 weeks so definitely mid-May for me

20 week scan today went well, no sign of defects etc, just the heart scan on Friday to check that, the growth scans at 28, 32 & 36 weeks to go... Baby was shy and wouldn't uncross legs so still don't know what we're having!

Did you want to find our Rue?

Welcome new person whose name I have forgotten already sorry on iPhone.

Glad all scans are going well

Rue - glad the 20 week scan went well. YAY! Am sure Friday will be fine too, and at least it is another chance to find out the sex (well, the nice lady who did our echo cardiogram spent a few minutes at the beginning and end showing us the full view, not just the heart, so if you get a nice one like her you may well get your chance then!).

spotty - sounds a nightmare in terms of sleep deprivation, but at least little Felix is obviously thriving! Have you thought about expressing to give DP a turn at some point or do yuo think that's more hassle than it's worth?

Speaking of iphones. I tried ot move into the 21st century yesterday by downloading the mumsnet app. But when I found our thread, i had to literally scroll all the way down to the bottom manually. I could see a place where I could click "last" like I would do when on the computer. Am I missing something? How do I get to the last page (took so long with this 400+ post thread that I gave up!!).

Bona just flip the thread, top right hand corner click on the cross and second one down says flip thread. When I was exclusively expressing I could get quite a bit but now I can only get 30mls at a time and I struggle to actually find the time to do it otherwise I would. Do you think if I did it at the same time every day I would start getting more?

Gawd, I don't have any idea about the expressing thing. I know the general rule seems to be that you'll produce as much as your baby is taking - so I guess at the moment you are producing exactly the right amount for Felix and he's drinking it all!

Flip the thread - d'oh!

Bona thanks for your reassurance re. Hypos. It does help hearing it from someone using insulin rather than say my mum! Who is brilliant but doesn't really get what insulin does...I'm going to be brave!

Also Bona I'm 26+4 and my dawn phenomenon is really kicking in now and it's not really happened prior. Same as you - fine until say 2/3 and then it goes mental. However I've been getting up for wees that often I can generally see when it's starting to go up with the CGM and I'm having a 1.5u correction. I wake up then at about 6 but then it starts going up again! So I tend t have breakfast ASAP.

Hello Dilly! Welcome! It's a lifeline this thread, honestly. Have you had T1 long? How's your pregnancy been so far? I've had my fair few of those readings. It's so depressing and worrying. Can you tend to bring them back in line with a correction? Is it happening every meal?

Spotty I used to express first thing in the morning, from one side then feed dd from the other. I'd also express around 10-10.30 at night while DH gave her an expressed feed, so it took 1 1/2 feeds to get one expressed feed iyswim? Sometimes I'd express extra after she'd fed just to make up a bit more, and freeze the extra.

Babies are much more efficient than pumps though, so don't worry about LO not getting enough!

Hello! I'm slightly chipping in to what seems like a long-running chat, but it was headed "pregnant type 1", which I am! Although only just, literally just got couple of positive preg tests, and have GP appointment tomorrow to confirm - then antenatal diabetic appt day after... Scary! I've been T1 for 30 years, and have been preparing for pregnancy seemingly forever... Slightly under active thyroid/ high TSH, which worries me but its being treated, so fingers bloody crossed... Anyway it's nice to hear about other diabetic ladies' experiences, sounds like its a bumpy ride?! But all worth it I'm sure! X

Hi Anna! Welcome! And congratulations! How exciting. Ahh you'll be an old hand with 30 years under your belt

I'm not gonna lie - I'm on DC2 and thought when I fell pregnant this time it'd be a walk in the park as I'd already 'been there'. Turns out it's no walk in the park, it's a lot of hard work, but I'm so glad I've had this thread as support as I didn't last time; and as you'll know - no one quite understands what's its like being T1 unless they're one too. And being a pregnant diabetic is a different animal altogether! But you're right - it is all worth it. DS is gorgeous and always has been. I'm biased of course but he is amazing!

Top preggers T1 tip? Keep your fridge/cupboards stocked with plenty of low carb snacks. Cheese, sandwich meats, nuts, hard boiled eggs, carrot batons, hummous etc etc.

Do you carb count?