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Fantastic 40+ Mum to be - part 2

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Hpbp · 08/10/2012 07:42

Let's keep on chatting !
Awaiting to hear from you all.
Midget, how are you feeling after the sweep ?
Exexe, are you happy with the new kitchen ? Very glad to see you back on here.
Warm welcome to the only Dad we have on the thread, sorry I could not remember your name as I write this.
Have a lovely Monday. Pouring rain in Paris today.

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scarecrow22 · 17/10/2012 21:30

Just noticed all thos digits (each set) add up to four.

Clearly time to lie down (get a life) ;)

somewherebecomingrain · 18/10/2012 09:07

morning all
scarecrow yes - headaches are a big feature of pg for me despite having no diagnosable problems like GD, PE or low iron.
sometimes paracetomol can't get rid of them and then its game over for a day.
ususally it can though.

my DP had a meeting with my cousin's husband who has routes into investment. Cousins husband said my DP was a credible business person and while he won't 'vouch' for him he will introduce him to some wealthy folk on the basis that he's credible.

sigh.

i cooked fish tagine from jamie oliver's 15 minute meals. it took me actually an hour but it was a relaxed, unstressful hour where i felt totally in control of this incredibly simple recipe. it came out well. v colourful. i think it may be my favourite cook book ever. i always go for the easiest recipes and this is like a book in which every recipe is at that level.

this thing about chillies is triggering of buried memories! oh the indignities of childbearing and childrearing. eagleray i was about to suggest adding them in at the last minute then realised how completely dumb i'm being.

really sorry about your pain - that really sucks. i laughed at your description of the boiled egg! love it! you've got to laugh or you'd cry eh (maybe not you but i would).

back to food. my DP loves his English food - so boring - i just want harissa, baba ganoush, satay, sumac, sambal, coconut milk, curry leaves, preserved lemons, aubergine, humus, crushed pistachio, teriyaki, mirin, sake, mint and corinader gingergingerginger, not all at once obviously.

having said that sausages and mash and broccoli and mustard is pretty hard to beat.

Mroldandcobwebby and exexe good luck.

fjord hope youre doing ok - there's some colic going on there it sounds like.

midget hope we get an update soon.

xxx

riversidelibrary · 18/10/2012 17:38

scarecrow I remember being amazed by 12 week scan by how much the LO moved. At one point he seemed to shrug his shoulders, and completely flipped over. Of course back then we didn't know he was a he. Very glad your scan went well.

somewhere I have Jamie's 15 minutes on my Xmas wish list but if you keep on describing the recipes I'm just going to have to buy it for myself early!

AFM no news is good news. My boss popped by the office with her 12 week old son today, which was lovely. So far I've seen him at 2, 6 and 10 weeks, so I'm getting an advance preview of how a new born develops. STILL seems inconceivable that I'm going to be responsible for one of my own in just three months.

eagleray · 18/10/2012 19:29

Scarecrow - glad your scan went well. It's such an amazing thing to see the baby for the first time!

I had some nasty headaches in the first few months, although thankfully not too many. It was quite stressful when I realised that I didn't have access to the usual range of painkillers.

The chillies thing came from when I ate out once with a friend who was BF in the restaurant. All I remember is that someone came up to her and told her she couldn't eat whatever it was on her plate if she was BF. I recall it being chillies, garlic or something like and just assumed it was some sort of well-known fact that certain foods had to be avoided! Well, it's great news if they don't as I can carry on eating my staple of dahl and chillis and don't have to bother with the hassle of finding new recipes

I had a moment of horror at work today - was in a team meeting and when I stood up to go, a couple of women (who are related to my project but have never, ever spoken to before) said "oh my god - look at the size of you! You are massive! When are you due? January? Gosh, but you are massive already!!!" And so on. I was really shocked and 'massively' pissed off so just blocked my bump from their view with my paperwork and said "actually, I don't think I'm that big". They looked a bit awkward then, and tried to make pleasant small talk about babies. What was really funny was that the woman who started it is big (about a size 20) and I'm sure if I had said to her "yes, and you are massive too, and you aren't growing a baby!" then I don't think I would still have a job.

I know everyone gets comments like this and it should be easy to just smile pleasantly and ignore, but I really wasn't in the mood for accommodating rudeness today!

Somewhere - I think you just listed all my favourite foods. I must have eaten a ton of coriander these last few months. Even tried growing it, but it really is the most tiresome, miserable plant to grow!

Hpbp · 18/10/2012 19:36

Eagleray, these people are stupid, rude and have no education. I don't undersand why people allow themselves to make comments on pg women, do they also comment openly on other people's weight ? No they wouldn't, so they should keep their mouth shut when it is about pg women too. But I guess they are too stupid to do so. Don't get angry. Ignore them. They do not deserve your anger. Save your energy for you and the baby. XX

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littleredmonkey · 18/10/2012 19:43

Hi ladies
I AM BACK !!! and I bring along Baby Dylan
Wow what a couple of weeks, I have missed you all and my life will never be the same again. My little guy is perfect. The whole birth was a 19 hour experience. It all went so quick, from being induced on the Tuesday and finding contractions slowly starting in the wee hours, waters broke as DP arrived within 5 mins, and then holy crap contractions from hell. Lets just say I had lots of drugs and then the magic epidural. Only bummer is the drugs somewhere along the line made me vomit and boy did I vomit 5 hours of it, Had to have my nightie cut off due to all the tubes coming out of me. So my initial worrys of covering up I lay there naked and did not care less. The midwfie was a star and so comforting. She pumped me twice with anti sick drugs. They took some blood and found I had some type of infection and my temp was a tad high so had some more drugs. Plus I did not swear once which is a miracle for me with my potty mouth. 18 hours in legs up ready to go head down and ready to push the doctor said she needed to check if he was in distress due to an infection I had she checked twice and they decided emergency C section. Oh well as long as he is ok that is the main thing bless.

Dp was a star the whole time, applying a cold fannel to my head getting me water non stop. talking to me telling what was happening holding my hand. We were so nervous with the c section but it was over so fast. When they removed Dylan he said wow look at all the hair. i was amazed to see so much brown hair. Fluffy little fella. Ended up staying in hospital 8 days due to him losing 10%+ body weight then re weighed again and had lost, worked through 4 days of constant feeding bloody exhausted did not know what was happening . The midwifes were brillant and so glad I had the time to learn how to breastfeed, bath and bed the little guy before I came home. We are all all getting to know to each other and I have not taken off my jim jams for over a week ( yes I have changed them !!! Gross ). The lack of sleep is a challenge and to top if off Saturday I had to go to a&e as my section area was leaking blood and oozing everywhere. It has taken 4 days to stop, I have to change dressings all through the night and my knickers. Pouring thorugh. Had to take antibotics which I have transfered to Dylan so he has a runny bum. Tablets nearly completed and last night was amazed with a 3 hour sleep session.

So glad to be back with you all xxx

scarecrow22 · 18/10/2012 19:50

On chillies, garlic etc., I am not at all aware of any threat to baby's health. I think it is just that a lot of babies get wind and other tummy trouble if they are BF and mummy has eaten rich/spicy food. It must be a bit of a shock. My DD had worst night after I had some relatively mild falafals. She was only couple of weeks old but it put me off Thai curries (fave) - for my sake (crying, sleepless baby not fun) if not hers! A friend ordered something like chilli prawns to her hospital bed after DC3 and baby was fine (she claims!). If true obviously baby-dependent.

I understand women from countries with spicy food eat much milder spices when BF, but this is third hand so I might be wrong. Certainly I think a lot of spicy cuisine is more subtle in the original than some of our Anglicized versions. Yummy though they are

scarecrow22 · 18/10/2012 19:55

Sorry LRM, cross posted. Otherwise I would have said so glad you are back, you sound like you were heroic, and I am glad you have been rewarded with such a perfect little boy. Wow, your joy and daze shines through.
Ignore the world and in a couple of weeks everything will start to seem easier.
Take good care

Hpbp · 18/10/2012 19:57

LRM and family, so happy for you that you are now home. The whole thing has been quite traumatic but you sound very well. Hope yor scar won't bother you anymore and leave you in peace to watch baby Dylan hours after hours, maybe crying ang holding DP's hand, asking yourself how and why did you wait so long to have such a beautiful baby ! Welcome home. Welcome back, we missed you too. Waiting to see you join us in the Grads thread as well.

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eagleray · 18/10/2012 19:59

Awesome to have you back LRM and huge congratulations on the safe arrival of Dylan. Sounds like you have been incredibly brave to cope with all that's happened. I hope everything heals up soon and sending lots of peaceful sleep wishes your way xx

ValiumQueen · 18/10/2012 22:07

LRM welcome back and hello Dylan. Gosh. What a time you have both had! I do hope your wound is soon healed. That is very unfair to have that to contend with after everything else. Hope things soon settle, and you all get some rest x missed you x and very proud of our brave little red monkey x

knottyhair · 19/10/2012 06:17

Welcome back LRM, and hi to Dylan! Sounds like you've really been through the mill, really hope things improve with your scar and you're enjoying lots of cuddles.

knickyknocks · 19/10/2012 09:08

Welcome back LRM and welcome to the world Dylan. Blimey - what a labour story. Sounds like you had a really tough time of it, and that infection post-op sounds just rotten. I hope that you've got plenty of support and help in the next few weeks. Keep those jim-jams on, and enjoy every lovely wonderful second with your beautiful boy.
midgetm I realise it's been a few days and this is far too late but congratulations! Thanks Looking forward to hearing from you again.
eagleray, I've had a similar comment recently and I also wanted to retort the same sort of reply (like, yes, and your arse looks big in that skirt....) but just about managed to bite my lip. Have no idea why people think the second you're pregnant it gives them the right to talk about you and your bump. Why don't they see it as rude?? Grrrrrr!
riverside - only 3 months to go? Gosh, it all seems to be flying by. This may be my second child, but I am still absolutely amazed about what my body is seemingly being able to do - and when I look back at my first, it did seem to slot into place when she was born, so please don't worry about being responsible for the little one when born. Cuddles, milk, love, security is all they need and you'll be wonderful.
somewhere loving the sound of that Jamie book. Going to have to buy one. Was going to give it to DH for christmas, but don't think I can contain myself! Lovely to hear you're feeling better and that at last the sickness is lifting.

AFM, that damn SPD is still niggling away. Had my first physio appointment this week, and it seems that practising my pelvic floors will help. So I'm sat at work with a slightly wistful look on my face as I'm applying my pelvic floors. The things we do.....

Midgetm · 19/10/2012 13:51

Welcome back LRM we have missed you. Only posting quickly as I am so knackered. First bad night with master midget and I am shagged. I am too old for this business.

Sorry you get infected again LRM - that is a real pisser. I was busy telling everyone I should have had a ELCS but not sure if I really mean that or not let's see how how the 2nd degree tear mends first eh?. Feel very jealous of your epidural and really kicking myself that I didn't have one as soon as they burst my bloody waters. Age does not bring wisdom with me. My milk is coming in and my nipples are cracked - I assumed I would find bf easy as done it all before but bloody hell it is harder than I remember. I also need a rubber ring to sit on to save my poor perineum! Still all worth it with the little sniffly boy laying next to me. So good natured, despite having no name still. Right, must pass out x

ValiumQueen · 19/10/2012 14:17

Aww midget I feel for you. Are you slathering your nips with Lanisoh? If not, then do!

I thought my nips would be better second time around, but they were just as sore in the beginning.

One of the girls on my thread was given an epidural before she had her waters broken, and well before the drip was started. She had found the internals too painful and had kicked up a stink, so that is probably why. For some reason that really upset me, and I spoke to DH about it, saying why was that not an option for me? I was not even told how to use the gas and air until the contractions were non stop, and remember being so scared as I could not breathe. He had said I had wanted to do it drug free. Funny how men can remember things do much more clearly.

littleredmonkey · 19/10/2012 14:55

hi
thanks for all your warm wishes on my return. Baby Dylan is sleeping 3 hour sessions now which is great as the first week i must admit out of hospital was a shock. He screams when changing and dressing, between 10 -2 screamed and could not get him to relax. He has turned the corner in week 2. It is very overwelming first couple of weeks. Had both sets of parents around to help with cleaning and baby changing duty. Feel more confident now home and getting use to the little guy, shit myself on the car journey home , got so use to pressing my buzzer by my bed in hospital to ask the midwife random questions. Got brillant tutorial in BF and other stuff. Those ladies still due and expecting baby1 quiz those midwifes to death so glad i did.

Hpbp - sorry to be dim where is the grad thread honey?

Midget - Yeh baby midget , so exciting, sorry you had a few issues labour wise feel for ya. I remember my friend texting me and saying she didnt say before but when your waters break brace yourself love the contractions hurt like a bitch, I only had 10 mins to think about it and my waters broke, she was right, it took 4 hours of me sucking on gas and air before the lovely drugs man arrived. All the months of me waking in the night worrying about the birth seems so distant now

Firstbubba - Welcome Jamie, love the name . Doesn't seem 5 mins since we said OMG we are up the duff, now comes the scarey stuff being a responsible adult ahhhh !!

Hpbp · 20/10/2012 07:43

Good morning, Ladies
It s going to be a very hectic week end so I'd better start with you !
Midget, how is it today ? Has the pain gone a bit ? Lansinoh cream will save your nipples.
LRM, I remember myself calling the HV as soon as I arrived home with DS1 and then I cried when the cot was delivered, then I kept on crying because DS1 was crying.... I did not know at the time that he was just talking to me in his language, where cry does not necessarily mean pain....DH thought I was a bit crazy, even if he never admitted it !
Thinking about Exexe et Oldandcobbwebby too.
VQ, 6 days to go, hey ! Xxxx
Waves to everyone

Ps, LRM, the thread is under Being a parent, Parenting, Fantastic 40+ Mums, I can't link on the iPhone, sorry

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Oldandcobwebby · 20/10/2012 08:22

WARNING! Ancient bloke alert....

Ladies, we have a new graduate from this thread. After a pathetically failed induction, ending with a Bishops score of 0, my DW was taken in for a CS at 3.30 on Friday afternoon, and my overwhelmingly scrumptious, mind-bogglingly beautiful, utterly perfect daughter was in my arms at 4.02. She was some random number of Kg, but 8lb in good old avoirdupois. DW and DD are doing really well.

It has been a long, hard and tearful road to get here. It's all been done without medical intervention, too!

I thought I knew what love was all about with my DW, but gazing into my baby's big blue eyes takes it to a whole new level.

Thank you all for your love and support. I hope that all of you will soon experience the joy DW and I can now share together. It will be worth the wait! xxx

TheNoodles · 20/10/2012 11:28

Sorry for the delay, crazy week at work ... not helped by all these other worries of course. Thanks for advice re leaving baby and telling father ... you're making a lot of sense ladies.

xxx

riversidelibrary · 20/10/2012 11:48

Congratulations oldandcobwebby Thanks Very happy for you both on your lovely blue eyed DD. You bought a tear to my eye describing her! Do keep in touch and let us all know how you're all doing on the graduate thread under Being a parent, Parenting, Fantastic 40+ Mums.

AFM at six months my previously trustworthy bladder is now struggling with the weight of bump and for the first time I had to get up in the dead of the night to visit the bathroom. Goodbye eight hour slumbers, when will I ever see you again?

knottyhair · 20/10/2012 12:23

Another teary eyed reader here Oldandcobwebby. Congratulations to you all, she sounds beautiful xx

Yes riverside, your unbroken sleeps are probably a thing of the past, for a few years at least. I'm nearly 31 wks and managed most nights with just one wee so hopefully you won't be too bad!

Noodles, hope you're OK and work calms down a bit for you soon.

Just got back from taking DS out to brunch - not sure how many more "mummy/son" times we'll fit in before Rosa arrives, what with his busy social calendar. Had a massive bacon sandwich with brown sauce, and quite honestly could easily go another one Blush.

ValiumQueen · 20/10/2012 12:40

oldandcobwebby there is nothing like it. People tell you this, and you think yeah, right! But there truly is nothing like it! Congratulations!

riverside those days are gone, sadly, but as oldandcobwebby has proven, there are better things ahead!

crazyforbaby · 20/10/2012 13:14

Hi All!
Eagleray- Ignore all comments from ignoramuses about your precious Bump-they are just jealous. I hv had my fair share of comments re the same and my generous childbearing hips and I am learning to toss my hair and waddle off with great dignity, thinking 'why don't they just bog off' and then having a little cry in the loo later on Blush the other day a male work colleague came over waggling his fingers in a sleazy, letchy way. He said 'you don't mind if I cop a feel of your bump do you? I just love the feeling of Life growing' - to which I replied sweetly 'Only if u don't mind me stabbing you with this pen in my hand'. He jumped back and said there was no need for me to 'act like that', but um, yes there was. Grin
Knickyknocks-So sorry to hear abt your SPD - I too am a sufferer. They hv a v v different way of treating it here in Canada. In the UK I was given the support belt, crutches and a few exercises and left to get on with it. Here, the physios HATE crutches and actively stretch out your legs (need to take painkillers then), but the results are amazing. I cannot climb stairs , but my mobility is so much better this time round! They recommend the book 'relieving pelvic pain' by Cecile Rost (I bought it on Amazon) which has all the exercises to do at home.
Midget-well done with persevering with the bf-ing ... Those early days are tough. I always ask a midwife to watch me everytime I put the baby on the boob in the hospital, just to plague em with questions, as every baby is different and I hv had mastitis with two of the lil darlings - aaargh!

LRM- sounds like u r doing great-happy that u still sound so positive! I love the name Dylan-it would've been my no 1 choice if we hv a boy, except my cousin got in there and chose it for her boy first Envy

Oldandcobwebby-thank you for making us all stop andgo 'Ahhh'...hope u are keeping a diary abt these early days with your daughter. You have such a lovely way with words, you could get it published. The birth rate is v v low here in Canada, with women refusing to have babies, mainly due to cost/ effect on their careers, so they look at us as if we are crazy for having a big family-but I wouldn't change it for the world! Congrats again x

OK my sleep deprived gabbing has now come to an end. Our poor dog has got something wrong with his paw - I slept downstairs with him last night and we are going to the V-E-T this morning. I won't be able to lift him up on the table as he is a Lab/Rottie cross-> gigantic! I am off work sick, with a work-related injury...trying to make sure they don't try to push me into taking early Mat Leave, when this is a sick issue. Have a good weekend all x

Hpbp · 20/10/2012 15:37

Agree with Crazyforbaby regarding Odlandcobwebby's style. It is indeed very beautiful, we can tell you are already in love with your daughter, truly and madly ! Who said French was the language of love ?
Anyway, congrats to your DW, Oldandcobwebby. Enjoy fatherhood and come back to let us know how you are doing.
Riverside, hope you'll get one of those good sleeper babies. But it is very true, unbroken nights are over for a while, but you are not alone. We will all be on MN even in the middle of the night, don't worry.

Running everywhere to get things for a perfect birthday for DS1 next Wed, and preparing Anastasia's christening in 2 weeks time ! Under a shower of rain....

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riversidelibrary · 21/10/2012 19:42

Hello all, how did your weekends go?

I had a wonderful moment yesterday when I saw my belly move with a proper kick for the first time. Felt like it was the first time I'd seen my little one and I was over the moon for ages. Makes all the little problems pale into insignificance. Smile