Any pregnant Type 1 diabetics?

[dieciocho]

Hi,
I'm looking for other pregnant Type 1 diabetics in London, just to have someone to keep in contact with and share advice/horror stories/support each other etc.
I don't actually know anyone at all with Type 1, despite having had it myself since 1989

Last night I had a Crunchie. Tested before and it was 6 tested after and it was 6.8

Just had a burger and chips pub lunch for a mate from work's leaving do. Scared to test....

My DNS always says as long as you know what made it high it's OK it's if you don't know why that it's a problem, and I'm sure the burger and yummy chunky chips were worth it!

Had another ante-natal appointment this morning and was forced to see a dietician.
My breakfast ratio is roughly 4u - 10g and then roughly 1u - 10g for the rest of the day.
She proudly told me about another formula that is used to work out insulin - carb. ratios, then worked "mine" out and told me I shouldn't be giving myself such a high dose at breakfast! What?
If I did lower doses for a normal-sized breakfast, my 1-hour-after-breakfast reading would be off the scale; I showed her my diary.
Why, oh why do these people insist that they know better than us?

On the plus side, my bp is 120/70 and bump's heart rate is 149

My ratio's similar to yours dieciocho so glad I don't have to see a dietician!

Hi all,

Anyone have any ideas for me? I am testing during the night (around 2-4am) and am getting readings of between 4.5 and 6. When I wake up though (around 8.30/9am) the results are around 9.1 to 10.0. I take Lantus at 10pm, 22 units and wondered what I should do? Should I be upping my tea time Novorapid? I am normally around 6 before bed though so don't really want to be much lower than that or should I be upping my Lantus?

thanks in advance

x

newbie I don't know in afraid but others here are more knowledgeable!

Before dinner I was 10 always put me in a bad mood

It sounds like dawn phenomenon tbh, caused by hormones racing around you just before you wake up.

Not sure what the answer is, maybe a v small correction, depending on how quickly it takes to act and how long it lasts?

I'm say awake at this time as have bloody taken my long acting twice :-( scared and annoyed

Newbie, I'd say it's Dawn Phenomenon, so if it were me, I'd split my Lantus (I had the same situation in 1st trimester, now split and seem much better.
I tested at 3am this morning, was 4.6, but then 5.9 when I got up at 7am : ) )
Alternatively, give yourself 1 or 2u of fast-acting in the middle of the night.

Oh Puds, how crappy. Just test, test, test and DON'T have a nap!!!

Rubbish puds sort of thing I'd do!

I got my next diabetic retinopathy screening appointment through they could only do 9:30am which has annoyed me as it gives me a headache for the rest of the day and I can't even sleep because I have dd to look after!

DH let me sleep in. Had half a bottle of Lucozade at 4.30: no effect. Two slices of toast + other half of bottle finally got me up, but of course too far. However after 3 hours was 11 - not too, too bad considering. I bloody hate this sometimes. X

newbie - I agree the problem is dawn phenomenon. Don't increase your Novorapid for dinner - that dose of insulin lasts for 4 hours maximum and is NOT going to make any difference to what is happening 12 hours + in the future. It sounds like you have your dinner Novorapid correct and that you are going to bed at a good level, as well as staying at a good level through the night.

The fact that you are still at a good level through the night to me suggests your Lantus is also correct. If you were to split it, I don't think that would necessarily solve that problem. If you split it you would be taking less at night before going to bed, which to me would suggest that the overnight readings would start to creep up... Taking lantus when you wake up is not going to address your high readings in the morning...

To be honest - and unfortunately - I think you probably have to set your alarm earlier. If you wake at 6 or 7, and take one or maybe two units of Novorapid, then go back to sleep until your normal getting up time I think you'll find that you stop that rise of 3 or 4mmol you are seeing. Dawn phenomenon is a bummer and there is very little that you can do to stop it if otherwise your levels are good during the night. HTH.

puds what a bummer. At least it was only the long acting you took twice. A couple of times (and thank god I've noticed) I've taken 20 units of Novo before bed instead of 20 units of Levemir. Now that is scary!!

Bona - that is my actual living nightmare!!!!!!! What did you do?!

Has anyone tried milk for hypos? How do you find it works? Is there really healthy but that honestly does the truck like the dreaded Lucozade?

I've never used Lucozade; the colour really puts me off!
I have used a glass of milk with a spoonful of sugar mixed in a few times and that seems to work...

puds - I drank an entire carton of fruit smoothie - the packet conveniently told me that 1 litre contained 20g carbs which was what I needed!

I find milk works fine for me, orange juice is another great one which I often use. Lucozade works very quickly but it is sooo carby that I invariably go high afterwards because I glug it down.

Something like a slice of toast works fine for me, too, and is probably better for you than lucozade!

I don't like Lucozade (though have used it a few times, needs must and all that!). I normally use the individual glucogel things, or 4x jelly babies or 4x wine gums - all of those are 15g carbs and work pretty well. I try and have a drink with them, just water or fruit juice, as it seems to make the carbs work quicker.

What does everyone else use to treat hypos? Am wondering if there are other options...

Mars bars

No, I find the smallest cartons of pure apple juice the best. Only 2/3 needed though really. Or dextrose tablets.

When out and about I use lucozade orange tablets - they are nice and 4-5 tablets does the trick.

Otherwise, whatever I have to hand. At the moment I'm just being quite strict on amounts so that I don't go overboard as I don't want to end up high afterwards. So, one twix finger instead of both or whatever [hblush]

rue - if you are having fruit juice as well, do you count that into your 15g? Fruit juice has a lot of (albeit natural) sugar so if I had that on top of my 15g I would end up high afterwards!

Depends on the hypo, severe ones (below 3) need about 25g carbs to come out of so I tend to have the fruit juice then, as the extra.

I don't really like dextrose, glucotabs have a raspberry flavour I think which isn't too bad, either that or cherry, can't remember! They generally taste too powdery and I find them really hard to get down me, esp when I'm low and rather bolshy at the time

Yeah, me neither; any of those tablet-type things are vile. I haven't' used them since I was first diagnosed and my parents were told they were the only thing.

I use jelly sweets, honey, tea/milk with sugar in. Nothing too unnatural-looking/tasting!
I use chocolate from time to time (it's obviously my preferred option), but the fat slows down the absorption of the sugar.

Mmmm golden syrup is a yummy one!

I used to keep squirty tubes of condensed milk in the cupboard, except I'd just eat them so had to stop!

I don't use chocolate as I find it takes ages to work and I get worse before I get better.

Currently sat in mat ward with ++2 keytones after 2 days of frustrating highness. Bloody fed up!!! What should I expect?