Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

haha calamityJ people keep saying that to me too. 15 weeks now and although its better than it was I'm still having some really bad days. Eating seems a little easier but more of it seems to make a reappearance but maybe thats just cos I'm eating more than I was??

Ondansetron making me feel pretty dreadful (blown up like a balloon and so constipated and horrific indigestion). I did have horrific indigestion in my last pregnancy but I'm sure not til a little bit later. I only have a v v small bump but I feel as I'm full term!! Anyway tried to minimise the meds but then feel terrible today :-( DD1 wet the bed at 4am then felt so sick once I'd dealt with that I couldnt get back to sleep.

Think I'm gonna revert back to the full dose of phenergan for a few days and see if I can't get some relief. Any ideas anyone?

Take3, maybe it's a boy this time? Or do you already have a mixture? My mum had it too and found my brother easier.

Horseynewmum thanks for the moisturising tip, on top of everything else I want to rip my skin off most days. Shame i can't fill the bath with moisturiser :/

I feel like ive been doing better the last couple of days but today I haven't managed anything except crisps :(

Hi everyone, I'm not pregnant and hope you don't mind me posting. I suffered horrible HG with both my pregnancy, much much worse second time round, so much so we have decided not to have any more children. I am so thankful for my wonderful DC but am sad that I will never know what is like to enjoy pregnancy. As someone who has been there I can say it does get better. Your not alone and it's ok to be miserable cause HG sucks. Your baby is worth all this. Sending lots of support x

Kaolla, we have twin girls and then a boy.... so hope not more twins, that would be crazy. Felt a bit better these last couple of days and longing to get to 12 weeks.

Had scan and all fine despite the cramping pains from a few nights ago. Tried to stop taking meds today (11+4) but not good result so will be back on tomorrow. Cried all day today as feeling ridiculously sorry for myself. Can't remember last time I had a happy day. Hopefully should be beginning to feel better soon though.

Best eating day yet! 2 bowls of Bran Flakes which I've not been able to stand since week 5. Then 2 poached eggs on 2 bits of toast. Then a full roast dinner at 5pm! Now the cyclizine has moved my worst part of the day to the evening I figure I should front load my meals & stop before 6pm when the sickness really kicks in. Could puke right now but so tired from disturbed sleep last night (DH coming home drunk from birthday night out...) I think I'll just crash out instead. Really hoping I've turned the corner. Still felt sick all day but bearable rather than horrendous.

Calamity Drunk DH, tut, tut, I hope he had a hangover...I'm good and about those Dir's not having an inkling about HYperemesis being different from normal MS. Bran flakes, ugh, well done! Hugs about that 'Puke Right Now' feeling, so foul. I remember drinking that syrup from tinned fruit, I should have remembered to recommend it!
Pink Thanks for lovely message of support. Two is a nice number, anyway.
Tay Poor you, I'm sure you've tried those pessaries you can insert, without success. Kali on here had to resort to that bowel rinsing out apparatus you can get, I think, form chemists (foul, but it worked).
Katolla Poor you, skin trouble too, I used butter cream based creams myself, incredibly escaped any stretch marks too, but when you're feeling really awful it doesn't seem to matter.
Wdobbs I hope feeling a bit better? Plastic I hope you are OK? It's awful you had to have some IV treatment.
TakeYou are only the second person on the thread with twins!(I am not sure when MrsD is due). That must have been awful, though...Glad you feel a bit better.
Thinking of everyone. I mentioned MOH on my blog as one of the people I particularly admire, for starting the pregnancysicknesssos website...
Hugs to anyone who wants them.
Lucinda
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Silly me andl links.

Lucinda
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This is a joke! Oh, well, it'll give people a laugh.
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Lucinda
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Goodness, just relaised, I didn't mean that the website is a joke, I meant that my IT skils are...
Lucinda
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Hello all
wash sorry you are miserable, you will have better days soon I'm sure ((hugs))

calamity yay for the food, incidentally I had bran flakes too today and they have stayed put!

Thanks for the clucking lucinda it means a lot I'm ok, I had a pretty good few days until I got a cold on Sunday which zapped me a bit. Hopefully recovered now though, and just one puking day out of the past 6 days. I'm 37 weeks this week, so it is officially 'operation evict baby' time

Wow what a terrible day today. You think you're turning a corner & it comes & socks you one out of left field! Fingers crossed for you LittleGold you're on the home straight! I did giggle at Lucinda's IT skills. Don't worry we knew what you meant

Hi everyone can I join? I've found reading your messages really supportive.
I am 9 weeks- 3rd week signed of work due to HG. Really bad day yesterday

Plus I just had to shove gently remove my lovely cat from my knee as she started to clean herself. Wet cat smell, nooooo!

I feel so upset that I feel so rubbish, me & DH were TTY for over 2 years. And now I can't even be pleased coz I am so sick.

Plus worried about twins (strong family history- not of it good).

Worry worry worry basically.
Plus I like my boss & he is covering all my work & I feel really guilty.

Emotional roller coaster

Oops ttc

Hi newbies, I've been away so haven't caught up with posts. i'm 'enjoying' life as a single mother while DH away at a conference, but DD packed off to nursery this morning thank goodness.

milktraylady welcome and commiserations. God it's crap isn't it, I know that's not very eloquent, but there arent really any redeeming features of this godawful illness. It's doubly hard for those who were TTC for such a long time, i do sympathise. For me it was predictable (family history) and I conceived right away so I didn't have the desperate dissapointment of a crap pregnancy - in fact I thought mine was extra good because I managed to stay out of hospital and I could get out of bed during the first trimester, in my family that's classed as glowing. My secret? Ondansetron. If you haven't already got some, try to. Do you have any meds at all? It depends how rubbish or otherwise your GP is but we can give you tips on getting some if they refuse. For a start, have a look at sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/treatments/obtaining-treatment-1

I'm afraid though the bad news is that there is no medication in existence that will let you go back to work as normal until much later in the pregnancy. 9 weeks is peak horror time and it does take a few weeks/months to abate. The other only 'treatment' that works is rest - complete, total, don't move a muscle rest. It's great that your boss is covering for you, not so great that you feel guilty about it, but you really have no choice. I'm sure you'd much rather be feeling ok and be at work. I rationalised it that by resting I was making it more likely that i'd be able to get back to work at some point and actually be useful. You can't help it, you didn't ask for this illness, it's not your fault, it's just life. If your boss was ill you'd cover for him. And there is nothing worse for HG than trying to soldier on, you will relapse badly. Most of us have made that mistake. repeatedly.

Thanks moh
Gathering up the energy to have a shower.

Is anyone else affected by smells?
Pre preg I had a very good sense of smell/taste- chocolate raster for Cadbury & wine taster etc.
Now I can smell - according to DH- a nats fart!
I wonder how many parts per million I can actually smell- cannot open the fridge, kitchen bin is now in the garage, no kissing. Argh this is horrible.

I want to fast forward!

GP is lovely, had just referred us for fertility assessment then got pg

She's prescribed cytrazine (can't spell it) but too scared to take it in case
1- does harm
2- makes me feel worse & I can't handle that.
Prob irrational but all my brains are now cotton wool!

Hi milktraylady, sorry you are feeling terrible
Already lots of great words of wisdom from MOH, and I second what she said about 9 weeks being the peak of grimness so cling to the fact that you (hopefully) wont feel any worse than you do now.
I think all of us on here have taken a range of medications, try not to worry about safety- they have all been thoroughly tested and shown to be safe. MOH mentioned ondansetron, that was certainly the only one that helped me.
Yy to the sense of smell, it's horrific. For a few weeks I remember not being able to stand the smell of our (clean) kitchen sink- the smell of steel was so strong to me !

katolla calamity and everyone, hope you are having better days?

I've just prepared a little bag of teeny baby clothes for the home birth box, so excited to be nearing the end. I can't wait to not be pregnant anymore (and have the baby of course)!

*milktray) how awful, you already had a strong sense of smell, now it's off the scale. I once had to phone my next door neighbour to come round and take some soup out of the fridge to dispose of it, I couldnt' leave the living room because I could smell it in the hall, through the fridge door, and the kitchen door. Good question about ppm, my research is in detection of aroma molecules using a very sensitive mass spec. I'd love to do a comparison study with pregnant women.

As for meds safety, as littlegold says, there's loads of data see sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/research/medications. And if something makes you feel worse, just stop taking it. It does happen, some things just don't agree with you. I would really recommend the meds, if you end up dehydrated and on a drip, they give you them in hospital anyway, you may as well take them beforehand and maybe prevent needing to be admitted. The experts don't bat an eyelid when they prescribe you meds, the benefits so outweigh the risks - if there even are any risks.

lucinda thanks was managing ok for a few days but seem to be going back downhill. Is it possible to become immune to ondansetron??? Luckily it's managing to contain the vomiting to a few times a day unfortunately not the nausea

I am having severe cramps presumably from the ondansetron constipating me and I have massive excess saliva problems - anyone any tips on helping this?!

milktraylady im also 9 weeks, 10 on Friday if it's any consolation I'm right there with you, my worst smell is my kids - how shameful is that! And i cant even tolerate going into a room in my house, i can't shower - 2 times a week max and I can't stand in it I have to sit on the base the hot water & standing makes me sick, lucky this is my third time and I know what I can & can't tolerate in advance, if it's cyclizine you have it never works for me until I'm out of the worst of it around 18 wks I can only manage on cyclizine alone then - if it's not working to back to your gp.

I have a 2hr booking in & scan on Friday, which means I have to sit on a chair upright for 2hrs. Dreading this! Also plagued with guilt for all the meds & worried about effects at the min ... I know

Have to stop watching one born every minute has me in floods!

Hope everyone is ok

wdobbs I think you're probably reaching the peak and ondansetron's struggling to cope with hormone surge. Once you ride out the peak it'll probably improve. In the meantime throw everything in the medicine cabinet at the constipation and keep on top of it - if that's not too disgusting an image to conjure up. I was taking fybogel prophylactically for most of the pregnancy, even when I wasn't actually constipated, a psychiatrist friend recommended taking it even if you don't think you need it. A lot of antipsychotic drugs casue constipation so her patients have problems with it and that's what she prescribes. Good luck for your scan, is someone going with you to help hold you up?

Hi Milktraylady. So sorry to hear you have joined us. I am just over 8 weeks, third pregnancy (got twin girls and then a boy) and I too am worried about twins. Twins first time is not bad though (once they are out). I really would try the Cyclizine - did not work well for me in the first 2 pregnancies but amazingly working this time - it really has improved my quality of life and if safe to take - our 3 turned out fine and I have taken so much medication in pregnancy.
Just so sorry you have to suffer. I keep trying to look to very little positives, like the fact we have medical care, and I know if we had no children then I would be longing to feel sick and have a baby. Not much help, but keep on keeping on, it really does pass.

Anyone have low iron? I am breathing very rapidly and feeling extremely tired and dizzy (could that just be the Cyclizine though?). Not got midwife app until week 10.5.

MOH your right cant see the woods for trees, I feel much better armed with this theory thank you hopefully things will start to improve for me soon, husband will be with me watching me squirm around trying to sit properly!

take3 I would get episodes of feeling very weak and lightheaded & given how unwell you have been too its possible like me that your blood pressure falls it makes you feel awful for a while when I'm feeling sick like that I tend to hyperventilate a little which would make you breathe a little more rapidly - lie down & put your feet up & see if that helps - if it's happening often go see your doctor - maybe you should bring forward your midwife appointment and get checked out you don't have to wait if you feel you want to see her sooner. Feel better

Thanks for your support everyone it means alot to me.
I am having a private scan on sat, as I can't wait until the nhs week 13 scan.
Will find out then ifs bogof, so to speak.

Gonna try the meds with dinner tonight, fingers crossed.

wdobbs and milktray really empathising with what you are both saying. Smells were awful for me - I was sick without fail every time I had to go near the fridge. Our house is open plan and I actually developed a bit of a fear of coming downstairs at all. At one point DH was making meals in the garage with the slow cooker plugged in out there. The thing I felt most sad about though was not being able to stand the smell of DH and DD - just their ordinary smell which normally I would really like and find a real comfort. Even worse if I could smell food on them. However it does get better ladies - I still have to hold my breath when I open the fridge and have not attempted any cooking yet (15 weeks) BUT DH is now allowed to sleep in our room again and I am back to enjoying my hugs with DD1.

Would totally agree with everyone about meds too - it can be scary to take them esp. in your 1st pregnancy. My DD1 was big bouncing and healthy despite HG and meds 1st time around. This time I am taking phenergan (similar to cyclizine) and ondansetron which have given me some of my life back and enabled me (with help) to look after DD1. Something I felt incredibly guilty about not doing when I was very poorly.