Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

Lucinda that's a beautiful picture - I love it! Thank you for the hugs - they do help!

Wash so glad things have been better again - another "good" day today I hope.

Kali not long between us at all - I'll be 35 weeks on Friday. I finish work next Tuesday - can't wait not to have a 2hr plus commute each way! I have been lucky with the vomiting stopping until a couple of weeks back. Would love to say the nausea went too but sadly not, although I'll take what I can get when it comes to hyperemisis! Haven't managed to ease off on the cyclizine and ondansetron either sadly - by this point last time around I could sometimes manage on one cyclizine a day. Ah those were the days! Lol at your tutee and her hasty backtracking! I can honestly say from my point of view that compared to HG giving birth was a breeze!

Well that's encouraging about the birth barmee. Apparently also bad SPD makes a nice quick second (pushing) stage more likely, because it's all sort of eased apart already! People keep telling me that I "deserve" a straightforward birth after all this, but then life isn't necessarily fair is it! Lucinda I don't think I can have a water birth unfortunately, nice as that would be, because they only have that in the MLU and I think I have to be on the labour ward because of all the probs I've had, though I'll check that with them at the hospital.

I am still taking cyclizine (and ranitidine) too, also stemetil sometimes. I haven't gone back on either the metoclopramide or the ondansetron because the side effects were so unpleasant and the benefit relatively minimal for me so they don't seem worth it. I suppose I might have to if the vomiting really increases but I hope not. For now I am trying to cope by eating little and often and resting when I can.

How are you today washngo? I'm afraid I can't remember how far along you are. If it's still quite early, please don't be too disheartened by barmee and I still chucking up right at the end. We do seem to be the exception rather than the rule. And even so it's a lot better and more manageable than it was in the first five months.

Sorry I've not been on for ages. Have finished work and seem to be either busy or asleep! Saw consultant today and I'll be induced on 22nd Oct. Very exciting. Just wondering, anyone else had 2 inductions? ( I was induced with DD) is the second one likely to be quicker process? Any thoughts or experience appreciated. Hope that you are all coping. Love to all . xx

Thanks LucindaE for your concern.... I'm back and pleased to announce that all is well with baby.
After the bleeding and the sickness eased, I saw the midwife who sent me for a scan. I was right about me being huge - she said she would guess from size of uterus that I was 19-20 weeks (but I was 10 +3 then).... so, as predicted, she sent me for scan on Monday. I went alone as DH had our 3 children and was so nervous. I was pretty sure I had not miscarried as the sickness returned in full force after 3 days of it being much better. Strange that I was thrilled about it returning. Anway, pleased to report one happy looking baby. I just could not do twins again, my body would not cope and having 5 children....! No thanks.

New problem.... I have a constant swaying/bouncing/rocking on boat sensation and it is really getting me down. Had this in last pregnancy for 6 weeks, perhaps a viral ear thing? Or Mal de debarquement (though not travelled anywhere, the symptoms fit exactly with this).

My evenings are me and the sick bowl but day time a bit better.
Hope everyone is hanging in there.

Well I've just been violently sick and pretty much filled the bowl (thankfully handily still kept next to the sofa as I'd never have made it to the bathroom on time!) Had a really stressful hectic day at work and a rubbish commute home-left work at 5.30, got in at 7.45- so hoping its just all of that catching up with me as I had hoped I was back to just being nauseous again. Ah well.

Take glad it was good news :) Funny how we can somehow take reassurance from being so horribly ill!!

Goldie hardly any time at all till you meet your new baby-how exciting!

Barmee Oh dear, that is horrible, I'm sure the horrible commute didn't help, lucky it didn't happen on the train! More hugs on offer when required. I'm glad you're finishing work and liked the baby picture. These innnocents who cause such misery...
Take I didn't know you started bleeding too, how nerve racking. But it's lovely that baby is fine. Those cosy evenings spent in conversation with the sick bowl don't sound a whole lot of fun, I do hope they ease off soon. What meds did you say you were on?
Kali What a shame about water birth, but that sounds great about the pelvis bieng readied by spd, the fisrt good thing I've heard about it. I don't understand these youths being embarrassed by pregnancy, but not by sex.

Washngo How are you now?
Goldie Lovely to hear from you, rest as much as you can.
Hope Everyone is OK. Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.
Lucinda
xx

barmee the sickest I've been recently was also after a really long day at work and at the end of the week. We ordered a takeaway last Friday to celebrate having got through induction week, and some good news DP had just had, and I threw it all straight up again. Was an incredibly lavish vomit and I was quite cross at the complete waste of all the food! Anyway, I reckon tiredness is a really big factor. I seem to have the best chance of retaining my supper if we eat quite early. Maybe it won't happen for you again now that you're nearly finished work and can get some more rest?

I am working from home today, quite a relief as am shattered and pelvis very bad. Also have caught a cold - almost inevitable at the beginning of the autumn term but still annoying! And teaching with a sore throat is always a bit grim. Still, I have no classes now till Monday morning so a few days to recover.

Baby seems to get stronger every day. He is going crazy in there at the moment, my stomach is constantly rippling and yesterday he kicked DP very hard!

I'm just on Cyclizine... amazingly seems to have a made a difference this time - just takes the edge of it. I lived off Ondansetron in my last pregnancy and hated the side effects... so v keen to stay off it this time. 12 weeks on Monday so really excited about this improving... just hope it does.

I wonder if Hyperemesis is somehow linked with wriggly babies? DD1 was so active she had me in tears sometimes just wishing she would keep still. Mind you as I wrote that I realised even at 3.5 nothing has changed!! Did anyone else have big babies too? DD1 was 9.5lbs - nothing short of a miracle. Again she is still tall and big for her age ....my grandma says she is 'a good doer'.

I too am much more likely to be able to eat supper and keep it down if I eat early. I've started eating at 5.30pm with DD1 and poor husband eats alone although he's usually on some crazy shift anyway.

take3 I'm sure it is going to be better for you. At 19 weeks I feel way better than I did at 12. Just don't cut down the meds too early. I gave up on ondansetron too because the side effects were awful but have continued with the phenergan. For the 1st time I wasn't sick in the morning yesterday so decided to try cutting down tablets again - big mistake. This morning I was sick through my nose which then resulted in a nosebleed. What a pleasant day to start the day!!! Not complaining though - feel very lucky to be generally feeling a lot better!

Agree that the sickness is worse with tiredness, that's always been my biggest trigger.
Glad you are feeling a bit better Tay, probably wise that you don't stop the meds yet though.
How's things Kali? Are you still having some sick-free days?

It's my due date today
However, this past five days has been horrific really, sick 3or 4 times a day and generally nauseous the whole time. And with the knowledge that I could've been induced last week! I'm so hoping I don't go too far over, in fact I don't think I will let myself- even having come this far I will probably ask to be induced at 41 weeks - I can only put up with so much!

Plastic Just dashing on to say your due date, wow! Congratulatinos on coming so far. I do so hope baby comes out naturally, and soon, poor you, it is too bad the way the Hyperemesis wouldn't go, like an unwelcome guest! Of course, it's hung around getting every ounce of torture taht it possibly can out of you, Barmee Kali and others.
Mine was a wriggly baby, and eight pounds seven, not quite such a whopper as some of you have had!

Hi guys. I hope you are all doing well.
How supportive has your workplace been?
I'm wondering because I had three weeks off in August/september as holiday as I got married. On my honeymoon the hyperemesis started. Needless to say I have had another three weeks off sick and my GP has signed me off for another month. He said if things improve I can go back sooner, but who knows right?
I'm almost 12 weeks so I'm hoping things are going to settle down.
My HG has been so severe and debilitating, I've been in hospital on fluids and IV vitamins, tried three anti emetics, currently taking cyclizine and ondansetron three times a day; had to move in with my parents so my mum could care for me (Im 32 years old ffs!)I couldn't move wash myself or do anything (my poor new husband was left on his own); I wet myself everytime I vomited; if I ate I vomited if I didn't eat I vomited, all I did was vomit vomit vomit; I wanted to either die or have a termination... I'm sure you know the feelings?
The meds have settled it slightly but having lost 13% of my body weight I'm very weak.
Anyway my manage phoned me. She was very cross with me for not informing her sooner if I thought I would be off longer ( this was three days before my next shift). I had only been doctors the day before and I didn't know he'd sign me off another month, when I told her she was not best pleased at all. She cut off the conversation and hung up! That's the short of it but I was very very upset!
I sent my new husband into work straight away with my drs letter, I cried to him "you tell her I've been so ill I wanted a termination!"
Luckily he didn't but she did apologise to him (not to me) and said she was under pressure with lots of staff being off sick (not my problem!)
Anyway I know I have vented a bit here but I know you all understand where I'm coming from, I would not wish HG on anybody (maybe my manager but that's it lol).

This thread is very long but reading back a few posts, Washngo, I'm sending you huge sympathetic hugs. I do hope it eases off soon but don't be afraid to keep going back to the doctor, you may feel better for a hospital admission and iv fluids to get out the cycle. Xxx

Glossy Flower, so sorry to hear how awful your manager has been. People just do not understand how awful it is.... the work problems add more stress to an already terrible situation. When I was working (first pregnancy), my Head of Dept was very understanding, though I still felt so guilty about it. When you say how sick you have been, people just DO NOT understand... I often got 'yes, I felt queasy the whole time too'.. Today I had 'have you tried travel bands?'... WHAT???!!! 'or ginger'?!!!!!
You have done so well to get this far, it is such an awful thing to deal with... it really does come to an end.

Thank you TAY for your encouraging words. I can't wait til I'm 19 weeks! Yes, I had big babies... twins were 6.6 lb and 6.7lb at 36 weeks and our ds was 10lb at 39 weeks.
The severe sickness also seems to be with spd, I can't put any weight on my left leg this eve so hobble to the loo like I'm 90.

Glossy - thank you for the hugs sympathy always much appreciated! Poor you with work not being sympathetic, really does not help you feel better if you're worrying about that sort of thing too :( My school was understanding, but I know at least half the staff secretly thought I was being a drama queen. Trouble is they don't see you when you're feeling so ill and weak you can hardly move. Maybe try sending them an email link to one of the hyperemesis websites so they could read about it?

GlossyflowerWelcome, poor you, Hyperemesis on your honeymoon, that is jsut too bad. It's awful at any time, but...I am so about the dreadful attitude of your self-centred manager, totally insensitive, she ought to try it - I'm trying not to wish it on her - and see if she could drag herself into work. Don't let it get you down, you mustn't try and stagger back into work before you are ready and the doctor wouldn'thave signed you off for nothing, as that manager should know. Thirteen per cent of body weight is a lot. Take heart, things do get better for most people sometime betwen fourteen weeks and twenty weeks - some women Barmee and Kali and Plastic have had this awful experience, suffer throughout but even they aren't nearly as ill as they were when they were in and out of hospital in the first tri. Has the puking stopped? I'm sure you have kesosticks to hand to check on levels of ketones if it comes back...Those wet knickers are a pest, I got to be an expert at whipping mine off, and not in the expectation of anything more enjoyable than my head down the loo...
Take Ten lbs? Ouch! Oh no, about spd.
Washngo I hope puking still holding off? Tay How are things? As others say, and as above, all is most likely to start improving soon.
Cyber hugs to all.
I hope Plastic joins the Pink Castle at the end of the Hyperemesis treck soon.
Lucinda
xx

Quiet on here the last couple of days. Hope everyone is ok. Plastic, you're so nearly there! Very jealous! How is everyone?

I'm not sleeping at all well now due to SPD and have a permanent feeling of bile rising in my throat, which is not pleasant, but haven't been sick again lately, just feeling very nauseous. Keep getting pains under my bump and in my back but sadly think it's just the spd and not the start of anything (although still only 35+3 so would be good if bump stayed put for just a little while longer). Last day at work tomorrow. Can't wait!

barmee I was prescribed ranitidine right at the beginning of my pregnancy and have found it very helpful for the increasingly bad reflux/hearburn in the last couple of months. I take it twice a day every day now and it definitely helps. It doesn't help directly with the nausea/sickness but I do find that the heartburn makes the nausea worse so it helps indirectly. The effect lasts much longer than just taking an antacid. Worth asking the GP about?

I know what you mean about the SPD/sleeping problem. I hardly slept at all last night and am now blearily at work, about to teach a two-hour class. 32+3 and counting the days!

Forgot to ask - any sign of the baby plastic?

Kali thanks for the tip - I'll try and call my GP this afternoon and hope they might prescribe it...

Well I've reached a new low -DH has just had to pull/push/heave/lift me up the stairs as every "step" caused shooting pains through my pelvis and I couldn't lift my left leg off the floor to get it onto the next step. I thought HG was humiliating but that was a whole new level . The pain has made me feel very sick now (well, sicker!) and I just want to cry. And I didn't manage to phone the dr as Kali suggested so going to have to try that tomorrow. Only one more day of work to get through...

Big hugs to you barmee. Where would we be without our lovely families to help us?
Every day I say to my mum, "what would I do without you?" My mum is the most amazing woman I have ever ever known. I couldn't even begin to tell you. She just says "that's what your baby will say to you".
Try and get the ranitidine, it will really help.
plastic I'm looking forward to hearing about your new baby. Hope you have now found relief from the sickness.
How's things now with you washngo?
Can you tell I've only just learned how to use the bold?! Lol
As far as my HG goes, I am afraid to get my hopes up but I think it's improving. Before when I vomited, I would really vomit every last drop of whatever was in my stomach but the past few days I've been retching with food in my stomach and I manage to not bring it up at all or just a little.
I'm getting stronger, yesterday I even drove myself to my 12 week scan and popped to the shop. It did knacker me out but another first in a while.
Somebody had mentioned if they thought there may be a link between HG and wriggly babies. Now I'm only 12+1 on first pg but I think I might be able to feel little movements already. I don't know if its possible but it feels like little air bubbles. I am quite bloated from gas as it is but this feels very different. So I may have a naughty little wriggler.
Take care everyone.
Oh about my manager, a friend from work told me the manager had said she thought they ought to send me some flowers as I must be feeling neglected! Must be a guilty conscience!

Oh Glossy poor you, you are right in the throws of it and with an unsupportive boss . Try not to think about work, the stress will make things worse.

Barmee, definate.y try to get ranitidine or omeprazole for the acid, as Kali said it indirectly helps relieve nausea.

No baby yet, this is now officially my latest baby and have been puking everyday for the past week. Come on baby!

I also wanted to say that my cousin is a week further along than me.
With my HG I know it's possible I have a multiple pg, however I do not its a single. My cousin who is same age as me has two children 8 and 10 had announced she's expecting TWINS!
I was very silly about it and felt very upset she was having twins and I wasn't. Having HG I've decided that I'm not going through with any more pgs and early on I hoped I was having twins so my baby wouldn't be an only child like me. At least if I had twins there was some sort of explanation for me going through this illness.
I cried all day! Silly me I know.
My cousin has suffered some pregnancy sickness but nothing severe. And bless her when she had the scan, she was so shocked at finding out it was twins they had up take her into another room to calm down. She only wanted one, only planned for one and refused to take home a scan picture.
She's so organised and meticulous in what she was planning she had even gone out and bought a buggy and car seat which now she's giving to me because she needs to buy for two.
Isn't it strange how things work out?

No baby yet plastic?! You are very nearly there though, good luck I will be thinking of you x