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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

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Bubblebell1 · 23/04/2012 15:04

Just wondered if any of you have experienced this.

I'm expecting dc3. I have to gorgeous boys already. After ttc for ages and lots of health problems I am not bothered what gender my baby is I'm just glad I'm finally pg.

What I'm finding is everyone and their friend seems to think I want a girl and go as far as to say. O I bet you would be disappointed.
I'm starting to feel very protective of baby especially if a boy and thinking that everyone else would prefer a girl.

Maybe pregnancy hormones. But other than sod off and min your business I don't know what else to tell them.

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Bubblebell1 · 23/04/2012 15:05

Sorry about the typos. I'm not dense. It's my I phone Blush

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doormat · 23/04/2012 15:10

ikwym.. even though my pg days are long over..its becuase of the public perception of mum, dad, boy girl as a nuclear family which is a load of bollies...i never cared as long as the child was healthy, and when i had a child that was very poorly he was still loved and cared for ...tell them to mind their own bizz lol x

AThingInYourLife · 23/04/2012 15:18

I'm in your situation, except I have 2 girls.

I dunno, it doesn't really bother me. I can understand why people might think that. I would love a boy in many ways.

Even DD1 (4) keeps saying how I should have a boy "for Daddy" ConfusedHmm :o

The thing is, I genuinely don't really have a preference. I have two great kids, and soon I'll have three. :) It's an embarrassment of riches really.

Nobody would ever think "poor you" about a woman with three children just because they were all the same gender.

I think it's just that people don't really know what to say to a woman pregnant for the 3rd time, so if you have 2 the same this seems the obvious line.

YouveCatToBeKittenMe · 23/04/2012 15:22

You can't win whatever you have

My first was a girl my second a boy, when I got pregnant for the third time people said, "oh but you've already got one of each" Hmm

Spiritedwolf · 23/04/2012 15:48

I think people get a bit obsessed about gender because it's one of the few things you can talk about a baby before you know its personality, particuarly before birth. It doesn't (or shouldn't) really matter.

It really isn't very informative anyway, knowing the sex. I mean so it puts your baby into one half of humanity or the other, but there is so much overlap in terms of personality, interests, future careers etc that it doesn't tell you much.

My sister hopes I'm having a girl. The idea is that since she is the kind of girl who likes clothes, pink, make-up etc that she would instantly see a way to bond with a girl. I am a girl (her sister even!) and I don't share those interests, so its a bit of a flawed idea. I'd much rather if she saw that her interests, particuarly her wider ones in acting and music, are definately shareable with the new child, boy or girl.

My husband is determined to get our child (of either sex) interested in his hobby, trains and model railways. ;) I'm sure that I'd love it if our child shared our love of books, and my interests in nature, drawing and geeky computer stuff. But I'm sure that our brain washing enthusiasm will only get our child so far and then they'll discover interests all of their own.

You'll know yourself that your boys are different from one another, a third boy may be just as different again, or maybe a girl would share many interests with her brothers.

I am pretty indifferent as to whether I have a girl or a boy, as their sex tells me very little about who they are and will become. Most people are indifferent about what star sign their child is born under for the same reason.

I guess I would like to have a mixture of boys and girls when we complete our family, though I'm not sure why, just to have 'the experience' of raising both. Of course again that seems to assume that raising one boy is the same as raising another. See how deeply ingrained this gender rubbish is? I would imagine that the comments you have recieved reflect the speaker's own desire realised or not, for that balance of genders in their own family, and they assume you have that same picture in your head of what a family looks like. Thinking of that, it probably is that the picture society has and puts in our head is that a family is a mum, dad, brother and sister.

My mum has been knitting and buying stuff for my new (gender unknown) baby. I asked her if a packet of patterned muslin cloths I spotted at her house were for me/our baby. She said it would depend what colour baby I was having - I laughed and said 'probably white like me and DH' - of course she meant whether my baby was pink or blue (Agbar score? Wink ) whether I was having a boy or a girl, as the pattern on the muslins was pink.

Its odd that the closer we seem to get in gender equality, the more accepting we are of different sexualities and transexuality (none as much as we could be yet) the more we seem to need to demarkate young girls as pink and floral, and young boys as blue and vehicle/sport obsessed.

Even as babies who all need to do little more than eat and sleep. I mean, does it matter if I use a pink/red patterned muslin cloth to mop up spit up from my baby boy's face and some passing stranger assumes he's a girl? Does that threaten his future manhood somehow? If I wrap my baby girl in a blue blanket (my favourite colour, and the colour of our one and only bedroom) does it matter if she is mistaken for a boy? Does that diminish her future attractiveness (which women seem to be judged upon?). My DH wore a yellow dress as a baby because money was tight and it had been given to his mother before his gender was known - it didn't make him feminine or gay, and if he had been would it matter?

Its a load of gender related, sexist, ridiculousness. Speaking as a woman who wasn't allowed a blue bedroom as a kid, but eventually got dinosaur wall paper. ;) Chances are that whatever sex our baby is, there is a good chance that this little one will be a geek - both parents are dominate in the Geek gene. Poor kid Grin

Enjoy your boys and your new baby, whatever colour the little one turns out to be Grin

Spiritedwolf · 23/04/2012 15:57

Sorry about the length of that Hmm I must learn to write concise posts:
The short version:

People are a bit obesessed with gender aren't they? You'd think they'd never heard of a female footballer or a male nursery assistant, given that they seem to think its the most important thing about a new baby.

Mind you, as its the only thing they can find out about a little one at that age, maybe we should be gentle and take the smile and ignore it rather than getting into long-winded discussions of gender politics and commercialisation of childhood. see above for an example

:)

Sproglet · 23/04/2012 15:58

I have a boy and a girl and now pregnant with 3rd. The comments I get are 'why are you having another one you already have one of each'Hmm. The point I trying to say is that I don'nt think you can win either way !!!!Lol ! xx

Bubblebell1 · 23/04/2012 15:58

That just it. My mum has 4 girls. When she had her last people actually said "oh poor you. I suppose that's it at 4, bet you wanted a boy!"
Dmil has 5 sons and she openly admits she would have loved a girl and when people made the same comments to her she agreed with them but said "I can't complain, they are healthy."

I'm only 16 weeks and every person I've told has Said " ooo bet you want a girl!" then say congratulations hahaha Grin

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Sproglet · 23/04/2012 15:59

Sorry missed 'Youkattobekittenme' Blush

Babylon1 · 23/04/2012 16:00

Know what u mean to a T!!

We have 2 beautiful girls and I'm 40+1 with a boy this time Smile

We've had all the comments about how pleased we must be etc, and yes of course we are, but we would have been just as happy with another girl too!!

Some people ate just do insensitive Sad

Bubblebell1 · 23/04/2012 16:01

Haha spirited don't appologise. I'm going to use some of that post when the divs start again with their nonsense.

I find it upsetting. A friend of mine is expecting dc3 in a few weeks. She has 2 boys and found out this was a boy too. She hasn't told anyone except me that is a boy for the same reasons. She said she's so hormonal she will thump anyone that makes these thoughtless comments Grin

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steben · 23/04/2012 16:02

I have one DD and everyone - especially family seem to be piling on the pressure that this one should be a boy. I would love one of each - but it is making me upset to think that if this one is a girl she is de-valued in some way. Silly I know...

muddychipmunk · 23/04/2012 16:02

It's strange isn't it? My MIL, upon hearing that I'm newly preggers assumes that I would like another boy, and I've spent a wee while trying to work out why. I'd rather the baby was healthy, and perhaps, more open to sleeping than DS1... But did worry that somehow she doesn't think I can parent a girl. ConfusedGrin

Worse I think is when they're actually here and people impose gender restrictions upon them - a woman refused to sell my DS a toy Hoover in a charity shop cos it was a girls toy. We came home, and I let him use the cylinder Hoover here. He loves hoovering now, and I'm quietly pleased each time he grabs the hose from me and gigglingly lets it slurp up his toys.

nurse · 23/04/2012 16:04

I was just having a rant about exactly the same thing earlier!! Am currently 18 weeks pregnant with my third child, (have twin 5 year old boys) and since going public with the news the immediate response after 'is it 2 again' has been 'ooooh, you'll be wanting a girl'. After ttc for a year I couldn't give a hoot whether it is a boy or a girl! My friend was telling me that after she gave birth to her 3rd daughter people were actually stopping her and saying what a shame it was that she hadn't had a boy!!!!!!!!, what is wrong with some people, why would this ever be an acceptable thing to say??? Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bubblebell1 · 23/04/2012 16:07

I'm finding out the sex tomorrow and I'm seriously considering keeping it quiet. I know I won't. I can't keep a secret for love nor money!

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LoopyLa · 23/04/2012 16:15

Bubble

Yesterday when we told my in-laws, we had a similar reaction. Because my DH's dad has 2 grand children (both girls), he asked what I'd like & I replied I don't mind as long as it's healthy and he said "still, it would be nice for it to be a boy"

....errrr why? Like I'll try and sort that out for you Hmm ??!!!? Will he be disappointed if I give birth to a girl??!! Although obviously I wouldn't give a flying feck if he was though Grin

Tw*t. (sorry, pg hormones Blush)

Spiritedwolf · 23/04/2012 16:24

Should probably note that I would mind if my DH was gay because then he probably wouldn't be married to me or fathering our children... but his sexuality and my own are the only ones that are any of my business. Grin

Sad at a boy being refused a toy hoover because it was for girls. However, it is much more useful to have him use/play with the real thing under supervision. Never saw much point in the pretend ones myself (hate housework and don't have children under my feet whilst I'm trying to do stuff yet.. )

Bluebell glad my rambles are of interest.

It's interesting nurse and others TTC for a while. I wonder if TTC for 5-6 years before I got pregnant with this one is also what makes me disinterested in what sex this one is, even though its my first. Either that or I'm some militant breed of Feminist Could be the latter Wink

LIG1979 · 23/04/2012 16:25

I have a family that were obsessed with hoping that it was a girl. To the point my sister said that it was 'a relief it was a girl' after my 20 week scan as in our family there are very few men. Personally, after 1 mc and a very early chemical pregnancy - I am happy that she is alive and well and that I have made it to nearly 25 weeks.

Incidentally, blue is my favorite colour so she will be wearing blue as well as pink and a variety of colours!

zipzap · 23/04/2012 16:28

Trick is, if anyone says anything, to say that this time you are hoping for a kitten/baby elephant/baby martian/etc That usually wrong-foots them enough to make them realise they have said something a bit stupid and divert the conversation away from the topic or to lighten it up.

On second thoughts - maybe not a baby elephant, cute and lovely though they are, maybe just a bit too big Grin. Maybe a baby bunny makes more sense Grin

oh and congratulations, here's wishing you a happy healthy dc 3, whatever you have!

Bubblebell1 · 23/04/2012 16:38

Haha spirited Grin I know what u mean Wink. My boys are regularly washing up and hoovering. Ds1 loves cooking and rugby ds2 is obsessed with batman and hulk. Ds1 had a Hoover ds2 had a pram.
The lady in that charity shop would have strung me up!

loopy we shall add ur fil to the list of ppl my friend can thump.

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Spiritedwolf · 23/04/2012 16:42

I like the idea of wanting a kitten :)

If you really want to be nasty though I guess you could say that Oh yes you are desperate for a girl, and that you will have an abortion if its a boy, just to even up the worldwide bias towards aborting baby girls. Shock That might make them think twice about how important gender is...

Of course, that would do the opposite of lightening up the topic with talks of kittens etc, and might lose you some insensitive friends/relatives. Probably not advisable incase someone thinks you are serious.

Bubblebell1 · 23/04/2012 16:46

Haha that's a great idea. I'm going to say that to the next 1.
No one takes me seriously to believe ms but will prob say "bubble is such a selfish twat, " can't win either way. I may just say me no I'm not pregnant. It's wind. Grin I'm expecting a great big fart! Wink

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FuckedOfftotheFarSideofFuck · 23/04/2012 16:52

I have 2 - DD (4) and DS (20mths). Lovely, one of each. I also know that if I had 2 DD or 2 DS, it would be delightful. I am glad to have one of each 'cause DH didn't want to be outnumbered! ;)

However, when I was pregnant with DS, we didn't tell people the sex. Quite a few people asked "Will you go again if it's a girl?" as if having another child was just like another go on the fruit machine! As if having another girl wouldn't have been lovely and beautiful!

People are odd about these things!

muddychipmunk · 23/04/2012 16:53

Grin at the alternatives to boy / girl. Especially liking the idea of growing my own small Martian Grin

How about people (MIL) refusing to let us tell her what the gender was cos she wanted it to be a surprise?

Bubblebell1 · 23/04/2012 17:04

Haha muddy don't tell her when baby arrives either.
How strange. It's a surprise at 20 weeks or birth!

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