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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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Magnumwhite · 25/02/2012 14:28

Hi everyone.
Scan was ok yesterday. baby estimated at 5lb 14oz so they are happy. The ultrasonographers comment was ' the baby looks a bit squashed in there'
hopefully all the pains are just stretching pains then..

LucindaE · 25/02/2012 17:00

Magnum Lol, poor squashed baby! So glad all is well.
Lucinda
xx

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Heartbeep · 25/02/2012 18:30

Feel better today, no sickness & nausea is way less, poor DH is tired from my continual requests for food, he's so pleased I'm eating though. Still not much but little & more often.

I do still have a headache which feels like a mild migraine that I can't shift & I'm utterly exhausted. I can't tell yet if these are side effects of the meds or if it's from the dehydration or if it's just because I'm pregnant!

The main thing is I am starting to feel better, long may it continue.

Hope some others find some relief soon.

Heartbeep · 25/02/2012 18:33

magnum my daughter was 5lb 14oz at birth (37 weeks) & was totally fine. She jumped to the 91st percentile for weight & height and has remained there, she'll be 3 in the summer. She was so tiny & scrawny at birth, but very quickly bulked up.

Congrats it's all going well & good luck with the remainder of the pregnancy.

Magnumwhite · 25/02/2012 19:00

so glad you're feeling better Heartbeep
Re headaches - I used forehead which is a roll on menthol type product, and paracetomol suppositories which you can get on prescription. Bizarrely often headaches improved if I ate something.
have a foot stuck under my rib cage - m skin needs to do some stretching!

Heartbeep · 25/02/2012 20:15

Thanks but looks like I spoke too soon as I've just been really sick Sad
At least its only once so far today which is a big improvement.

I'll check out the headache stuff tomorrow thanks as I'm wary about taking too much paracetamol as well as anti emetics, they sound like they might do the job.

So much for mother earth eating good wholesome organic veggie food throughout this pregnancy, so far it's pills pills and more pills...onwards & upwards!

Magnumwhite · 25/02/2012 20:21

Heartbeep don't worry too much about drugs - had so many with DS1 and he was perfect. now on Ranitidine for heartburn as well.
sorry about the vomiting :(

LucindaE · 26/02/2012 09:54

Heartbreeps I had awful migraine type headaches, it was hard to tell the dehydration headaches from migraines caused by hormonal changes! Sorry that puking has come back, that's disappointing, a lot of women feel almost themselves after rehydration and injections and its dismal when the symptoms start to come back. Are you on oral cyclazine?
Magnum I hadn't heard of paracetomal supposatories - sounds a great idea! Lol about baby's foot position.
Flirty and all, I hope coping?
Lucinda
xx

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shouldIbecrossaboutthis · 26/02/2012 12:57

So glad I came across this thread, haven't read all the replies, I'm about 11 weeks (dating scan on tuesday) and have lost 11 lbs in weight, I'm so worried about the baby. I have anti sickness pills but they don't seem to do the job. Luckily it eases up at 8pmish so I am able to keep down fluids from then.

During the day I'm sick/heaving every 20 minutes until 11am, then hourly or so.

Has anyone found any foods they can keep down? I really want some chicken nuggets but am too scared to eat them but couldn't anyway as I have celiacs :(

Hoping you all feel better.

Cosmogirl · 26/02/2012 13:38

Hi ladies,

Magnum - glad all ok at scan.

Feel I've been coping mentally a little better last couple of days with the nausea. Not letting it beat me down as much. Looking forward to the acupuncture on Weds and will let you know how it goes.

DH has man flu and is dying & I have had a sympathy bypass thanks to the HG so am finding it a little tough at the moment. I did take him breakfast in bed this morning, but I wish he would suck it up just a little. After all, I feel like shit all the time and I still have to get on with things....Moan, moan... Bring on the Spring and some better weather so all these bugs go away. It just seems to be one thing after the other in our house at the moment. HG and a 3 yr old are more than enough to contend with on an average day!

Hugs to everyone suffering and yay for those feeling slightly more human. I hope it continues on that trend.

xx

Magnumwhite · 26/02/2012 17:29

Goodness Cosmo I sympathise. The minute DH is ill (fortunately not often), the child care goes back to me, like you say though I feel ill most of the time.
Has been a horrid few months for bugs.
Crossaboutthis welcome and sorry you're feeling so rubbish.
It may be that you find you can tolerate the chicken nuggets - as the immune system is compromised during pregnancy it may not react as it did before. I found i could tolerate wheat when pregnant with DS whereas I wasn't good with it before.
Get results of a few more tests tomorrow. Hb levels are 9.3 so having to try and force down an iron supplement which really doesn't help with the heartburn and nausea :(

LucindaE · 26/02/2012 18:36

ShouldI Poor you, welcome, this sounds awful, every 20 minutes is vile. Have you got kesosticks to check your not getting dangerously dehydrated? Can you face going back to GP and telling him the meds aren't doing their job? Or phoning and getting him/her to ring to advise? At one stage, ice lollies and sips of flat coke and nibbles of crisps was my diet. For some reason, unhealthy, salty or sweet things seem to be more bearable to most. Jelly? Ice Cream? Tinned fruit? Avoid pasta, my goodness, the grotesque thing is, as I am sure you know too well, you have to judge food by how disgusting it is on the way up. Never worry about tmi on here!
Cosmo Hugs, poor you to have to look after OH on top of it all! Good luck with the Acupunture.
Lucinda
xx

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LucindaE · 26/02/2012 18:37

Forgot to add, Magnum good luck with tests!
Lucinda
xx

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shouldIbecrossaboutthis · 26/02/2012 21:57

cosmo sorry to hear your DH is poorly and you're not getting much help at the mo, fingers crossed he will be ok in a few days, try not to do so much.

Magnumwhite I'm allergic to wheat and gluten (not intolerant), so don't think I should eat it at all? I will investigate. Are you intolerant or allergic? Sorrry to hear you're suffering too, I guess you've tried gaviscon? . Hope your tests ok.

LucindaE the dr changed my tablets on Friday and said to go back tomorrow if I'm still being sick. It's only hourly today thankfully, so feel a bit more normal. I've had jelly and flat coke and squash with a pinch of salt. It's weird but I haven't been sick any food today; more of a slight foamy, clear/white substance that tastes weird, sorry TMI i know. I wonder if it's the tablets?

I'm not getting dehydrated, I never really drink v much ordinarily and am keeping enough down in the evenings to keep me going thankfully. Already had a drip once, trying to avoid it again!

horseynewmum · 27/02/2012 11:35

Should I I second lucinda and don't have pasta as it aint nice second time round lol. You will soon work out what you want and not want but that is usually through what is comfortable on the way back up. Re chicken nuggets I cant comment cause that is something I cant eat during this pregnancy.

My bambino is doing well its been kicking under my ribcage too and good its big kicks now lol

LucindaE · 27/02/2012 13:35

Horsey Congratulations on baby's kicks!
ShouldI Never worry about tmi on this thread - we have no choice when disucssing the symptoms but to go in for the most awful details. I produced a strange foam too, I don't know where it came from, as I was dehydrated at the time. I'm glad it's not so bad today. Good for you with the jelly and coke, that's the unhealthy sort of stuff that stands a chance of staying down...
Lucinda
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LucindaE · 27/02/2012 17:44

ShouldI Goodness, I feel guilty, I had somehow missed your saying that you are still being sick every hour! I may be an improvement on yesterday, but my goodness, it's still exhausting and can't be allowed to go on. I'm sure you're still checking for deydration, and you need to. Thank goodness you're going back soon. I do hope those tablets start working asap.
Lucinda
xx

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theonlyhb2 · 27/02/2012 17:56

horsey, i had to smile, the poor dog :) I threw up on mine a few times (handy if they clean up the sick!) and they got their own back a few times. Poor things, they got fed outside for a few months as I could smell the food everywhere I went in the house!

i also felt so lonely when pregnant, but then I also wanted to hide away and not have to deal with people, so it was hard as no one knew what I wanted (least of all me).

must dash crying child!

feekerry · 27/02/2012 18:38

hello everyone!!!

long time no post from me, magnum reminded me on another post that i haven't posted for ages on this thread, basically i eased off for a bit as i've had everything from SPD thru to a GD scare so pretty rubbish pregnancy really. I finally stopped being sick at about 34 weeks so manage at the moment by just taking the odd cyclizne every now and then when the heartburn causes wretching! i'm due in 3 weeks now thank god. baby is constantly measuring small so been in and out of hospital with growth scans but all seems okay, just small. certinaly is active enough!!!! hope everyone else is okay, magnum due around same time then?????

horseynewmum · 27/02/2012 19:21

thamks theonly I couldnt be mad at him as he tried to get out of house I wasn't quick enough at getting up. another hazard of pregnancy lol.
Oh the loneliness still gets to me I still think of whats if about the changes in my life re this pregnancy but i'm hoping once bambino arrives that my prespective changes. When I'm round people I've been putting on smiley face making out i've aceppted all thats happened but on own my own (which isalot during the week) I still let it get to me.

right i'm now going for a shower and going to try my bikini line even tho I can't see it lol

Magnumwhite · 27/02/2012 20:44

yes feekerry due a week after you!
also have had a rubbish pregnancy and now dealing with the grim heartburn. Not on any antiemetics any longer but am on Ranitidine and trying to get Hb levels up (9.3 last wk) but so hard to tolerate iron supplements with ongoing nausea and heartburn issues
also had a growth scan last wk (had one with DS as well) but the hospital were happy with the baby's size

Cosmogirl · 28/02/2012 10:49

Morning, how is everyone doing? Fee & Magnum - you would think hyperemesis would be enough for one pregnancy, even more unfair when you are battling multiple issues as well. I know a couple of ladies who have had HG & SPD - not fun.

Nausea is bad today & letting it get to me. Thankfully DD at play school till 12. Still got 5 hours to get through after that though - hope she's in a chilled mood.... 17 weeks tomorrow - feels like time going dead slow lately. Hope 2nd half goes quicker!

Horsey - how many weeks r u? HG pregnancies are generally very lonely. Very few people in my life understand what I'm going through. I think my mum and dad do now as I spent 3 wks at their house during my worst so they saw for themselves the evil that is first trimester HG. Hang in there. X

feekerry · 28/02/2012 11:49

The only thing i'd say is the spd and various growth scans and extra hospital appointments have been a breeze compared to the hg!! Okay, spd is painful sometimes but still doesn't compare to the hg. So much so the only thing in my birth plan is no pain relief that is likely to make me sick!!

theonlyhb2 · 28/02/2012 12:50

horsey, even with someone with you all the time (my OH was off and at home with me most the time) you still feel lonely. I didn't want him in bed with me yet I didn't like being in the toilet puking on my own and felt quite angry at him that he was downstairs playing CoD and I was upstairs willing myself to go into a coma for a little while so it would all go a bit quicker.

You do get very attached to your toilet. We have 3 toilets in our house but I only ever use "my" ensuite. Even when downstairs. Its ingrained I have to be upstairs where its safe, it doesn't matter if I puke on the floor, wee myself, need to lie down for a while or sit there for an hour waiting for a number 2 ;) Of course, none of these things happen now, so I really do need to train myself out of it.

As for taking medication all thru the pregnancy, I took maximum dose of anti-sickness, paracetamol, smoked weed for the sickness (helped with the eating, nothing touches the nausea, I realised this last time, when I wasn't worried about any risks), antibiotics a few times for chest infections, then steroids, plus masses of ranitidine and gavisocon. co-codymol for the back pain. 6lb 1oz when born, perfectly healthy, still perfectly healthy and as big as her friend who was born 7 weeks before and was twice her size when she was born! In fact, I think she is a bit longer than him now. My point is, don't worry about taking all these things. You aren't smoking crack or jacking up heroin. YOU need to be well or else how will your baby be ok? You know what is right for your own body so don't let anybody make you feel guilty otherwise. When they are there with you puking etc 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, then you might let them have an opinion but they wont ever be so balls to them. I hate the guilt associated with everything you do. Don;t eat pineapple, dont cross the road, dont touch brie, run screaming from chorizio.....pffft

(ha rant over.....I came on today so have hormonal issues today).

feekerry and magnum, so close now! i remember feekerry being especially miserable at the beginning, so its nice it didn't last the whole time (nice that you have so many other problems to distract you?!)

horseynewmum · 28/02/2012 13:49

Cosmo i'm 28+5 so getting closer yeah!!!!!

only I understnad about loving your own toilet. I'm like that for a number 2 can only go in my toilet. I only have one toilet in my house but i've been like its my toilet i'll hog it as much as I want and if its a mess well thats not my fault. Thankfully its only DH who uses it and my mum when she been over (it usually cleaner after she been so probably cleans it while there lol)

feekerry and Magnum not long now

I'm starting to panic i'll go into labour and DH will miss it birth as at work or something like that. In a way not having him there making stupid comments would be lovely but on a serious not this is his child and dont want to miss him it when DC arrives.
Thankfully he is only 20mins away and have got the contact number list for everyone so he'll have everyone ringing him lol