Might be OTT but how come people just get pregnant without planning?

[Sandra2011]

Even contraception is free in UK.

I'm from Scandinavia where you have to pay for your contraception (not cheap!), still there is no problem with teenage pregnancies and I personally don't know anyone who's children were not planned.

I'm talking about people who were born after the 60's.

Is it because we have sex education in school?
When I was school age that education started at 11.

Can I just add, as a fellow Scandinavian, Sandra you're full of shit! And I very much doubt religion has got anything to do with it - Can't talk for the rest of Scandinavia, but Sweden's certainly less religious than the UK by a long shot. I'd say perhaps the drinking culture is the key to the difference (if there is one!), although having said that, I know plenty of people from home who fell pregnant as teens, so maybe it's you who have been raised wrapped up in cotton wool!

Also, you said your friends may have had accidents, but have occured with gaps, so that would be luck then rather than being careful!

Maybe go back to Scandinavia if it's so great? Just a thought...

Couldn't have said it better myself Karmanna

oh bog off OP and try living in the real world for a while.

SayCoolNowSayWhip you seem to have disproved my theory about doubling up on contraception! Come on, surely you made a mistake with the timings, threw a pill up, had the squits, were on antibiotics... anything?! Please don't let me believe that it's possible to get PG while on the pill and using condoms!

I think another issue which is worth discussing here is.... VASECTOMY! Why is it always up to us women to sort out the contraception? It is in our marriage, anyway. Although we're just starting a family, DH has categorically stated he will NEVER have a vasectomy, even if it means me being on the pill until menopause. I will work on him, though, after say No3 is born!

My DH has finally agreed to a vasectomy after no3 arrives, Appley! Although sometimes tubes don't tie off properly and sperm sneaks through.... Ooh, look, another reason why people conceive by accident.

A couple of points, sandra:

1 - I have conceived 3 times, on purpose, the first time I tried and managed not to get pregnant at any other point. Well done me. It doesn't mean that I can't imagine or understand how this might not work for other people.
2 - "It's very easy to comment other peoples threads and call them names. I would like to see more activity on this board. So evereyone please start some new threads." - what are you on about? You started this thread and asked a question which everyone is answering.
3 If one of your 'friends' had a baby, and then 18 months later had an accident, how would you know exactly?
4 - Religion is irrelevant. Unless you're strictly Catholic and only have sex for procreation. Choosing to have an abortion is an incredibly complicated, emotive decision that few people take lightly.
5 - issues of statistically high rates of teenage pregnancies and the question of how many people conceive by accident are entirely separate. I'd be amazed if there's any research into the latter - who, apart from the individuals involved, gives a toss how many grown-ups in stable relationships get up the duff by mistake? Show me the stats that say this happens less in Sweden than it does here.

Your arguments aren't well thought through.

Alcohol is the word you are searching for. A certain je ne sais vodka approach

Contraception is not free, OP, for those of us who pay National Insurance. (It really gets my goat when people says we have a free NHS. We do not.)

I conceived DD1 when two specialist doctors swore blind to me and my partner that we would never be able to conceive without help. So we didn't bother with contraception... bingo. It happens.

And, incidentally, despite the fact it turned my world upside down, she is the best gift I've ever had and I never go to bed at night without remembering how very lucky I am.

Not all unplanned things are bad.

Good on Mr Phlossie! I think the least men can do after watching their partners go through pregnancy and labour is to stand up and take responsibility for the contraception. When you've both agreed on it, that is!