I just want to be like Hunker - so I'm 34 wks and breech as well

[PrincessPlumPuddingHead]

Boo .

Hunker, send me some "turn, peaheadbaby, turn" vibes please...

Current plan is 1. scan at 37wks if still breech to look at cord and placenta, 2. ECV if I feel like it, 3. moxibustion at 38/39 if I don't/ECV doesn't work, 4. have a breech birth at home if the bugger is still the wrong way up. CSection not an option I'm considering unless there is a good medical reason for it.

Luckily I have the world's finest Ind Midwife who is bird happy to do home breech births (think she is up to 3 this year already) but frankly I'd rather have the head down version...

Mears/pupuce/anyone else - what do you think? But I know there is masses of time for it to turn etc etc etc... (after all it has turned in the last fortnight, silly thing)

i am frantically sending vibes your way. i know you know but there is lots of time still for turning. and think your plan is fantastic. spoke to my indep midwives about breech possibilities and between them they'd done quite a few...footling breech is dodgy i think (might be wrong ) but bum first should be fine!...

so sorry about the stress of it, but you're dealing with it fabulously

turn baby turn

be a hippy and try asking it to regularly, directly like you would ask me to move up on the sofa, if outloud than better still...stranger things have happened trust me

hilarious! frozen peas and polite requests! I'll try anything. actually my ribs hurt so much, frozen peas on them sounds rather soothing...

trouble about footling/bum presentation is that you never know how it is going to come out. It may look footling in a scan but draw its legs up during birth or vice versa. So I think if you go for a vaginal birth you just take what comes, which is a bit scary. I think the problem with footling is that there isn't much pressure to open the cervix so you can end up with a foot or two out and the head a bit stuck.
Eurgh! Best not to think about that and concentrate on positive thinking. And PEAS!!!! (or sweetcorn, presumeably?!)

I would like to be like hunker too

I am not sneaky enough though

and my peehole does not get bumped often

I would like to be able to spell/type as well as hunker....
sending turning thoughts to you both
pph I know of two vaginally delivered breech babies (both by ind midwife), both labours were fine!
(agree tho a footling breech is a bit grim, frank is best IIRC)
Have you tried OFP?

what is OFP? I'll try anything! (Almost )

These stories make me really glad I didn't have any scans. Ignorance can be so blissful.

Good luck PPPH. Are you doing Optimal Foetal Positioning excersises?

Swimming is supposed to help isn't it?

I expect you have researched this fully yourself but these are all methods which are supposed to help:

Lie on your back with your hips and back supported by cushions, a modified shoulder stand if you know what I mean. As far upside down as you can get and still be semi-comfortable. Put frozen peas on the top of your bump (where the baby's head is currently). Darken the room and shine a torch near your fanny (yes, honestly). Put headphones there and play nice music. Get dp to sing and talk up there. Finally, talk to your baby and tell them you want them to turn round. Have a bit of a soul search and see if there is anything in your own psyche that could be preventing a turn - are you scared of giving birth vaginally? etc. (well who isn't let's face it?)

If you are a good swimmer, go swimming and dive quickly to the bottom of the pool. Repeat as necessary.

Any or all of these could make the difference. I was breech at 34 weeks and ds did turn after some weeks of a combination of the above incliding torches up the fanny. Of course I'll never know if he would have done so anyway, but hey, it will make a great story when he's 14.

Lots of good wishes for you - it can be such a worry just when it would be nice to be basking in the last few weeks of pregnancy. Hope the above help you or might help someone else in the same situation.

PPH are you in London? Only wondering 'cause I had the world's finest midwife who was also happier with breech babies than our naughty posterior one.

I am sending your LO turning vibes...

torch up yer fanny????

Franny - torch up yer fanny????

Not UP it, as in, inside it. Just in that area, up your skirt, you know?

Phew!

Well you could get the AIMS booklet on breech, it's good.
Also at 34 weeks, 15% of babies are breech.
I take it this is not your 1st? If not it's a much easier decision to make (I think).
Keep us posted... what's your usual nickname?

It is Princesspeahead pupace!

Cadmum, what a coincidence. I also know the world's finest midwife who happens to be in London and takes breech births in her stride. I wonder if it's the same woman or from the same group of wise women.

I hope the baby turns me dear. Mine was also breech at 34 weeks. I scrubbed the kitchen floor and kept my bum in the air for a fortnight until DD turned.

The chances are your baby will turn

Keep talking to it. I agree with your plan at the beginning BTW if babe stays breech (which I doubt).

If you have a skilled IM then there is no reason not to attempt a vaginal breech birth. Your IM will tell you that is there are any signs of poor progress, a C/S is the way to go. Will keep an eye on your future posts.

RIGHT, now hear this Master or Mistress PPH, this is what we had in mind...........Head first please

BTW

I am fully aware that they more than a little puke inducing, but it was the best I could find.

OFP is what spidermama recommneds, Optimal Foetal Positioning, sorry to use an abbrev (I ht em) .

ha ha re the torches!
The worlds finest IM is based in Berkshire (well mine is anyway!) Lynn Walcott, she is v active in ARM etc. She is getting me the leaflet you recommended (AIMS) if it is still breach in a couple of weeks. It is my 4th so she says there is "lots of room" for it to move around.
And I didn't have a scan spidermama, my IM just did a lot of prodding and listening with the pinnard etc and that is the conclusion we have come to....

lol sherlock!

spidermama that OFP article seems to be more about moving an OP baby to OA, not a breech to cephalic... I'll do a google. Thanks!

Had totally missed this thread! How are you, PPH? Is the baby still breech? Mine's firmly head down now, so there's still time for yours to turn (although not growing quite "right" apparently so scans, etc happening).

Really hope the baby's turned.