Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

A new thread needed here already! Lovely Grumblin who started the second one, may be actually having that baby at this minute!

I hope this will be a source of support for present sufferers and ex sufferers alike and also worried family members.

I want particularly to mention my favourite feline FluffyWhiteKittens, who has been so invaluable a source of support on the old threads, and MOH, who has slaved to produce articles full of useful information and links to useful websites, LaTrucha, lovely CaramelloKoalaLover, Grumblin, NitNat, La, Lottie, Grandmagain, MaryLou, Cocoanuts and so many that I cannot name everyone for fear that the current sufferer may became annoyed at the long list...

Never worry about tmi or moaning. When suffering one has to discuss things that would make most people go weak at the knees and to have a good moan can help enormously with an illness where there is still a lot of ignorance and sometimes insensitive treatment.

It might help to remember - when you are at your worst - the words in that Eastern story.
'This Too Shall Pass.'

LucindaE
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Louby It's brave of you to wish to stay when you are weakened. How are you feeling, I hope puking has eased off with meds if you are back at work?
[Hopeful face].
Pepsi I hope no more bleeding.
Feekerry How are the meds working? I hope you are a lot better, my goodness?!
MummymcCar How are you today?
theOnly Luce wish pc troubles, couldn't put in my usual [wine}] etc for birth announcements/new Pink Castle arrivals. I hope this awful headache has gone,Luce? Grnadma? I hope you are feeling stronger, TheOnly?
Ep I believe some get sickness as early as the first week after the period should have been due. Ihave heard there's tests that can say, I suppose by hormone levels? Good luck at Dr's. Do try and emphasize that it isn't a 'normal' level of sickness your complaining about.
Grumblin Oh, just seen your nice messsage earlier. I hope we can all meet someday! Yes, it does make me feel a stupid sort of pride when women come though and out the other side, and are happy again. I was particularly delighted in your case, as you suffered so. I hope you are feeling a lot, lot better now? cyber hugs.
And to MOH LA Coconuts GrandmaNitnat theOnlyluce Fluffy and all...
LucindaE
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pepsi def sounds like mallory weiss tear. I got these every morning up until delivery. If the blood is red it is fresh, a good sign - which I know sounds but if it was brown & looked like coffee grounds it would mean old blood. Which means its in your stomach and is more dangerous medically. How are you now?

feekerry +6 ketones is a record, you must have felt like death you poor thing, how are you today?

empusa Sorry you have to join, & only just got your bfp, that sucks. Please go to MOH's site it is a wealth of info& stick around here, we're a helpful bunch

lucinda & regulars its amazing how well I feel now. I look back to 7 weeks ago & the difference is amazing. I've put up some 'during hg, in labour & after hg' pics but I've had to restrict it as I'm a bit wary about privacy after the facebook stalker. Just add my talk name to your mates list to see it if I've inadvertantly missed you.

nitnat & la Newborn days are weird aren't they? the feeding is still pretty relentless but dd is a great sleeper, she wakes up less than ds2 (3) who is & always has been a nightmare.

theonly bit worried about you? Everything ok?

supercoconuts here to save lucinda

empusa sorry you are having to join us, hope you find out how far along you are soon :) Here is the link for moh website

sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/home

luce has had blood patch done today so fingers crossed she will soon be better

coconuts Thanks, was 1 handed typing so couldn't do link. not long now!!!!!

grandma is luce still in hospital? i had a failed epidural with ds1 but have never heard of the headache thing? Is the baby with her?

Due date list as it has been a while...

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Coconuts: EDD 01/10/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11 (subject to change)
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11 , Dating scan: 25/06/11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
Feekerry 24/03/2012

Oh stop it... I'm too near the top!! Eek!!

yes she is unfortunatly, the needle punctured too far and the wound has not healed properly a rare complication just my poor DD"s bad luck as she has had all through, they have done a blood patch which is where they inject some of your own blood into the wound and it acts like a bung and hopefully promotes healing. Johnny has been coping magnificently with the baby taking him in with him all day then home at night.

Poor, poor luce. I can't imagine how she must feel to have to wave little archie off at night. She really has had it bad - wish her a speedy recovery from us on the hg thread.

coconuts ha ha! Just thought i'd put it there as a reminder for everyone who is up next

Grumblin lovely pictures, you look so happy and smiley in the last one :)
Hope everyone else is feeling ok

Hi again, sorry to have disappeared for a few days. Thank you so much to everyone for welcoming me and being so supportive, it's nice to have people to talk to who know what I'm going through. Sorry to hear about hospital admissions and relapses, hope you are all feeling a bit better soon and that rest helps.

Went to the GP on Friday evening and saw a fantastic doctor who gave ne lots of printed information about the condition and prescribed me cyclizine. Couldn't get my prescrip until sat morning by DP was there before the shop opened, waiting to get my tablets. Sat morning I had the bile run and was retching a lot before the new pills but since then I haven't vomited once. Retched once yesterday but nothing today. Had another urine test today and it came back clear so they seem to be helping! Even managed to eat lunch yesterday & today and am now getting hungry again. The only downside is that they seem to be keeping me pretty heavily sedated. Been sleeping around 14 hours a day since sat morning. I'd rather be out of it and eating than awake and vomiting though so I'm pretty happy. Fingers crossed these keep working.

I got a text message earlier with the legendary words 'you aren't sick, you're pregnant' from mum. Was so angry, trying to keep telling myself that she just doesn't understand but she keeps making comments that would test my patience anyway, with HG I'm struggling to keep my temper. Does anyone have any advice for dealing with this situation? Really getting me down.

mummymccar
if you can get your mum to come on gransnet i would be happy to chat to her

mummymccar my mum was a little bit like that. I had the whole I was sick all day for 6 months story off her until I showed her my sicknote! I told her to look up HG on the internet, just like I told my boss, which helped because I wasn't great at explaining it. Have you bought the ketostix? I've got an unopened box of them if you want me to send them to you? They're about a fiver I think and they saved me from visiting the doctor all the time with my little bottle .

Mummymccar glad the cyclizine seems to be helping. Get as much rest as possible. Does your mum use the Internet? Get her to look at some of the sites. There are also a couple of facebook pages with links to blogs and YouTube videos by sufferers.
It's so important to have moral and practical support especially from family.

mummymccar, so glad to hear the meds seem to be working. I too am a cyclizine taker; it saved me at 7 weeks and I've been on it ever since although have cut down dosage (am 26 weeks now). About the drowsiness, I know lots of other people say that this passes after 10-14 days if you keep taking it consistently and at the same time each day. Eventually the haze will lift! That comment of your mum's is not very helpful is it? Maybe you could direct her to MOH's site, or get her to read some of the literature your GP gave you so that she can find out that some people are in fact sick and pregnant! Anyway, try not to focus on it too much and save your energy for feeling better. :)

Thanks for the support everyone!
Grandmaagain Think I'll have to direct her towards Gransnet!
Louby86 Thanks for the tip off - just ordered some off Amazon - thank you for the offer!

Glad to hear others have had positive results with the Cyclizine too, the drowsiness seems to be lifting a little, last night I hardly had any at all with my 3rd pill of the day.

I know my Mum means well, but she just doesn't understand. Been directing her towards information on the net and the support groups but she still thinks that I'm exaggerating. She keeps telling me that I can't possibly have HG because I'm not in hospital, and that this is just normal morning sickness. Even the drowsiness she is putting down to normal pregnancy tiredness even though I've told her that Cyclizine is a sedative too. DP is trying to fend her off by taking her calls instead and giving me some rest, but she just seems to be getting angry with me now which is the last thing I need. I normally get on well with my Mum and don't want to argue with her over this, but I'm starting to think that I may have to have some choice words with her! I think that maybe part of the problem is that we live quite far away from each other so she isn't actually seeing how poorly I am, hopefully she'll be more supportive when I next see her.

Thanks for the advice everyone.

Ooh, just realised I haven't added myself to the stats yet!

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Coconuts: EDD 01/10/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11 (subject to change)
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11 , Dating scan: 25/06/11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 24/03/2012

few days off, had a bad weekend with vomiting :0(
tried my hypno therapy sunday night seemed to help a little
but lost another 3lb :(
more i think about it more i dont think these slimming world classes will be much good, since i only ate a packet of crisps yesterday
13+4 today so hoping some improvement even if mild over next week or two

feekerry i hope you are better, that sounded rough!
louby i wish i could be off work paid :)
work is ok ish but managers are really not very enthusiastic or smiley about it and are asking me to do more hours :(

Hello
I haven't worked out how to add to the due date list, but it's 30/1/12. Probably the week beforehand as I have been offered a caesarian.
Just had 2 weeks on prednisolone (steroids). It reduced the vomiting down to a manageable 1-2 times a day, made me starving, but had no effect on the constant nausea.

Does anyone else feel that the nausea is worse than the throwing up? Being sick is unpleasant, embarassing and downright inconvenient (I got some really dirty looks from an old couple when I threw up on the beach last week - I think they thought I was drunk), but the nausea really saps your strength and ability to function normally.

Anyway, I explained this to my GP today, who has finally decided that I should try ondansetron for a couple of weeks to see if it has an effect on the nausea. However, she said that GPs aren't allowed to prescribe it, and that I should contact the hospital to ask for it....Anyone know why? Is it cost?

do not fear grumblin i am back online! Yay for BT!

argh! i typed loads then managed to delete it! it must be the tiredness, I feel like I am on some weird comedown yet can't sleep as so much to do. But I am loving doing it! Even after quite a traumatic time at the hospital, first with me then Harper's jaundice, we got home about 3pm on Sunday. I have NEVER been so HAPPY in my LIFE! Mum had been round and cleaned the house top to bottom, I stayed in the shower for about an hour then we got sorted and went to the pub for a drink, chinese takeaway after, I ate so much food, things I have hated all thru pregnancy. I tell you what, this is the greatest time ever. I am also inhaling food nitnat and healthy food too. So all of you living on Greggs & KFC, don't worry, soon you will be craving fruit and veg and be able to clear all that food from your freezer.

Harper still has jaundice so am expressing at home and bottle feeding. I was really worried about it but after speaking to my aunt who did the same for her 2 (also combined with formula) I feel much better about it. It's my milk thats important, not how she gets it. I am like Daisy the Cow, I can't believe how much milk comes out and how easily. Sunday night I was up with her and ast night OH was, first time I have slept properly for a week. I even slept thru Harper crying loudly and a lot as she decided she wanted LOADS of milk last night and is starting to get her own routine already.

In other exciting news, I am back in my old clothes! 5 days after birth and the size 12 skinny jeans are back on! Bit of a bulge but I look thinner than I have done in the past. Taking lots of iron tablets, eating iron rich foods as I do look rather pale. am absolutely shattered but no where near how I felt being pregnant. every day i am thankful its over and looking at Harper, it was so worth it. She is actually gorgeous! And I had lots of fun buying her so many clothes yesterday (after I went for a manicure, left Daddy and Harper at home snoozing and I went speeding off in my car, loud music, walked fast round shops, skipped round Tesco!)

I shall def be on here offing all you other newbies support if you need it, reading all your "starts" really does make me sympathise with you as it really is the worst time ever and you think it will never pass but it does, you really do feel normal afterwards! I think all the hospital staff thought I was taking the mickey when I said labour, birth and post birth traumas were nothing compared to pregnancy, and I felt fine as soon as she popped out!

Hugs to all xxx

theonly, so glad to hear you're back at home & sounding so happy! Reading your post makes me feel quite desperate for the end of my pregnancy - roll on November! It's so good to be reminded that I will feel normal again because it is hard to imagine sometimes.
lilyrose, I reckon slimming classes are not a good idea at all. It's bad enough finding food that is acceptable/stays down during HG without being restricted by a diet. Eat what you want/can, I reckon. Your employers don't sound very sympathetic - you should be working fewer hours, not more
seapie, I've added you to the due dates list below. RE ondansetron, you're probably best off getting a response from one of the many people on this thread who've taken it, but I do know that it is very expensive, so maybe that's the reasoning? Hope you get it & that it helps with the nausea. I agree with you, that constant nausea is awful - over time it really wears you down, & can get quite depressing.
Hope everyone else doing OK. I'm away this weekend for PIL's ruby wedding anniversary, big family gathering at a hotel, so hoping I can be well enough to enjoy it & eat some nice things. Hope springs eternal eh?

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Coconuts: EDD 01/10/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11 (subject to change)
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11 , Dating scan: 25/06/11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 24/03/2012

TheOnly Congratulations again on Harper . It's lovely to read happy posts from women who've come through it - perhaps 'It Will be Worth It' should be another mantra?! I'm glad you've got so much milk - I found the blood loss and other things made me short of it...Lol about nurses' surprise that a traumatic birth is easier than Hyperemesis...
Seapie Sorry about Public Puking, at least on the beach the sea would wash it away. I had some of those 'she's drunk' looks myself when I was suffering, poor you. . I believe Ondansetron is expensive, but didn't know that about GP's not being able to prescribe it. I think the nauseated and retching constantly and nothing coming up was as bad as puking, hard to say, because bringing up bile is so painful. Oh, dear...
Lilyrose Oh dear,again, re bad week, I hope it starts to lift soon. Those crisps are a godsend...The grudging acceptance of the Managers doesn't sound symapathetic, though I bet they are sorry for themselves when they have a stomach bug...
Mummymccar So sorry about your mother not understanding, I do hope she has alook at MOH's great site. You may have escaped hospitalisation, but you can still be very ill...
Feekerry How are you? Abuurgine?
Pearl Stupidly didn't realise how far along you are already, though it probably seems a lifetime to you.
MaryLou So glad it's not too violent. Remember you well from last summer in the library when I had another problem with the Pc.
Waves to Fluffy and everyone
LucindaE
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Hi :)

Thought I'd introduce myself. I'm 17 weeks pg and I'm suffering with terrible MS. I've just finished a course of anti sickness tablets (can't remember what they were called, but I think they started with a 'P') so I stopped them on Sat. Since then I've been being sick 4/5 times a day again. I have an appt at the docs this afternoon in the hope they'll give me some more.

Does anyone have anti-sickness tablets on a repeat prescription? They seem to only let me take them for 7 days at a time.

I'm feeling so sad and shitty. It's making me resent being pregnant, and as I still haven't felt any kicks, all I see is a swollen tummy.

Wish this would just go away so I can enjoy my body again :(

Hello gang
Luce is out of hospital! at last!!!! Came out yesterday and we are now a little family again - Luce, myself, Archie, Ella (dog) Hastings & Sir Alex (the cats - although Ive seen more of Elvis than those 2 recently!). Yep as Grandma states Luce suffered from some post epidural headaches after they had eventually found a third place to inject just before she gave birth. Headaches progressively grew worse til Luce decided hospital was a better option. Went in Saturday (late) to find that she was being admitted as they needed to keep an eye on her. They made her lie on her back (and side if preferred) for 48 hours (which is never the most exciting venture!), then decided a blood patch was the way forward.
On Monday this week Luce had the blood patch and then had to lie still for 2 hours with the hope the headaches would subside. In most people the pain goes immediately but it has taken a few days with Luce. Fortunately she recovered well, let home and apart from being stiff and sore (and shattered bless her) she is back to being my beautiful wife again. Its brilliant having her home again. She's an ace mum already.
To be fair she has been through so much and is still smiling. The ward nurses, docs and anaesthetists/consultants were magnificent and worked extremely hard to make Luce feel comfortable and welcome as much as possible and were great in letting me stay all day (9am til 9pm) with Archie. Very sad leaving her at night to take our son home but thats behind us now. Never want to see a ward again! Since being home we have given Arch his first bath and a little walk in his pushchair. He is amazing and so is my wife. Our dog is brill with Arch and we now make a nice little family at last
Take care all - speak soon luv Johnny (and Luce and Archie X)

NoobyNob Poor you, welcome, and this sounds horrible. Have you got another appointment? I don't want to be bossy, but I think you need an emergency one to discuss further meds, as this shouldn't go on untreated.
Can you retain sips of flat coke, water or ice lollies, etc? Liquids are the main thing, as I am sure you know. If you can retain enough of them, baby wilbe fine, even though you feel like death. Could you get someone to go with you to argue your corner if you feel very weak?
Johnny Wonderful Luce is home with Archie. It sounds awful about the dreadful lasting headache, what a horrible thing on top of Hyperemesis. She is a brave girl, for sure. I never heard of epidural headache - I wonder I didn't get it, as I seemed to get just about everything else lol.
LucindaE
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