Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

A new thread needed here already! Lovely Grumblin who started the second one, may be actually having that baby at this minute!

I hope this will be a source of support for present sufferers and ex sufferers alike and also worried family members.

I want particularly to mention my favourite feline FluffyWhiteKittens, who has been so invaluable a source of support on the old threads, and MOH, who has slaved to produce articles full of useful information and links to useful websites, LaTrucha, lovely CaramelloKoalaLover, Grumblin, NitNat, La, Lottie, Grandmagain, MaryLou, Cocoanuts and so many that I cannot name everyone for fear that the current sufferer may became annoyed at the long list...

Never worry about tmi or moaning. When suffering one has to discuss things that would make most people go weak at the knees and to have a good moan can help enormously with an illness where there is still a lot of ignorance and sometimes insensitive treatment.

It might help to remember - when you are at your worst - the words in that Eastern story.
'This Too Shall Pass.'

LucindaE
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kids to school vom. trying to get them ready while holding in the vomit and not trying to lose my temper with them because its really not there fault i feel like crap. then my little boy being all worried and crying because mummy wont stop being sick.

oh spooks you poor thing. The school & work run was always a vom flashpoint for me too. It's truly awful trying to get dc's ready when you just want to lie down. Poor you I was sick in school one morning - horrible school receptionist wouldn't let me be sick in the nearest toilet cos it was the staff's, made me go to the childrens one. Beeeatch. How are you now?

coconuts I have size 4 feet & all 3 of my babies have come out so quickly I tore. I think alot of it is just down to what position the baby is in.

luce fingers crossed your DS does a flip and goes head down between now and cons appt. ELCS are usually very calm though, its the EMCS that I fear.

nitnat I hope you are not going to be climbing any eaves in your condition!

lucinda my diet at the end was v.simple & v.boring!

Breakfast - 1 slice of white toast with crunchy peanut butter & a tiny cup of coffee; anything else was a complete fail and set me up for a puke day.
Lunch - an apple or melon & a cheese or ham sandwich (plain) with fizzy water, slice of lemon and ice.
Dinner - Half a jacket potato with butter, salt and if I was feeling ok a bit of cheese or a plate of mash & gravy or some potato waffles with fizzy water, slice of lemon and ice. I could manage a bit of broccoli & green beans but all other veg was out.

Dairy was out (milk was my nemesis) sugar made me v.ill, salad was hit & miss as was meat, could sometimes keep down a bit of roast chicken, icy lemonade was ok but didn't stay down for long. I can really tell I haven't eaten a big range of foods for ages because my skin is really dry & sallow and my cheeks are sunken.

I am now back in my size 10 jeans 7 days post birth but its not something I'm proud or particularly impressed about because my body has really suffered for it. I'd rather have loads of baby weight to shift than to have gone through the past 8 months of vom - my heart sinks when I read early HG's impact on women like spooks& alpine and the crappy response people get from health professionals. The feeling that if you move you'll be sick is one I never want to experience ever again.

Bah!
Had repeat blood test on Monday. Iron has not gone up at all. Couldnt take the ferrous fumarate as it caused projectile vom. Have had £5k worth of Spatone and still nada. Anyway I have no choice now so have to try the tablets again. Took one at midnight last night and was then awake for hours feeling sick. No vom though. And just noticed I'm supposed to take 2 a day. Bleargh.

Hi all,
Just popping on to say hi, and welcome to all the newbies. The early weeks of HG are so horrible, I really feel for you all. And it IS depressing, there's no doubt. But as NitNat said, this thread helps a lot - I've found it so helpful in so many ways - informative, sympathetic, and just helps knowing there ARE other people out there who have been through it and who truly understand what you're going through, even when it feels sometimes as though nobody does. Hang in there!
Hope all those on the brink of the entering the pink castle are feeling OK and not too uncomfortable, especially in the heat. I remember when my HG was at it's worst it was still early spring and so easy to cosy up under the duvet - now when I feel rotten it's not the same lying sweating and groaning on the sofa!
I've been away in Oxford for two days for work. Was hot and very tiring, but managed with the help of my trusty friend cyclizine to have no voms, which was a big relief. As soon as I walked in the front door last night though, I ran straight for the bathroom for a big vom. Strange how my body seems to (mainly) be able to hold it in when I'm out and about, because so often when I walk through the front door I have to make for the loo in a hurry!
Hope everyone's having an OK day with as few voms as possible! :)
Oh and Coconuts, I'm in shock about that woman's rude comments! Outrageous! I find it so irritating that when you're pregnant people feel completely entitled to comment freely on your size - I have one friend who, every time I see her, says 'oh my goodness, you're HUGE! It's not just the bump, you're putting weight on EVERYWHERE! Can't believe you still have x months to go!' etc etc - I find it so irritating and frankly quite offensive!

Spooks Poor poor you, sending you cyber hugs, it is too bad, hang on, you are suffering the worst stage now. How are iced lollies as a source of hydration/comfort? It is worrying for LO's ( I didn't have one, but I have heard much of how concerned they are) but I have heard too how quickly they get over it. The school rush is bad enough when you feel OK.
Grumblin What a mean receptionist ! How could another woman be so unsympathetic? So what if it was the staff one? I hope her trousers fall down in a supermarket (that truly did start happening to me once). Thanks for details of diet, that is useful. I am sure you will soon be blooming again. It wasn't only the Hyperemesis, you had to work and look after a family too, I am sure I don't know how you did it.
Pearl A 'Welcome Home' from the loo is not what you want! You must be a very tidy puker if you manage to keep it in until home.Re: comments, my swollen breasts and bottom aroused remark. How often is the puking now, Ihope infrequent?
TheOnly I hope no more bile runs?
NitNat Poor you, how awful being kept awake feeling sick, everything seems worse then. It was so with me and the iron pills. I am trying to think of somehting, and can't, not enough chemical knowledge.
Alpine and other newbies How are you today?
Lottie Still delighted for you.
LucindaE
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Grumblin
now tell us what lovely foods you've treated yourself to since giving birth!

nitnat That list would be too long! I have eaten everything I can get my hands on. Won't be a size 10 for long but I don't give a crap, I'm enjoying the cake too much!

Hi can I join you? Never posted on here before but I am currently pg with my third child and suffering HG for the third time, I'm nearly 9 weeks now and have just got out of hospital after a 5 day admission.
My first pg the sickness lasted till about 18 weeks, the 2nd the full 40 weeks and 5 hospital admissions so I'm just hoping this one isn't that bad.

I'm so pleased to have found other people who understand what it's like, I can honestly say I wouldn't wish HG on my worst enemy, I look forward to keeping in touch over the next few months and once I'm not feeling so crappy maybe offer support to anybody else suffering, for now it takes all my time to string a sentance together.

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Welcome Tink glad you've found the thread - gosh another 3rd time HG'er - think we have at least three now. You are brave to get on the baby bus again! 9 weeks is just about the worst time isn't it. How was hospital? Nice nurses and IV drugs?

Welcome Tink from me too. As NitNat says too, third timer, that is courageous.You are a vetaran, so it would be presumptious to give advice, can give sympathy, anyway. Which drinks, if any, can you stand? Feel free to moan here. What meds have they put you on?
Grumblin Do you find that home made soup is tempting for giving you much needed energy? How is Seren. Did you say she was an eight pounder?!

LucindaE
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Welcome Tink! I think I peaked at 9 weeks, at 12 weeks now Ive found I can control my puking with regular Ondansetron and plenty of rest, I'm one of the lucky ones! I hope it doesnt last for the full 40 weeks....have you got anti-emetics? You are very brave going for a third time, this is my third pregnancy and 1st time HG, so its all been a big shock!

Grumblin how is baby and all that lovely food? Everyone is worried about my weight now because i'm still size 6 and 12 weeks now, so I know how you feel, its great to fit in your clothes, but I'd much rather put it on! I hate my grey skin and guant cheeks.....

spooks you poor thing, no way would I have managed with other small children when I was at my peak, I have deapest sympathy for you!

Lucinda was it you who recommended Angel sounds fetal monitor? I cant remember if it was Lottie grumblin nitnat or you without looking back through this thread....but it came on monday and I've found the heartbeat no problem since last night, its 160 bpm and like a racing horse.....its great! I'd defo recommend one, I got mine brand new off amazon for only £16, so its a bargain and stops my constant worry!

Big waves to everyone! xx

angel I think it was me. So glad you got one :) They are amazing. just try not to get addicted to using it, try limiting yourself to once or twice a week, to save your sanity.

tink welcome, three times, gosh you're a stronger woman than me. A little further up is the link to MOH's website. It may be useful to you :) Feel free

spook tink and alpine add yourselves to our list!!

I have come bearing good news everyone.....

I have just drunk two full glasses of tap water. I haven't been able to drink plain water since about 6 weeks. This is amazing for me!!!

Tink oh dear 9 weeks, it's truly the pits and really feel for you. Welcome veteran sufferer and do moan as much as you need on here -no such thing as TMI :)
Pearl I agree, being with bump should not give all free licence to comment on size (of bump, baps or bits!) Last stage and become huge again so getting used to comments such as 'crikey how many you got in there' or 'you're a big un'... And you're a rude knob. That said don't care as so happy to be eating well at last and feel for those with HG whole way thru as per poor Grumblin (curbing envy at size 10 jean wearing - honest!)
Luce hopefully baby turns for you - not cause I'm trying to win race or anything ;) If not though have also ELCs much better experience and at least you know birthday in advance.
theonly you must be counting down days to mat leave now, hopefully no more bile runs.

Lucinda, in answer to your question, still stuck on 1-2 voms most days, although occasionally I skip a day. But I manage to eat quite a lot on the cyclizine, indeed eating a lot of stodgy bland food helps me to feel better, hence the drastic weight gain!
And Tink, welcome. I have often had that very thought, that I wouldn't wish HG on my worst enemy. It's the pits.

god i feel really bad reading all these. I remember what that was all like and am amazed that i have been so much better since about 25Wks, with bouts here and there. You all give me hope that having kids is so worth it you do it again even knowing it might happen again. I really dont think i could mentally cope with those first 12weeks and a child to look after too! It amazes me how you actually do it. I barely look after myself even now am better ha ha. OH really does do so much.

Morning bile run again. I think its the heat more than anything else. Had to have fan on me all night. OH was frozen and turned off at half 6. 5 minutes later bile run.....does anyone else find they panic if they dont have a breeze on their face? I feel like i might suffocate if i am not a little bit cold from outside air or air con (my poor office. They all wearing jumpers and i still too hot).

And Coconuts, meant to say, congrats on the tap water! I've not touched a glass of water since week 7!

coconuts , you were the only one I didnt mention, Sorry! Thanks for the advice, and yes, Ive just been having another listen *(slap my wrists, 2nd time today), but I only got it a couple of days ago, so I'm sure I'll dwindle off using it! Oh and how do I add myself to the list, I've been missed off, my EDD is 22/01/2012, although it might change at my dating scan on tuesday! eeek I've hit 12 weeks.....I might actually calm down and relax! Well as much as I can in between puking! and well done on the tap water, I have spells where I cant even look at the stuff, but if its bottled and freezing I can sometimes stomach it in sips :)

hi everyone. I think I'm "trying too hard". I was going to log on this morning and tell you how I don't think it's "that bad" and then I had to admit to myself that I'm sleeping propped up to try and prevent myself vomming in my sleep and that I can feel my glass of water threatening to make a re-appearance. :( Also, wtf do they put in those folic acid tablets? I know I should take them, but every time I do, I vom. :( I am sick of waking up with the sensation of bile racing up my oesophagus.

I'm on my 3rd week off work (hols) and am back on Monday and absolutely dreading it. Unfortunately I do a job which requires my brain to be present and alert like a 19 year old called Rufus at Sandhurst. :( And I work with men. :( And I have an appraisal on Monday. And my MIL is arriving. That is a major positive though - she's bloody lovely and will pick up the slack for me.

angel I think you're amazingly brave. We want 3 too (more if we could afford it/I wasn't so ancient ) - but I don't know if I can keep doing this to myself.

I'm trying to stay away from the "eat-to-keep-it-at-bay" philosophy this time as it didn't help last time and I just put on a stone+ during the first trimester. This time I'm eating much less and still feel sick.

morning, it was a good night last night no vomit yeah. dp made dinner and cake(orange polenta no less) and a ice evening was had by all. makig up for it this morning though. i hate dry retching in the toilet there is nothing there to come up except bile but you just keep going and one of my kids had done a wee and not flushed yuk
oh i wasn't going to add my self to the list till i had my dating scan.
welcome tink i am on number 4, i think we secretly must hate ourselves
yeah to tap water.

angel just go back and find the most recent updated list, copy it, paste it into a new message and before hitting post just put your details in where they need to be. Et voila!

Thanks for the welcome everyone, I'm honestly not brave (more stupid!!) this baby wasn't planned, we always wanted a third but I don't think I would've ever conciously made the decision! With drinks I'm trying to drink lucozade original(can't stomach the orange) and just orange squash, I usually live on coffee but just can't drink it. The hospital staff were really good this time, 3 days on IV and injecting cyclizine, I've been on phenargan since the day I found out and have also had 3 sessions of accupuncture which unfortunately didn't help.

Spooks my DH has been told he is having the snip after this one, I can't do it again!

Angel I'm really hoping this gets a bit easier by 12 weeks, we're going on holiday to Portugal and I'm really nervous in case I get bad over there.

Just a quick question ladies, I seem to be being sick lots of bile, I don't remember this much from the first 2, it's just literally pouring out of me, has anybody else found this?

I'm in work today and have managed 3 days this week, I'm very proud of myself as working and looking after the kids whilst being sick 20 times a day is not bloody easy!

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Wanders nonchalantly in and pretends she hasn't not posted for ages...
Congratulations Grumblin and Lottie, hands round cake and nipple cream and plumps cushions.
For all those due October/November time we went away for a few days to Norfolk and had a lovely time, this time next year you will have gorgeous babies to take on Holiday yourself and HG will be a dim and distant nightmare...
Welcome newbies, grab a spitty sick bucket, pop your anti emetic of choice and settle down for the long haul.
Moh I still haven't got round to looking at your website but will be visiting soon and willing to put name down for support.
Tink I always had lots of bile to deal with and as theonly has pointed out hot weather really does seem to make it worse.
Alpine pony I will be the High Priestess of Ondanestron rather than cyclizine, as the nice midwife in hospital pointed out I have expensive tastes!
For those of you in the early stages please try not to do too much, get as much help as possible and I forbid any lawn mowing :)
Hands out medals to those brave/mad enough to go forhg baby 3 and above.
As regards piling during labour you can think of it fondly as your farewell to HG final vom (unless you're very unlucky of course).

Not sure what piling is ( although brings back bad memories of last few weeks of pregnancy and bum issues, also reminds me to say I have fybogel stuff if anyone wants me to passit on :) ) but still getting used to auto correct - obviously should be puking.

Hello everyone! Please can I join you guys? I'm pregnant with my 1st and will be 8 weeks tomorrow. Have had to tell most people at work as the toilet seems to have become my new office! Dr mentioned hyperemesis yesterday after I'd been sick 13 times before my appointment with him at 11. Got tested for ketones yesterday but that came back ok so no hospital admission, being tested again on monday

Thanks coconuts i'll give it a go!

Tink i had the dry heaving and then copius amounts of bile in my weeks 7-10, I used to wonder where it came from since I was hardly drinking! I find that some days all I can drink is lucozade, but I prefer the orange.....I'll probably have a hyper child with all that sugar haha! I'm also going away next sunday to Turkey, I'll be 13 weeks and 2 weeks in 100 degree heat is just not appealing it the minute, but at least the maid will clean the toilet daily of my puke! i plan to live on a lilo in the pool with ice lollies in my mouth...oh god...I hope I dont puke in the pool!

Alpine this is my third pregnancy, but I didnt have HG with my first two and I lost the second one earlier this year. So I wished for morning sickness this time as a sign of a healthy pregnancy, and I certainly got it! Its been a living nightmare for week 5 and from week 6 to week 11 I didnt have a life at all and barely left my bed! I think DP would love another after this one, but I am too ancient (37) and I dont think I could hack the HG again, I've just got to this week and feel I can handle it with my anti-sickness meds and careful eating (usually lots of unhealthy stuff) and I'm still losing weight....I'm down to 7.5 stone now, so its not a glowing pregnancy! dont you just hate those glowing pregnant mums and I look like I've crawled out of a grave!
fluffy I too am a ondansetron Priestess, bloody good stuff, I dont think I'd be living without it....I still count down the hours to my next dose and often cheat and take it an hour early! Oh and I admit to lawn mowing this week, and yes I regretted it.....my faithful friend vomit decided to join me in the garden....its getting a regular thing me and my vomit in the garden....the neighbours probably think I'm a plonky haha!
Big waves to everyone else xx