Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

A new thread needed here already! Lovely Grumblin who started the second one, may be actually having that baby at this minute!

I hope this will be a source of support for present sufferers and ex sufferers alike and also worried family members.

I want particularly to mention my favourite feline FluffyWhiteKittens, who has been so invaluable a source of support on the old threads, and MOH, who has slaved to produce articles full of useful information and links to useful websites, LaTrucha, lovely CaramelloKoalaLover, Grumblin, NitNat, La, Lottie, Grandmagain, MaryLou, Cocoanuts and so many that I cannot name everyone for fear that the current sufferer may became annoyed at the long list...

Never worry about tmi or moaning. When suffering one has to discuss things that would make most people go weak at the knees and to have a good moan can help enormously with an illness where there is still a lot of ignorance and sometimes insensitive treatment.

It might help to remember - when you are at your worst - the words in that Eastern story.
'This Too Shall Pass.'

LucindaE
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i will probably have to be careful what i take as i am on anti convulsion medication but i am sure there is some thing that wont clash with it. on the plus side i wont have to pay prescription costs if they do prescribe me some thing. i had a similar thing from a consultant who did my scan for ds. he said my thats a big baby, i mean i know your not a small lady but my that is a big baby. you might have some trouble getting him out of there. he refereed me to another consultant who said oh i would be worried if you were a slight woman but you are a robust thing you will have no problems. thanks guys i mean really way to call a girl fat. your right a lovely i should have just thrown up on them he was 10.5 in the end, big but did it warrant that i dont think so.

My DD was 9.5. I often feel grateful I am not petite else I would have had troubles! I was just so shocked she actually wanted to engage in a conversation about the size of my vagina! If she was an OB/GYN then maybe so but a checkout woman in Wilkos... no thanks!!

Cyclizine are only a form of antihistamine so I'm sure they wouldn't clash but obviously I'm not pharmaceutical expert and like I say, there are so many that I'm sure there would be something.

Here is a link to the website MOH has built you and alpine may find some useful information there.

coconuts Times must've changed because I can't imagine any situation for it being appropriate for a non-medical professional or nice man in a club to pass comment upon my vagina.

I thought cyclizine was originally designed to combat sea-sickness, but it turned it it's a super wonder drug. Any which way, when I'm through I'm building a temple and all who wish to worship are welcome. You will all be provided with a discrete plastic bowl with flip & clip lid for the duration of your stay.

dont ya just love over friendly checkout staff. you should have offered to show her your vagina just to put her mind at ease.

Good idea! And with the mirrors they have set up to check you're not hiding stuff in your trolley you could've just inched your skirt up a little and positioned your vanity mirror... could go horribly wrong though!

I was wearing a lovely maxi dress that would have shown things very easily!!

maybe that was it maybe she thought you were stealing things up your bump. have to say reading that site is actually making me cry. i use to say to my friends i didnt understand how women could work when they were pregnant at least at first because i would never have managed it. and looking at the suggested foods, milk shakes and plain crisps was all i could eat i remember them from my last pregnancy. i just dont want to get as depressed as i did before, but i think knowing there is a reason for it will really help. need to stop rambling about it now sorry.

You are not rambling. That is what this thread is for. If you do work, get yourself signed off. This is a medical condition and you have every right to be signed off. Eat what you can eat regardless of how healthy/unhealthy it is. The baby will be fine in there and will surprisingly thrive no matter what you eat. Fluids are the most impoortant thing.

hi to all newbies. I see you've been given a link to our new website (I say our as it's had input from lots of us on this thread). If you want some useful stuff to take to your doctors, print off the documents on the documents page of the site sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/documents and also the treatment algorithms from the ACOG and the SOCG which are given in the links on the obtaining treatment page sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/treatments/obtaining-treatment
Some GPs are genuinely ignorant of the latest treatment protocols and will find this useful reading. We have had successful cases where women take this literature to a doc who has refused treatment then after reading it they wise up and start dishing out the pills. At the very least they'll realise they need to refer you to an OB. Good luck.

Coconuts 'My dear, how familiar!' Indeed, you should have given her a flash just to see her face...SpookI suppose they mean hip width rather than fat on said hips? I thought D/D was a whopper for a smallish women - just over five foot five - she was eight pounds seven, but I must have hips enough as nobody seemed bothered!
Spook Was it you who was troubled re: stairs? Hope you saw my shuffling suggestion, by the way, when I said I had been ill I meant after the birth, I was fine except for heartburn later on in pregnancy.
I hesitate to suggest it again - results so variable - but Acupunture really helped me. Expensive, though...
LucindaE
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Alpine Temple of worship, bowl with clip lol. I see you have as strange a sense of humour as me and some others here...
LucindaE
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Thanks!

I was in your neck of the woods last week actually - various stops between Llandod and Aber. Walking slowly with a slightly green look about me. Tried to do the dancing game in the arcade on the pier. Oh dear. Co-ordination with morning sickness? My boyfriend can't dance and he was on 34,000 when I was on 0 , yes, Zero!

coconuts, i think i would have been tempted to reply "actually i have a massive bucket fanny so it shouldn't be a problem, i guess that was the same for you?" but she prob wouldnt of batted an eyelid!

Hello alpine and spooks! Glad you both still have kept yr sense of humour despite feeling like death. And stop doing crazy bin changing, lawn mowing! Best get other people used to doing it for you now so when you start feeling better you dont have to start doing it again. Am pretty sure i shall never have to do lots of things ever again (unless OH reads this, then am in trouble).

Not been too bad this past week. Starting to worry about puking during birth. Am fully expecting it and am sure i will from gas and air and deffo with anything stronger. I am starting to get a phobia of being sick but more in case it doesn't stop again! I did laugh at OH be so ill Fri night after too much alcohol. In fact he was ill for whole of Saturday whilst i laughed a lot. I was like that for months and it wasnt self inflicted. Bless him he really thought he was going to die

sorry to all missed am on fone waiting to be fed. Yes, 34Wks and still claiming the kitchen makes me feel strange ;)

< Skipswaddles in, clutching huge bowl of Granny Smith apples

Evening current and ex-pukers and welcome/sorry you're here to poorlysick spooks and alpine

Who was worrying about lack of cyclizine? I have some spares if anyone needs them just PM me.
I'm too bloody hot. I kid you not I thought my waters had broken in bed this morning but a detailed "investigation" revealed it was just a pool of sweat.
Baby still facing wrong way.

I've had my 40 week rummaging appointment moved forward to next week (gah!) as the consultant is overbooked and I have to see a different one.

Sorry that wasn't meant to be a ME ME ME update, DH's crap computer keeps running off and pressing "post" when I am typing

Congrats and to Lottie on the birth of Charlie. Sorry about General Puke's last stand but sooooo glad it has gone for good now and CS not proving too horrible. Did you manage to vomit on anyone in authority? Scones and blackcurrant pie now defrosting for you.

La how are you feeling? Hope not too waddly and getting some sleep? Are you defo having CS? Remember you had long 2nd stage and epis/ventouse like me. Eek - does that mean I should have one?

Spooks this thread has saved me from getting as depressed as last time. Hope you find similar effect. Surprising what comparing notes on foods of the week and colour/texture/quantity/timing of vomit will do for you. Can't believe you tried to mow lawn the minute you felt better. And you too Alpine stop your reckless bin emptying! We've all pretty much concluded that such "I'm cured!" rebound activity brings on the vom again.

Theonly am also worrying about puking in labour. Am much more prone to random puking this time round so will not be surprised.

Coconuts at inappropriate Wilko's woman. I am sure your fanjo is perfectly capable of such a feat

oh i love owls!

ahh nitnat not long at all! eeek!

and i meant to say, glad to see bike back, and its good you havent had to use the extra cyclazine.......i love how we "recycle" our drugs (it is a waste to just take them to the chemist to throw away though!)

i spoke too soon yesterday......vom vom vom this morning. i think its the heat. bloody headache wont shift either. pretty sure i should be getting ready for work now not on the internet....oops

theonly I love owls too. Bloody hell how on earth have you shuftied up the list so quick?! Am . The heat def makes vom worse, I was sick as a dog last Monday (30 degrees here) so having my 'rummage' then giving birth after a pukey day was surprisingly easy. The end is near my dear.

nitnat OMG (I never use that phrase but seems appropriate in this case) if you overtake la she'll have you! How are you feeling is excitement kicking in? How is the larvae situation (I will never get over the mental image of one dropping on your bed).

la Nipple tweaking is a GOOD IDEA. Toughen them up. Mine are killing me as DD is a constant feeder so they're all cracked & manky. Giving them a bit of a go to prepare them for feeding is the right path, mine hadn't been touched for months and now they're really sensitive. Sorry to hear of CS worries, seeing women who had CS come back from theatre on the postnatal ward made me so scared of them.

lottie Big congratulations on the birth of Charlie. He is massive!!!! Did he get stuck? EMCS sounds scary. Hope you're doing ok.

bike Good to hear you're back. How's life/pukes?

johnny & luce Not long now until your DS arrives. How are you both feeling?

coconuts at vagina convo woman. It's so easy to think of witty retorts afterwards isn't it. Cheeky cow. Are you tall then? I'm tiny (5ft 3) and everyone keeps saying how did you manage to squeeze an nearly 8lb baby out? I just say as it was my third I just sneezed. Soon shuts them up.

lucinda I am heading to Wales (woo-hoo, I'm a fanatic of the country my favourite place in the world is Harlech, my favourite band is Super Furry Animals and I love the accent) we're booking a holiday there today.

Newbies alpine, spooks et al welcome. I will be around more often now I've got through the first week of newborn feeding frenzy and I'm looking forward to getting to know you/hand holding/back patting. Sorry you've had to join a HG thread though. HG is evil.

MOH website is cracking. I have been spreading the word round to the midwives who've been coming and they said they've found it v.informative for them as health professionals. Health Visitors next. Hope that's ok?

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thank you for the kind welcomes it really is lovely to have people that understand how truly crap it feels. congrats to all the babys born hope you are enjoying you time with you little ones. you think mowing is bad i went to play golf the other day and ended up throwing up in an m and s garage toilet. that was disgusting you think m and s would have better quality toilets even if it is a garage.

Morning Grumblin you seem v chirpy for 1 week past delivery! Is baby Seren behaving herself? Sorry about your nipple situation - am dreading similar but not sure I can persuade myself to tweak. Wonder if Amazon do a Slendertone for nipples? Will add to today's google list.

Larvae were sent orf for investigation and were found to be blowfly larvae. Nice. They stopped appearing as soon as they started but hope no repeat performances next year - am going to get up to eaves with some silicon/cement/cillit bang or whatever and block all entrances and exits for birds

Spooks eek at golf-induced M&S Garage puke. M&S have gone down in my estimation since the corked wine incident. Now if John Lewis did garages....

Waves to all :)

HB I think puking in labour is totally normal (I have a funny story sbout mine) but it is definitely the fear that it won't stop and can only be controlled by drugs that worry me. Loving your reply to crazy fanjo lady, I wish I was quick witted.... I also have a headache from hell, must be the heat.

Nitnat I'm also up there with the complaints. I have been writing letters of complaints left, right and centre lately. One to vodafone after a mast went down in our area and they lied to us for a week that it was our broken phone. I proved them wrong and got credit on our account after 10 days of zero coverage. I have also complained to Sky for their shitty service with the Haye/Klitschko debacle. Am currently trying to find other people to complain to!!

Oh and I hate hate hate birds so please keep the owls to yourselves

And regarding your larvae, I think I have a similar problem in my bathroom only I have caterpillar/maggot/centipede things coming out from behind my tiling. Next time I see one I'm going to try and catch it and then call my Landlord as it is pretty gross. They only seem to come out when I clean the wall and then obviously the water ends up washing them away/drowning them so will have to make a trap!! If they come out while I'm taking a bath I'll be moving house!

grumblin Yes am 5ft 10 so pretty tall for a girl as everyone always says. Before DD I was only a size 10/12 and went up to a 14 after birth. Managed to get back down to a 12 before falling preg with this one so hopefully I can shift the weight easily. Don't they say your ability to get a baby out is all down to the size of your feet? I struggled to get DD out and I'm a size 7 (ended up with epi and ventouse) but I have pretty wide hips so it is pretty confusing.

And tweaking nipples? Really? Cannot bear to touch mine. I think I'm really going to struggle to BF because they are just so painful. If I'm not wearing a bra I cannot even bear to have my PJ top touching them.

spook and alpine hope you are both ok today. I have some spare cyclizine somewhere too, let me know if anyone wants any :)

hi everyone, as spook said, thank you ever so much all of you for making us feel so welcome and for not having a wobbly when I puked on the carpet.

I know why grumblin is so chipper - newborns are easy compared to HG!

Just back from my mw who said if (paraphrasing here) cyclizine makes me happy - keep necking it. :)

I have "childbearing" hips & massive hands & feet. Alas, nobody told my cervix it was supposed to open like a rose on a dewy morning.

Loving how chipper all are despite pukes in shitty places, coping with newborn &/or sore nips... I'm also getting through a long list of compaints, I swear they see u waddling to customer services and fear enters their eyes.

Coconuts cheeky cow - successful porn career or too posh to push retorts spring to mind.

I can add offer of leftover cyclizine if needed. alpine & spook echo others just rest when u can and bugger the cleaning!

Thanks to Lottie, Bike and Alpine for CS tips - much appreciated. Nitnat potential CS and avoiding prolonged 2nd stage is due to fac now know about EDS (genetic connective tissue prob) and known issues with tearing and prolapses etc so just case of being extra careful with me. So no chance of water birth with angels singing this time either!

Just off to bounce on pilates ball whilst tweaking nips in effort to trip Nitnat up before finishng line ;)

Hi everyone, especially newbies. Agree Cyclazine (sp?) is good but to be honest dark humour is the only medicine that truely works!! (you'll find plenty of that on here so make sure you stick around!)

grumblin the nerves are starting to kick in now definitely! Baby is still stubbornly transverse so if he hasn't flipped by MW appointment next wed will be referred for scan and probabaly ELCS. nitnat and LA not trying to jump the queue honest!!

MOH the website is looking fab the work that must have gone into it, you should be really proud.

Anyway can't believe we're nearly at the end! The support we've had from this thread all the way through is really humbling, it's hard to imagine how we would have got through the really bad times if we hadn't stumbled accross this site.

So many thanks to everyone, will update again when we have some more anwers.

Luce
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I agree! Everyone in admirable spirits, how do you do it? Spook Sympathies re nasty puking in M and S. Golf?! Such energy.
Alpine Aber, and dancing games? Everyone behaving so normally...Was it a long journey?
Grumblin Lovely to hear from you, how is Seren? Harlech is lovely. Do you like 'Men of Harlech'? If NitNat is a music teacher, maybe she has played that at some time? Have a wonderful holiday. At the end, what sort of average diet as a sufferer of three throughout bouts of Hyperemesis did you manage on a day? I am sure that is info that would be really useful for MOH's site.
Luce Great day approaches. How are you now?
Back on in a minute, signing off in case system crashes as it has twice today.
LucindaE
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TheOnly Oh, no about return of Bile Run. I do hope that is just today.
And headache too, nasty.
Coconuts And you with a headache too?
I wish I was five foot ten, size seven feet is small for someone so statesque/Junoesque. Still can't get over rudeness of checkout women.
Luce I remember when you began to suffer horribly, I had 'one of my feelings' urging me to look at ordinary threads on m/s, saw Johnny's anxious post so replied, thinking 'this sounds like good old Hyperemesis'...I think Caramel had already posted a reply...
NitNat Good luck with ball, I hope you and LA give birth simultaneously?
LA sorry about no chance of blissful water birth.
LucindaE
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