The October Baby Bus

[arabella36]

Will anyone join a new baby bus with me?

I just got a BFP this morning so its very early days for me, but I'm so excited I thought what the hell, I'll head straight for the pregnancy thread anyway

If all goes according to plan this will be DC2 and due on 2nd October. Ive enjoyed being on the October TTC bus so I thought it would be fun to continue over here.

I have several reasons:

1. It contains thimerosol; mercury crosses the placenta.

2. I had H1N1 last year, and whilst I know the current vaccination contains other strains of influenza, it has never been the norm to vaccinate otherwise healthy pregnant women against influenza, so why start now?

3. H1N1 is most threatening to pregnancies in the second and third trimesters. By the time I am second trimester it will be well and truly spring, certainly past the early winter influenza peak time.

4. H1N1 is most likely to negatively affect pregnant women who are obese and/or have very low serum vitamin D3 levels. I weigh 49kg and had my D3 level tested as part of my pre-conception tests - after supplementing for the past few months it was found to be in the optimal range.

5. When I was at university we med students were always taught that pregnant women were not to receive any vaccinations (outside of exceptional circumstances.)

I am sure there are some women for whom the vaccination would pose more of a benefit than a threat; I do not consider myself one of them.

Good luck to everyone else with the decision ahead.

Ok just because I am interested in this will we not be at risk of catching flu in October when we are in our third trimester?

Also molybdenum I thought only one of 10 vaccines contained mercury? can you not ask for one of the others that is not fluviren, I am disputing your decision only asking for advice on making my own.

Sorry I meant I am not disputing your decision

Thanks for that post Moly, i had already decided against it because of the two points you made in number (3). It's reassuring to hear a reasoned argument from someone else who's made the same decision.

Were there any other reasons for having your D3 checked? What are the risks with low D3? It's not a test you often hear people mentioning.

Oh man... I am worried about the flu vaccine too and am completely undecided on what I will do as we are being offered it too.

I will be watching your comments on this one closely...

My initial thoughts were "I'm getting it!" then I started thinking about all the stuff from last year about potential side effects/issues when PG women had that full H1N1 vaccine... We don't need anything else to worry about really do we?

Anyway, at the moment I am thinking I will get it as I am worried about being due in October and DS will start nursery in September so I will be exposed to everything that's going...

Sigh. Why can't swine flu just bugger right off!

I also found this webchat with David Salisbury which may help you make a decision.

Thanks for that link CrawlingInMySkin
I know quite a few people in RL who are in health care and they are either totally for or totally against the vaccine. There doesn't seem to be anyone in between. Each of them have equally scary theories on what might happen if you do/don't get vaccinated which is totally unhelpful.

I am still confused but I haven't been to see GP yet so haven't been offered the vaccine as yet. I bet I burst into tears when I get asked if I want it or not because I am soooooo worried about it AND full of hormones.

Oh, a couple of other things... I bought a cheap First Response test off t'internet and it arrived earlier. It's a very, very definite BFP so I feel a bit better now. There is another one in the box that I will have to give to DH to keep away from me for at least a few days so I don't give in a pee on that one too!

On the symptoms front, I don't have a sore back any more but quite bad (TMI ALERT) CM and massive boulder like knockers... Anyone else?

Sorry for bombarding the bus with comments today but I'm "doing housework" today so easily distracted by Mumsnet... My mind is racing too. Annoying.

Hope you're all feeling good :)

Hi Tamashii, I had the swine flu vaccine last winter during pregnancy and it was absolutely fine. I'm not going to have it this time but just because of the time of year being different.

Oh, and I have lots of CM too.

Is anyone else very emotional? I'm finding this to be one of the most prominent features so far

OMG Tamashii I know what you mean about the enourmous knockers. Mine seem to have grown since this morning. Went to work with my coat buttoning up nicely, but when I put it on to go home, I could barely do up the buttons!!!

I'm yet to decide about the swine flu jab. I tend to avoid taking unecessary vacines. I'm leaning towards not taking it at the moment.

Looking forward to the increase in norkage! So far they appear to be the same size, but my nipples feel like they've taken on the shape and, erm, 'presence' of radio dials.
Also having some low uterine twingeing.

On the plus side, my skin looks amazing :)

I've bloody well got 2 pregnancy spots on my chin. Grrrrr

arabella - I am sooooo emotional. It's driving me mad acutally as I think I'm in danger of "outing" myself, as I'm not normally so outwardly emotional!!

A quite lovely part of it though, is that I'm absolutely full of love for my DH and DS though. I always am of course, but it means I'm taking time to really appreciate and enjoy them, which is lovely:)

I wish my norks would start growing!

I feel the same as you daimbar - as in I really hope I don't cry if I have a stressful day in work or something. Would be completely unlike me. And people could guess. So many things make me feel either very happy or almost tearful. Even ads on the radio. Quite bizarre

No big norks here either sadly. Definitely fuller since quite soon after ovulation, but not even the most generous observer would call them big

Hi Girls
Glad your test results came back positive penelope
Thanks for the info on the flu jab molybdenum

I've already had the flu jab - in November, as I have asthma, could it still be a problem do you know?

Well, AF due today and I've had period-type cramps on and off all day - completley normal at this stage and I had the same with previous pregnancies, but doesn't stop you worrying does it?

I got a stronger line (which came up much quicker) on a cheapy HPT this afternoon, so that cheered me up

Arabella I feel your pain about pregnancy spots, as have one in the middle of my forehead like a third eye. I don't think my boobs are bigger, but have started to feel a little ill every now and then

Tamashii

That pretty much sums up the conversation I had with my GP last night when I went to see him. Asked about my family history of miscarriage and if there was anything I could do and he just said to talk to the midwife when I see her.

He couldn't even give me any idea of when that would be, just that he'd write this week

muffins

Fingers very much crossed for you. I did a second non-digital test on Monday and am tempted to do more, but think that might be a one-way ticket to crazytown.

Well I have made a decision re flu jab as this flu season is virtually over I am not having it, but I will have it in September, that way the baby is developed, and if we catch it after the baby is born the baby will have some immunity to it, also has they will have new stocks in it will be easier to guarantee the mercury free one.

Re boobs mine are bigger but as soon as DD spots them she sucks them dry but I have been crying and hormonal too. I have to go to the doctor today because I feinted last night (I feinted a lot on my first pg and had to have transfusions) so I am going to get a blood test done.

Hi everyone, can I join you all on the bus?

Didn't think I'd ever get to come on the pregnancy board again but got a very strong BFP this morning and now my head is spinning!

I'm 36 and I already have two boys aged 10 and 5, DS1 took 5 long years of heartache to conceive and DS2 took nearly 3 years but this time it took 1 month!!

DH has always wanted 3 children but I have always been reluctant as I didn't feel I could go through all heartache of a BFN every month but before Christmas we decided to try and just see what happened.

I've spent the last month telling myself that nothing was going to happen and now it has I'm super excited and completely terrified too.

Anyway congrats to everyone else and look forward to chatting with you all in the months ahead

Hello all, mind if i join in? albeit very tentatively?? i just got a BFP this week and it's a bit of a surprise how quickly it happened. I have 2 DC already aged 8 and 3. had a MC last year at 7weeks, so i'm hoping this bean will be healthy xx

Welcome to sunface and snowpeas and congratulations on your bfp

Good luck at the dr's CrawlingInMySkin I hope all goes well for you.

I'm glad to hear the emotions running high are normal even at this stage because I found myself crying at the news a lot yesterday (before my Dad came home thankfully!!!) and basically any baby related adverts.

I heard that a stuffy nose/sinuses is early PG related but I am pretty sure now that a raw, sore throat and coughing are not so I am loaded with the cold with a FULL bottle of Beechams All in One in the cupboard taunting me cos I can't take it. I am dosing up on the extra bottle of baby paracetomol from the GP that DS refused to take as it tastes vile but it seems to be doing something for me. Not much though!

I think I will give the flu shot a miss too if you can just get it at the start of next flu season in September - not entirely decided yet though... Damned if you do damned if you don't really...

arabella I appear to be with you on the spotty teenage skin front. My dry face has suddenly turned into an oil slick!

Used the last of my cheapie HPT's this morning and the line is slightly darker again but still not same as control. The FRER was MUCH more sensitive IMHO and I kind of wish I hadn't done the one this morning.

Digital tests - I've also been told they don't give a result until HCG is a lot lot higher than the early HPT's test for. Not entirely sure though.

Hi snowpeas & sunface and congrats on your BFP's.

I know sunface It's horrible not being able to just get totally over excited about it. I had very early MC last time I got BFP too so I have been knicker checking and testing every day since I got the early, faint BFP. DH is really excited but I am still a little bit numb about it all and just trying to hold out for a couple of weeks to see how things go.

Congratulations again :)

Tamashii the digital ones say 4 days early and were as sensitive as the normal clearbue ones if you really want to take one but I think maybe you should accept you are pg .