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Just found out I'm pregnant again and can't for the life of me remember what foods are Bad!. Remind me please

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PureBloodMuggle · 14/12/2010 21:47

The last pregnancy was supposed to be the last one ever.

Seems this is not the case.

Evenso I've let all the information fall out my head.

Please help me stick it all back in again.

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thereisalightanditnevergoesout · 14/12/2010 21:51

No pate, brie or blue cheeses, no liver, raw meat or fish.

But you can have peanuts again.

thereisalightanditnevergoesout · 14/12/2010 21:51

Oh - and congratulations!!

PureBloodMuggle · 14/12/2010 21:54

pate, brie and blue cheeses - darn it - with Chirstmas coming up and all!!!!!

Ah well least I can comfort myself with a peanut Grin

Thanks!!

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thereisalightanditnevergoesout · 14/12/2010 21:59

I know - that was bad timing, PureBloodMuggle - yep - extra peanuts!!

Leilababyno1 · 14/12/2010 22:00

You can have any cheese that IS pasturised...still lots of yummy cheeses like, mozzarella/cheddars/swiss cheeses like Edam etc...BTW Congratulations!!

thereisalightanditnevergoesout · 14/12/2010 22:03

And some unpasteurised ones too - parmesan and gruyere for example - as long as they are hard cheeses - but double check exactly the advice on this.

Panzee · 14/12/2010 22:05

Congratulations! Have a look here :)

Secondtimelucky · 14/12/2010 22:08

I always think this is interesting reading on the food front.

thereisalightanditnevergoesout · 14/12/2010 22:13

Oh - and Mr Whippy ice creams (though I know it's not really Mr Whippy weather).

clairefromsteps · 14/12/2010 22:16

My midwife told me te other week that bloody tinned tuna is banned now as well - apparently it has high levels of mercury.

Concordia · 14/12/2010 22:18

oops i ate a lot of tinned tuna when pregnant with ds

thereisalightanditnevergoesout · 14/12/2010 22:18

I think you can have tinned tuna - but you can only have a very small weekly amount. Hadn't heard that it was banned Confused.

Secondtimelucky · 14/12/2010 22:18

Tuna isn't banned. The limit is something like four tins a week!

Secondtimelucky · 14/12/2010 22:19

Yes, just checked FSA link from Panzee. FOUR tins. No way could I eat that in a week...

Leilababyno1 · 14/12/2010 22:48

The current NHS guidelines suggest a maximum of 2 tins per week.

tulipgrower · 14/12/2010 23:00

allowed (according to my Doc.): max. 3 small cups of coffee per day, max. 175ml of wine or beer per week (new research, wasn't allowed my last time around), rare meat if you have already had toxoplasmosis.

Flutey3for2inBoots · 14/12/2010 23:02

Pickled onion monster munch are GOOD.
I ate a lot of those.

ReshapeWhileDamp · 14/12/2010 23:15

Rare meat is fine if it's something like a roast or steak - in other words, intact cuts of meat before they were cooked, because the bacteria can't get into the rare part. However, rare sausages or burgers are a bad idea! (And are for anyone)

As someone else has said, hard cheeses are fine as long as not blue, regardless of pasturisation. Goat and sheep cheese is ok if hard, and feta, regardless of whose milk it's made with, is regarded as a hard cheese! Grin

Sushi in this country is generally thought to be ok if the fish has been pre-frozen. Virtually all supermarket sushi uses frozen fish. (I had some for lunch, mmm.)

Ready meals that aren't heated up very hot are a potential source of listeria, but listeria poisoning is incredibly rare in any case, so might want to use your common sense on that one. And pate - a fresh pate you make yourself (as long as you don't use liver!) and then eat at once, is fine. THe ingredients don't suddenly metamorphise into something sinister just because you call it pate! The packaged pates in supermarkets are on the caution list because they too might contain listeria. Vacuum-packed or tinned pates are fine.

Shellfish might be best avoided if you're uncertain of the source, as they can concentrate toxins, but if they're from 'safe' sources and cooked thoroughly, they are fine too.

As far as I know, eggs with the Lion stamp on are salmonella-free and therefore, all the stuff about not eating homemade ice cream or mayo, and cooking all eggs until they bounce off the walls, is just out of date. Hmm

Basically, there isn't much I haven't been eating this pregnancy! Grin

thereisalightanditnevergoesout · 14/12/2010 23:37

I thought the pate thing was because a lot of pate (not all, I know) has liver in - rather than just avoiding because it's pate. Did that make any sense? I should be asleep!

PureBloodMuggle · 15/12/2010 18:03

Oh I think I've recalled the pate thing - it's the liver isn't it - the levels of vic A (is it A isn't it?) so I get where you are coming from

I was just on the phone to my mum who I'm staying with for Christmas and she was going on about what food to get and wines etc and all i could think was SOB SOB i want some!!! (i haven't told her yet) think I might have to make myself some lentil pate to compensate!!!

Think I can cope with limiting myself to two tins of tuna a week!!

Biggest thing I'll miss is the liver pate really as that's my big treat of Christmas - I can even live without wine as I found it made me feel ill in my last two pregnancies for whatever reason and they way I'm starting to feel now I think it's going to be the same with this one.

Once I've got over the shock (and this is one hell of a shock pregnancy!) I shall call my mum and tell her to hold back on the amount of pate she as planning on Grin

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Secondtimelucky · 16/12/2010 13:23

Tuna really is four tins, unless the NHS haven't updated their website. Both they and the FSA say the same. I filed it under 'things so remote I'm not going to worry'. I don't think I have ever in my life exceeded that threhold, pregnant or not. link

Pate is because of Liver and Listeria risk. Reshape's comment about listeria is important - a homemade pate you made 3 hours ago does not suddenly become toxic because you whizzed the ingredients in a blender. Also, vitamin A is about overall excessive consumption. I personally take the view that, depending on what else I ate that day, one small portion of homemade liver pate on Christmas day isn't going to do me any harm. But I'm like Reshape, I eat most things.

I also eat many cheese I should not. I am statistically far less likely to get listeria from this than many things not on the banned list which I do avoid - like buffets (which you are just told to take care over) and takeaways (many of which keep all sorts of things warm for long perios).

RockinRobinBird · 16/12/2010 13:25

Last time I didn't miss anything on the list because I hated them all. However, I've discovered pate in the last 3 years and I really want some :(

Laura05 · 16/12/2010 13:31

Does all pate have liver in it then? I'm really missing pate and was trying to find out if you can have some at all! Also does anyone know if meat paste is ok? people have said i can't eat that either but i don't know why?

thereisalightanditnevergoesout · 16/12/2010 13:53

RockinRobinBird - have I missed some news?

Secondtimelucky · 16/12/2010 14:01

No, Laura, it doesn't. The main issue with pate is the listeria risk. That is why they say no pate at all, even vegetable.

However, if you homemake a vegetable pate or whizz up a mackeral pate with some creme fraiche and eat it as soon as it is set (i.e. within a few hours) the listeria risk is really no different to eating the individual components. It's the sitting around once cooked aspect of commercial pates that increases the listeria risk.

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