Just found out I'm pregnant again and can't for the life of me remember what foods are Bad!. Remind me please

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The last pregnancy was supposed to be the last one ever.

Seems this is not the case.

Evenso I've let all the information fall out my head.

Please help me stick it all back in again.

It's the same with houmous, isn't it. Nothing wrong with chickpeas - it's the sitting in the chilled cabinet that the issue. Although, I've still been eating it - I guess you just have to be aware of it.

Yes, though I think the reason houmous doesn't make it onto the banned list is because the ingredients are not ones that suffer particularly from sitting around - no meat, no fish, no dairy.

I eat it too.

That's kind of my point about the food rules. They say 'no pate', but the listeria risk if you've made a mackerel pate at home two hours ago is no differnt to that from most other foods you might eat. Your listeria risk is probably many, many times greater eating a dodgy cheese and onion pasty from a dodgy bakery with poor hygiene/standards, but cheese and onion pasty isn't banned.

I did a lot of my own research and my eating is far more informed by food's provenance, treatment and degree of processing than whether it is on or off a list. But then, I'm awkward!

Early days thereisalight, very early days :)

Congratulations! Will be keeping everything crossed for you :)

Yup. For instance, I think more pregnant women in the EU contracted listeria through eating badly washed salads than through eating any sort of cheese. (NB, this is a vaguely-remembered and unsubstantiated factoid but I did read it once. ) Listeria is just incredibly rare. The 'banned' foods because of it are on the list through entirely theoretical risks, and there are, as SecondTimeLucky points out, other foods that can potentially be listeria sources that are not 'banned'.

Incidentally, as grown women I really don't think we should be talking in terms of 'not being allowed' or 'banned'! We are intelligent and capable of thinking for ourselves. It's the same ethos as what your choices are when in labour. It simply isn't appropriate for some HCP to say 'well, you will not be Allowed' to do this or that.
Rant over.

Absolutely Reshape. I saw some figures once which work out that you are more likely to get killed in a traffic accident whilst pregnant than contract listeria (this accounted for pregnant women being more vulnerable to food poisoning, but was based on a pure stats for listeria, so didn't take account of either unreported cases or the fact that many of the reported cases will be in high risk groups).

Yet we don't all worry every time we get in a car. Risk is a very subjective business.