Oh God, I'm so fed up with hyperemesis....I wish I'd never got pregnant.

[pipoca]

I don't. I want this baby but I feel so crap. I'm on metaclopramide and it's helping but I'm still being sick at least twice in the morning and feel sick (and exhausted) all day. Have a 2.7 yr old.
I just want it to stop. 12 weeks now so shouldn't be long as it stopped by about 16 weeks with Ds but the though of another 4 weeks of this living hell after already having suffered 5 weeks of it makes me want to cry.
I just can't fucking stand the constant nausea. I wish it was just the puking. I can't stand feeling like I'm going to puke constantly.
Sorry. Feeling sorry for myself today.

pipoca I really really sympathise. I had very bad MS at the beginning - up until about week 14. I am now 38 weeks + 3

We had planned to conceive and were really excited and then the MS kicked in and I sank into a massive depression because of constantly feeling ill. It was appalling. I simply wasn't prepared to feel so bad ALL of the time. It wasn't just being sick, it was mainly constantly feeling sick that was the problem. I did start to doubt whether I had made the right decision in getting pregnant which looking back is such a shame when I just wanted to enjoy being pregnant and I really couldn't.

No one really gets how bad it is unless they have experienced it themselves. I do think this will probably be my only child as the thought of going through it again is unbearable.

I spent as much time as possible under the duvet with the curtains drawn just moaning to myself and trying to sip water and occasionally strong tea with hardly any milk. I lost 8 pounds in the first trimester but the midwife just said not to worry.....

I don't know how you cope with another child - I really don't, I just know that it DOES pass even though it feels like you will never feel better again. I honestly thought I would never have an appetite again because the thought of food was so vile.

You are nearly through it though. Not long to go. Do whatever you can to make yourself feel better, whether that be sleep or crying or living on lucozade or whatever.

xxx

hi
can someone give me some advice? i have been flattened by the vomiting this time around - i am only 6 weeks but have been vomiting around 6-7x a day -- i am so weak. I've always had bad vomiting even with my other 2 kids - and maybe time has made me forget how awful they were but it just feels quite severe at the moment.
i will try to see gp tomorrow - i haven't seen them about the pregnancy anyway. is there any meds that i can take? i feel guilty because i didn't take any with the other two and i'm scared it might cause something. i miscarried last dec and having tried so hard to have another one, i feel like i am failing at the first hurdle by reaching for some drugs. i can't think clearly. please help.

Yes, you can take various things. They may try you on Phenergan first, then progress to cyclizine, stemetil or metoclopramide if you're really bad.

There's also zofran, and they can hospitalise you for a while if you need to be rehydrated...you don't need to suffer without trying anything.

all of these are generally safe. One of them might work for you.

Don't be fobbed off - some GPs can be terribly unsympathetic and refuse to give you anything, so try another - there are some great ones out there who understand x

thank you. i just moved so i it will be my first time to meet the gp so i'll see how it goes. i work full time and i can't feeling like this. i just want to curl up in a ball and cry -- i am so grateful at being pregnant again and i want it all to be ok, but i just can't cope if it's like this all the time

LOL at the 'clean' thing reminds me of my last pg, with DS now 11 months old. When I felt really sick, I would find myself cleaning the entire house, in particular the kitchen, in dettol. I was obsessed and for some really odd reason it helped reduce the feelings of sickness.

I also found eating an apple, cut into tiny weeny chunks helped, as did sucking lemon/lime, drinking room temp fizzy water through a straw. and for some very very odd reason, crumpets and peanut butter (with oodles of butter) worked well. Much to the amazement of my gp

And when I say helped. I mean, stopped me from being hospitalised, enabled me to get up some days. Did not stop me from only putting on 7lb in the entire pg (DS alone was 7.5lb, thus meaning i lost weight) and did not stop the medication being needed. I was taking metaclopromide, after trying cyclizine and it doing nothing, also had omeprazole in the final months too. (and some suppositories when I was so sick I vomitted the drugs!).

For most people it passes by 17 weeks or thereabouts, so fingers crossed your end is imminent.

And I would also kill people who said ginger that word.

having a bad day today. puked my lunchtime dose of metaclopramide unfortunately. Should probably try to eat now but just feel so sick. DH has been here today and a great help and DS is at nursery all morning tomorrow so hopefully I'll feel a bit better by tommorrw lunchtime. So nauseaous. Nothing seems to help today, even sleeping seems to make me worse when I wake, only get relief by actually being unconscious.

sending you lots of sympathy and good vibes.
it will get better.

Poor you.

I had hyperemesis with ds (3) and I had it all the way through (sorry) I was horrendously sick - even woke up at night to be sick, couldnt even keep a teaspoon of water down etc etc. Ds was born at 42 (long) weeks weighing 8lb 11oz so was obviously no worse off.

Fwiw I didnt get it with dd (6weeks): with her I was sick morning and night for 18 weeks but thats 'all'.

It's so worth it.

Oh God I remember that feeling so well..I used to crave sleep just so I would have some respite!

I mentioned on another thread how my sickness this time round is the exact opposite of last time. 4 years ago I would feel fine, fine, fine....urgh, what's that at the back of my throat, quick, someone, where's the nearest bathroom....blurgh. Then I'd feel fine, and able to get on with life until the next time it happened. I thought that was really annoying, because my life had to be planned according to proximity to toilets.

BUT, now I'm desperately wishing I could have it like last time again. I'm only 7 weeks, but already I'm going insane with the constant nausea. From sitting up in the morning, to finally falling asleep, it's just seasickness all day long. I even find myself sticking my fingers down my throat in the hope that actually vomitting will make me feel better, if just for a few minutes, but nothing happens.

Ironically I have found that the feeling subsides during sex......... just a suggestion!

I remember looking forward to the 5 mins after I'd vomited because it was the only time in the whole day when I didn't feel sick.

Oh dear, poor you. I killed the other hg thread with my rant about how bad it was last time. But I really sympathise.

I did find ice lollies and pops were good, and I also kept a hankie with peppermint oil on it close by, the smell did mask the nausea momentarily. My dh told me this, he did it when running the marathon!

Good luck for the rest of your pg. I can't ever imagine being pg again, it was just so awful. Am impressed at loud lass!!

I wonder if anyone had it terrible for a first pregnancy but totally got away with it second time around. I am dreading having to go through it all again if I want a second child.

Yep third time HG for me and I'm only 7 and a bit weeks in. I know this sounds horrible and I won't bring myself to do it, I'm sure, but I've been looking terminations up online because this past week has been like a recurring nightmare. Feel emotionally wracked by it all.
Have been on cyclizine, metaclopramide (didn't do a thing, collapsed in docs last Thurs) and now on stemitil and omeprazole which fingers crossed have stopped the vomiting from 10-15 times a day to a manageable 4-5. Had to drive to an hour away meeting today for work and I nearly crashed the car from wretching. Can't go off sick because in the redundancy pool, won't find out about job until December. Bitterly regretting getting pregnant OP but what can we do? Just take one day at a time and focus on next summer

I wonder why some women are prone to it and others fly through effortlessly. I wish they would do some fecking research on it so they could help us more!

There's been some right corkers on the HELP HER website that docs have come up with kitten30. One was that the womans diet before she got pregnant was terrible so causes HG - so not true as I was running and eating healthily every day in the run up to my wedding two months ago. I read was that if you suffer from motion sickness whilst travelling you're more likely to suffer with HG, this rings true with me as I do get car/boat/plane sick. Another I heard was that if your baby is going to be ginger you get HG worse - DS1 is ginger and DS2 is white blond so not at all true in my experience.But made me laugh anyway. i reckon it's all to do with the brain, or something. (HG fog makes me completely brain dead btw)

kitten30 I had it terribly with my first. I wouldn't say I totally got away with it second time round but it was a lot better.

First time round it was constant for around 24 weeks, then tailed off over a further week or so. Oddly, it came back a couple of times, once when I had to take a plane (it was worst for a few hours before the flight, so it can't have been travel sickness) and once on my wedding day, making me think that perhaps there is a psychological element involved. I was never prescribed anything for it and didn't know enough to ask what was available.

Second time round, I only felt nauseous 'til around mid-morning and was only actually sick a handful of times. Everything smelt utterly foul all the time, though. It was better by 16 weeks.

Lots of sympathy for all of you who are going through this. It is worth it, honestly :)

Oh and I probably shouldn't say this but one of the few things that helped first time round was having a little swig of DP's guinness. It stopped the nausea long enough to get a piece of toast down.

I don't get travelsick much, which made it very ironic - used to go sailing with dh and have a happy memory of frying bacon sandwiches while everyone else was on deck throwing up & dh was joking about how I was going to be the perfect wife

LOL @ the ginger baby theory - I've never heard that before!

God I hope I dont get it as bad if I have another baby. Just to add to the ginger baby theory. My DH is ethnically middle eastern and someone said to me (someone who as soon as the words came out of her mouth I lost all respect for) 'Perhaps you have been so sick all this time because the baby is a different race to you'....FFS! Yeah that will be it...You just wonder about people's level of intellect when they come out with this kind of shit. It was so stupid that I wasnt even upset by it.

I think the sea sickness thing is a red herring. I never get any kind of travel sickness of any kind and yet I've had HG twice now. I'm trying seasickness bands anyway.
I did look into accupuncture but I can't really afford it and was told it's a session a week and might take 3 or 4 sessions to work, by which time it'll hopefully probably be easing as I'm 12 weeks now.
Feeling a bit better today, so it's very up and down. maybe that's cos I went back to bed this am after dropping DS off at nursery, I know tiredness can make it worse.

Hi Pipoca
Just wanted to let you know that I know totally how you feel!! This is my second pg with HG but have been worse with this pg than with DS, think the toddler to look after has made it so much more of a challenge, can't lie in bed all day as I did with DS . Am now 34 + 3 and still being sick up to 3/4 times a day on a bad day but generally feeling much better. I have had to fight the depression all the way through, I really know how hard it is not try and stay upbeat.

I was prescribed metraclopromide after my second hospitalisation for about 8 week (from 9 weeks to 17 weeks) of my pg and it was ok but then suddenly just stopped working. Have tried phernegen, stemtil and cyclazine since then and it has worked sometimes but not others. Have given up on meds totally now and just take something if its a very bad day.

Am counting the days till EDD and agree with loudlass, literally as soon as baby is born it just all disappears like magic...hosptial food never tasted so good

Use Mumsnet, it has been so valuable for me during this pg.

Thinking of you

I have just been prescibed meds for my vomiting.
I actually hadnt eaten anything and kept it down from Saturday night last week to Thursday night. Not eating isnt a major problem although the lethargy IS, it was more the risk of dehydration i had because i couldnt even keep water down. I worked 2 days last week, upset alot of people and could hardly stand so boss made me take time off and i literally slept all day.
Am 13+2 and its hit alot earlier this time. Normal morning sickness i can deal with BUT all day nausea and retching is horrendous. In my last pregnancies i have had MS from about 5 weeks to 12 weeks then the nausea started again from 16+ and I lost nearly 3 stone each pregnancy.
I seem to be going the same way weight loss wise this time too and have lost 12lb in 2 weeks. Even with the tablets i cant eat very much and am trying the little and often apporach and have also found that eating and drinking very cold foods and drinks makes things easier to retain!

Funnily, I always was seasick before pg, it is even worse now! But never been car sick.

My mum was violently sick and ill with me (but not my sister) - have also heard it is 'heriditary' - or at least the tendency runs in families. Poor DD...

Ginger theory is interesting, not heard it before - mum had HG with me but not sister, I am redhead, she is not. Both DTs have red hair. Maybe there's something in that???

Oh, and I think after the thalidomide scandal, no-one will ever conduct research into how to prevent pg sickness again. After all, although it feels awful, it does 'only' last 9 mths.... 9 mths of sheer utter hell!!!

pipoca ask your MW about acupuncture on the NHS, there is normally a waiting list to get put on it now. Then, if you find it passes, you can ask to be removed (or just have it anyway!) and if you are still being sick when the appointment comes up, you can go for it.

I had one session, cost £35, while waiting for the NHS place, which was 12 weeks. MW did not put me on it straight away as she said it would pass, but it did not, so be pushy (unfortunately, DH cancelled it, as when the woman phoned asking if I still needed it, he thought she was one of the private consultants I had called and said I did not need it any more, and did not tell me for 2 weeks!)

The one session worked well for me, not 100% but eased it for a few days, she said it varies from 1-2 sessions to 5-7 sessions if it is really severe.

Totally sympthathise with all of you

I had bad sickness with DS (4.5) but it lifted by week 11/12.

With this one (am now 20wks) it didn't start to lift until around week 16

I spent most of August in bed as sleeping was the only thing that made it easier. I felt sick all my waking hours, although I wasn't actually sick..I had to eat constantly just to make the sickness that teeny bit manageable...DS had to go to nursery full time and DH picked up a lot of the slack

I tried everything - sea bands, ginger etc..only thing that seemed to help a bit was salt and vinegar crisps and snickers and I then felt guilty about the peanuts!

It has really put me off having any more because it was just hell and people just do not get what it does to you. The slightest smell used to set me off and even now it has lifted considerably, I still find myself struggling on the bus if people smell of curry or garlic. I also have to have a packet of ready salted crisps each am around 10am to settle my tummy for the morning

Pisses me off that so many of us suffer like this and there doesn't seem to be that much help/understanding for it!