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9 weeks and bleeding?

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lucielooo · 06/09/2010 11:23

Hi again.. I posted last week about various concerns and went for a viability scan on Friday which showed that everything was fine but today I have started bleeding... light pink when I wipe. Only noticed about half an hour ago and seems to be a bit more each time I check..

What should I do??

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sh77 · 06/09/2010 11:30

Hi
Sorry you are facing this worry.
I would go to an EPU for another scan and get HCG levels checked today and in 2 days.
I have read on MN many cases where women spot when their period is due. Also many women bleed but it does not mean MC.
All the best.

stuffedmk · 06/09/2010 11:39

Fingers crossed for you!
Agree with sh77, get it checked out.

lucielooo · 06/09/2010 11:39

I'm 9+0 and have 30ish day cycles so could conceivable be breakthrough bleeding but I didn't get this at what would have been my first missed period.

What do I do to go to the EPU if that's not a stupid question.. do I just go straight there or do I need to get referred by midwife/docs?

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japhrimel · 06/09/2010 11:57

Call your EPU. Some do self-referral, especially if you've already been there in this pregnancy. Others insist on GP referall - in that case I'd call your GP, as you shouldn't need to actually see the GP.

lucielooo · 06/09/2010 12:01

Hi - I haven't been to the EPU my scan on Friday was through babybond but I guess if I just call my GP's office and see what they say? I'd rather not get down there to the hospital to be turned away.

Think I will see how it goes over the next hour or so, as could be nothing maybe?

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PaigeTurner · 06/09/2010 12:07

Do you have any cramps? I think just watch it for a couple of hours and see if it gets worse or you get any pains. AFAIK, it's normal to have some spotting in early pregnancy.

sh77 · 06/09/2010 12:11

agree with japhrimel - many epu's are self-referral. call them up and ask. when i was facing similar issues, i turned up and they saw me on same day. i would avoid gp if you can as there may be delay in getting referral letter.

this may help you
www.earlypregnancy.org.uk/whoarewe.asp

lucielooo · 06/09/2010 12:25

No cramps - and actually feeling worse in terms of symptoms so I have been so if it wasn't for the bleeding I'd be less worried than I have been so far... Confused (though I know symptoms aren't the be all and end all)

Thanks for the link sh77 although for some reason it's blocked by my work!

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sbeth1976 · 06/09/2010 16:39

Hi

New to all this but same thing happened to me this morning. I'm seven weeks.

Went home from work very scared and upset. Seems to have stopped now.

I had a previous miscarriage in December - this time around I haven't even made an appointment with the midwife yet in case something went wrong.

Do I need to phone the Doctor or just wait and see what happens ?

lucielooo · 07/09/2010 09:25

Hi sbeth
I think the consensus is that bleeding doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong. Mine seems to have stopped so I am not going to do anything as I suspect it was a bit of breakthrough bleeding as have been feeling quite pmt-y as well.

I see you posted this yesterday afternoon so I hope that everything is ok now? Did you speak to the doctor?

If you haven't done anything yet, and you are still worried, I can't see that there is anything to lose by calling the doctor and they may refer you for an early scan if that would help?

Thinking of you sbeth, let us know how you are getting on x

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sbeth1976 · 07/09/2010 10:01

Thank you for your message.

I phoned the Doctor last night and only managed to speak to the receptionist who told me just to stay at home and to phone back if I was worried.

So anyway I decided this morning that I needed to know one way or another - feeling sick still etc so I have managed to get an appointment at the Doctor for this morning. Don't know whether they will refer me for a scan, just going to see what happens when I get there. If it's all over I just want to know now rather than waiting.

Glad you seem to be feeling better.

Will let you know how I get on xx

lucielooo · 07/09/2010 10:44

From what I have been reading unless the bleeding is heavy then there is a good chance everything is fine.

If your doctor don't suggest it, and you want one, just ask outright if they will refer you to the EPU for a scan. They may not realise how worried you are unless you really spell it out to them, and think that just giving you some verbal reassurance is sufficient.

Good luck sbeth. Let us know how it goes :)

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Liv77 · 07/09/2010 10:57

Hi Lucieloo Sounds like I have had a similar bleed to you, bit of spotting last Thurs/Fri when 9w+5 but not heavy, just enough to leave a bit of staining in my undies (sorry if tmi). No bleeding since.
First scan was already booked in for next Thursday so am going to wait it out until then. Fingers crossed for everybody Smile

sbeth1976 · 07/09/2010 11:56

Just got back from Doctors. Tbh was just expecting to be told to go home and rest and see what happens but have been referred for a viability scan. They tried to fit me in today but no appointments so I'm booked in for tomorrow lunchtime.

I think the Doctor could see that I was very concerned and I was quite adamant that I wanted to know now one way or another.

Will have to wait and see what happens tomorrow now. I'm prepared for either a good or bad outcome ( I think ).

Will let you know xx

lucielooo · 08/09/2010 10:28

That's good that they have referred you. Best of luck today sbeth will be thinking of you this afternoon x

Good luck to you too Liv77 - I think if it's stopped then hopefully all ok.. Mine hasn't returned either which is a relief.

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sbeth1976 · 08/09/2010 22:30

Hi everyone

Was very nervous this morning and was nearly crying waiting for my scan but it showed everything was ok and there was a heartbeat.

Very relieved - still worrying a little that something will go wrong but I'm a bit more positive than I was.

Thank you for all your support and I hope everything works out ok for you all xx

lucielooo · 09/09/2010 09:31

That's fantastic news sbeth! :) :) It is such a relief to know things are ok!!

I felt such relief after my scan to know that at that point at least everything was ok.. and had ooh, at least two day off from stressing!

It's the best feeling I've had to see that little flicker on the screen and hear the hear beating :) :)

I went to a baby fair on Sunday with my sister (for her job) and burst into (happy) tears at the Babybond stand Blush bloody hormones!

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Liv77 · 16/09/2010 18:40

Just to say I had my scan today 11w+5 and all is well Smile

mumsyme2 · 21/07/2021 19:35

Ask to see the consultant and demand they put you on progesterone and maybe aspirin. I had this at 8 weeks, 10 weeks, and 12 weeks. I was repeatedly told there was no problem and that its "normal" during pregnancy. It wasn't normal. Everything I googled told me not to worry. I wish I had worried. At 13 weeks, after 2 ER visits and 2 scans being told everything was fine, I pushed a sonographer to check me via ultrasound and she discovered that I was was dilated. I was immediatly sent to EPU and told that I had a large hemotoma and was about to have a miscarriage. I asked why they hadn't caught it earlier and was told that hemotomas can show up late in scans. They Kept me at the hospital and began giving me progesterone suppositories, which immediately closed up my cervix within a few days. But sadly, the uterus was already too weak and my water broke. The baby was absolutely in perfect health, but we had to make the decision to terminate the pregnancy because I had no gestational fluid to keep her growing. My baby was 15 weeks old. I asked the doctors later why I hadn't just been prescribed progesterone early on, and they couldn't answer me. This was a completely preventable termination. Don't listen to anyone telling you that bleeding in pregnancy is normal. Pay the £250 to see a consultant just to get you started on somehting preventatively.

KeepQuietAndCarryOn · 21/07/2021 19:38

@mumsyme2

Advice is a bit late. This thread was started nearly 11 years ago.

mumsyme2 · 22/07/2021 02:59

Thanks. I wasn’t answering the question for
The poster. I was answering it for the general public, as the post still comes up in a Google search.

ginandoreos · 24/07/2021 21:46

@KeepQuietAndCarryOn

What an abrupt reaction to a heartbreaking post. I'm sure @mumsyme2 thought that perhaps somebody could benefit from this advice, if they stumbled across the thread - like I just did.

Thank you @mumsyme2 and I'm so very sorry for what you went through x

mumsyme2 · 25/07/2021 11:49

Thank you Gina, I was hoping this post would be helpful. Just to let you know, the reason I even came back on here is because I’m pregnant again and have just been diagnosed with another subchorionic hemotoma (SHC) so was doing a Google search! Clearly, if an old post has popped up for me, there’s not enough info on this topic and it’s going to pop up for a lot of other women!

What I can tell you is that SCH is the main cause of bleeding in pregnancy. I wish I knew that when I searched “bleeding in pregnancy” last time so I could have prevented it! The UK has a different attitude towards Bleeding than the US and every other country as far as I can tell. Sadly, Here, they tend to be laissez faire about it, where the others put you on immediate bed rest or modified bed rest until the bleeding subsided. At the very least Pelvic bed rest should be taken (no sex, heavy lifting over 10lbs, exercise).
Let me explain: A SCH is a blood clot between the uterus and placenta. It can start small early on and happens in about 11% or pregnancies. You don’t want it touching the placenta or it can disattach and prevent baby from getting nutrients and oxygen. You also don’t want it to start bleeding out too much because otherwise the body thinks your giving birth and starts opening the cervix to spontaneously abort! In the UK, they advise you to go about your business. Even after having multiple ones, their preventative advice is to take one baby aspirin per day and progesterone suppositories (such as in my case afteR demanding it this time). The idea is that the aspirin will thin the blood from the clot and it will “bleed out.” But like I said before, bleeding out can open the cervix - hence the progesterone prescribed which keeps the cervix closed. So that’s ONE method.

In the US and Europe, the idea is that you dont want to bleed out because of the risk on the cervix opening. And you don’t want to move because moving is what ruptures the tiny blood vessels around the blood clot - so it never has a chance to heal and keeps getting bigger and bigger! So the advice is to bedrest. By Resting, the membrane around the SCH begins to heal itself and the watery blood starts to coagulate. Once it coagulates, it’s reabsorbed back into the body. So no risk of opening the cervix.
From other forums, the complete list of what you should do:

  1. bedrest immediately
  2. don’t take aspirin or vitamin e as it thins blood (check your prenatal vitamins)
  3. drink LoADdS of water - it helps the body reabsorb the blood. don’t dehydrate by drinking alcohol
  4. take 30cc HOMEOPATHIC arnica Montana pillules 3 x per day - it helps reabsorb the blood
  5. eat loads of fresh Vitamin K - kale, spinach are the best (this coagulates blood)
  6. drink 1000-2000 mg of Vitamin C tablets dissolved in water (this strengthen the placenta). You can’t OD on Vit C.
  7. Throw chia seeds on your food to up your Iron content
  8. dilute pure cranberry juice with water (I put mine in with the Vit c tablet water). The salicylic acid prevents infections and strengthens the immune system.
  9. some doctors put you on antibiotics to ensure you don’t get an infection from an open cervix. The other thing I’ve learned is that you shouldn’t take baths or swim to prevent this. As a reminder, I had an infection that the midwives didn’t even consider an issue. In the end, it was that infection that weakened my placenta to the point of breaking my water.
  10. don’t have sex or orgasms. Sorry, but Too hard on the uterus and will break the blood vessels
  11. Bedrest until 7 days after the bleeding is gone and , rescan. From others, I’ve heard it takes 2 weeks for a significant reduction. In my case, even when I was on bed rest in the hospital with the HUGE SHC, it mostly went away after 7 days, So I KNOW, even with my unfortunate outcome That bed rest is effective.
  12. take the progesterone. That’s one thing that is easier prescribed in the UK, so take it. Even if you’re bed resting, there’s no harm in taking 200mg suppositories twice a day to ensure the service stays closed.

Now, obviously have a look on other boards, but it’s shocking how common this is and how little professional knowledge and information is out there on it. It’s unacceptable that women should have to turn to other women to get help. It’s unacceptable for midwives, sonographers and nurses to blow off bleeding in pregnancy as “just one of those things.” It’s unacceptable for them to advise that we all just run around while we’re hemorraging internally. Even this time around a Senior nurse in the Early Pregnancy unit told me that “there is NO Issue” getting on multiple long haul flights 3 days after bleeding at 6.5 weeks. Unacceptable. I’ve cancelled those flights thanks to another private doctors advice and I’m laying in bed. Oh yes speaking of….

  1. let your partner know he’ll be looking after the kids, the cooking and the cleaning! Smile
mumsyme2 · 25/07/2021 12:05

Just to give additional context - I was never diagnosed with an SCH or even told about it until I was 13 weeks and in hospital. I had sex several days before going into hospital; I went on a holiday and ran through the airport a week before hospital; I took baths almost every night. My point is, I broke a whole lot of rules because no one ever bothered to give me just a few thoughts on why I might be bleeding except for “it’s normal..” so I never even had a chance to research what a Subchorionic Hemotoma was. When the midwives gave me an appointment with a consultant two MONTHS from the date I told them I thought I had an infection, I just believed them that “it wasn’t urgent.” It wasn’t until I finally pushed my sonographer at my 13 week scan REPEATEDLY to please please explain why I was still bleeding and only after I came back from the bathroom with a new bleed that she finally performed an internal scan and… shock and awe … I was dilated and sent to emergency.
I hope that the women who Google “bleeding pregnancy” find my post and advocate for themselves better than I did.

ginandoreos · 25/07/2021 16:37

@mumsyme2 thank you so much for your post. It is incredibly useful and I'm feet grateful you have posted. I currently have a SCH. I'm 10 weeks and have a scan this week. I'm petrified.

I am having private treatment for recurrent miscarriage. For my last miscarriage, I also had a SCH. I have no idea how much it had to do with the loss.

I have been told to stop aspirin, I'm taking progesterone, haven't been told to have bed rest, but have been given a drug that lowers blood pressure and should stop my uterus from contracting. I've had no bleeding as yet.

It was picked up at a scan at 6+3, at 8+2 it was still there, same size. Then I was advised to stop the aspirin.

So I'm basically trying to get through each day and get to the next scan.

Thank you so much for your list of suggestions, I'm off to down a glass of water and see if whatever else you listed is in my cupboards! I'll do anything to help improve then situation.

Everything I've read online is quite vague or has made me feel panicked.

I really hope you are okay, thank you again and fingers crossed for both of us 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼 xxxxx

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