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Is your child ready for potty training at nursery? Here's the place for all your toilet training questions.

Oh crap method ! Nursery says it’s too early !

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EgSk · 31/03/2021 08:32

Hi all ,

This post is going to be a bit all over the place ( I’ve had 4 hours sleep )!

I just finished reading the oh crap potty training book. My 25 month old has started showing small signs he’s ready such as pointing to his nappy & saying pee and hiding to poop . I wasn’t going to even think about potty training until closer to 2.5 however the book says 25 months is the perfect time to start . My husband is keen to start now as we are getting work done on our house in 2 months and will be living out of a tiny room for 3 months 😩

I mentioned to nursery that I’m thinking of starting in the next few weeks or so and they felt it was too early/ he wasn’t ready AT ALL . Later that day the nursery manager emailed be suggesting I wait to potty train as my son just transitioned to the 2-3 room five weeks ago . She has a point about that .

However my son is only in nursery 2 half mornings a week. If I start potty training in about a month he would have been in that room two months . Surely that’s enough time to settle ( according to nursery he settled seamlessly although he does cry at drop off). I also plan to take him out of nursery for a week to train him , even though it’s only two half days .

Is it really ridiculously early to potty train next month ( son will be 26 months ). Should I wait for more signs he’s ready or trust the book? Does his nursery know best or are they just worried about accidents and more work etc .

Cheers !

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purpleme12 · 31/03/2021 08:35

It does seem quite early to do it….
Might work for some?
We waited until mine wanted to do it which was 2 years and 9 months
She could tell me that she wanted to wear knickers when we asked her (obviously she'd been using a potty/toilet sometimes at home so she was used to it)

MissSmiley · 31/03/2021 15:36

I would wait until they do it themselves and if they haven't encourage them but not until about 3

Sirzy · 31/03/2021 15:38

Personally unless he does it himself I would hold off until after the work has been done to even consider it. He is only just two there really is no need to rush

skeggycaggy · 31/03/2021 15:38

I would do it. I trained all my kids at 24m and under - my DC3 was 20m, because I had read OCPT by the time I had him!

WisestIsShe · 31/03/2021 15:38

I don't think it's too early. Dd was trained at just 2. It totally depends on the child and their self awareness, language, ability to pull pants down etc.
There's no harm giving it a go.

Kanaloa · 31/03/2021 15:44

I don’t think it’s necessarily too young, depending on the child. I understand where the nursery is coming from though. When I worked in childcare so many parents would say their child was ready but what they meant was that they would pull their child’s pants down for them and hover them over the potty every 20/30 minutes. It meant the parent would say their child was accident free then complain that the child had accidents at nursery. I would say the child is ready if they can say/signal that they need the toilet in good time, pull their own pants up and down and sit on the toilet/potty.

YukoandHiro · 31/03/2021 15:46

I did Oh Crap at 2.5 and it was a disaster. Should have listened to nursery who said not yet. It took 9 months. It's over a year now ana still nowhere near dry at night.
Don't be me. Wait.

user1493494961 · 31/03/2021 15:46

No, not too early, give it a go.

dementedpixie · 31/03/2021 15:48

@YukoandHiro

I did Oh Crap at 2.5 and it was a disaster. Should have listened to nursery who said not yet. It took 9 months. It's over a year now ana still nowhere near dry at night. Don't be me. Wait.
Night time dryness is not the same as daytime potty training so you cant compare the two
Rainallnight · 31/03/2021 15:49

I did Oh Crap early with DD and it was a disaster. It took a long time to train her, she wasn’t ready, and she developed a pooing issue that resulted in chronic constipation for which she is now receiving very invasive hospital treatment.

Don’t be me.

Why the rush? (Is what I’d say to my then-self. And I waited with DS and he was sorted in about 48 hours)

dementedpixie · 31/03/2021 15:49

My ds was day trained by age 2. He showed signs he was ready so we tried it

DorotheaHomeAlone · 31/03/2021 15:55

Ignore the nursery. They are being ridiculous and it’s not their call. 25 months is the perfect age to potty train. A lot of people on mumsnet are really obsessed with leaving it super late but from an environmental perspective the earlier the better. Both of mine day trained at that age with minimal fuss. One was also dry at night from then the other still needs lifting at night 2 years later.

Hufflepuffsunite · 31/03/2021 16:01

I don't think there's any harm in trying and it seems lots of people are successful at that age. I tried it with my now 4yo when he'd just turned 2 and it was a total failure. Eventually we cracked it just before his third birthday! So if it doesn't work right away, don't worry too much.

Sirzy · 31/03/2021 16:01

It may not be nurseries call. But if your expecting them to help then you need to be sure that the child is ready and the staff aren’t going to be asked to sit them on the toilet every 5 minutes just incase.

jessstan2 · 31/03/2021 16:07

I don't know anything about 'Oh crap' method but think your son is old enough as he knows when he 'goes'. Talk to him about being a bigger boy now and how it would be good if he 'went' in a potty rather than a nappy. That's what I did with mine just a week or so before he turned two and he took to the potty like a duck to water. He used to run to me and say, "Take trousers off". I didn't think of it as 'training', it was just a natural progression.

If it doesn't work you can abandon it for a while and try again later.

CaptainWentworth · 31/03/2021 16:14

I tried the Oh Crap method when DD was 26.5 months - she could hold her wee/ poo after a day with a few puddles on the floor, but couldn’t/ wouldn’t release it on the potty and was getting quite upset, doing a dance and clearly needing to but just not wanting to let go- she’d wait until I put a nappy on her for a nap/ bedtime. I persevered for a few days but she wasn’t happy and I was worried about her getting UTIs from holding on, so we went back to nappies.

That was just after Christmas; we tried again the week before last and she did brilliantly- a couple of accidents again, then got it straight away and was taking herself off to the potty and pulling her own pants down to go! No accidents at all since then. She’s also started waking with dry nappies after naps and in the morning, so have high hopes she will crack nighttime without too much bother before long.

She does 2 days at nursery - first day in pants last week she had a few wee accidents, then the second day was absolutely fine and came home in the same clothes she’d arrived in.

I would say not to get too hung up on everything the Oh Crap book says - I was quite stressed about getting it all ‘right’ the first time and I don’t think that helped - also DD didn’t like having nothing on her bottom half and that added to her discomfort around the whole thing. We went straight to pants this time (slightly against my better judgment, but she was super keen) and it actually worked better for her. So do relax a bit and don’t feel you have to follow it all to the letter when you decide to start.

INeedNewShoes · 31/03/2021 16:15

I wouldn't do it without the nursery's full support.

DD seemed ready at 24m and so we went for it. It took 2 weeks to get there with wees but It became stressful and she developed hang ups about pooing which could have become very problematic and took months to overcome.

With hindsight I wish I'd waited another 6 months.

DD's friends who trained later did it much more easily.

Abouttimemum · 31/03/2021 16:16

DS has just turned 2 and I don’t plan to start until he’s close to 3. Maybe after Xmas this year. He points at his nappy and says wee wee and he hides to poo and all that stuff but I just don’t see the rush, plus I know too many people that have tried and failed at 2 to do it, or it’s taken much longer than it should.

Crockof · 31/03/2021 16:18

It used to be the norm to be potty trained by 2years, some kids can't but many will be fine and are showing signs.

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 31/03/2021 16:18

Oh Crap is way too prescriptive for my liking. How can there be one “perfect” age for all children? He might be ready, he might be not. If you think he is, it would be better to start it when you’ve got a good chunk of time at home, at least 4 or 5 days, before he has to go to nursery.

stuckinarutatwork · 31/03/2021 16:20

I potty trained DS at 24 months. He had some signs of being ready but not all of them. He was fine and it took less than a week for him to get the hang of it.
Go for it!

Neolara · 31/03/2021 16:23

I have 3 older DCs. Just about every kid I knew who was potty trained before about 2.5 turned out to be not remotely potty trained. Their parents later revealed that there were frequently relapses and lots of accidents. None of this was spoken about until later. When DC are ready, potty training is relatively straightforward. When they are not, it's jus one looooong old slog. Personally, I'd wait.

Smartiesandhugs · 31/03/2021 16:24

I potty trained my DD in January at 25 months. It took a week until she was dry day and night. I think if their communication is good enough then go for it. She hadn’t used a potty before then but picked it up so quickly. (She was starting to take her clothes and nappy off in bed so wanted to sort potty training so I didn’t get poop in the bed!! Glad we did as she now sleeps starkers whatever we dress her in Grin)

DuggeeHugPlease · 31/03/2021 16:29

I loved the oh crap method but did it at 2.5 years.
I would say it's up to you rather than nursery though. I just took mine out of nursery for a week did potty training all week and sent back in the following week having pretty much cracked it. Think she only had 2 accidents in the next 2 months and nothing since.

Triffid1 · 31/03/2021 16:48

I think it's too early BUT... if you have read a book that resonates and you want to try it, then of course you should go ahead. I haven't read that one so couldn't comment on the specifics. The only time I'd expect nursery to have any say is if this method is one that takes months and months and they'll be constantly cleaning him up as a result.