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Anyone recently started? How are you getting on? Suppprt thread!

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DaisyandRoses · 29/09/2020 07:54

We are on day 3, my little girl is 2 years 3 months. Just wondering if anyone else has recently started and needs some moral support?

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PeacefulInTheDeep · 29/09/2020 08:16

Me please! My DS is 2 years 2 months and we started on Thursday, which makes today day 6.

He is brilliant at wees, and just takes himself to the potty when he needs to go. Poops went on the potty for the first 2 days but since then he's been resisting. He gets upset and says "don't like it" and will go in his trousers or on the floor if I take my eyes off him 🤦‍♀️

How are you getting on?

DaisyandRoses · 29/09/2020 08:36

Morning @PeacefulInTheDeep Smile

We are the opposite! Poo is fine, no accidents (we are on day three though so plenty of time for that).

Wee she has had two accidents this morning. Partly my fault as one she was still tired and I didn’t remind her after about 30 mins, we managed to get half the wee in!

Then the other one I popped upstairs to get dressed and she had an accident in her leggings. I heard her call me from downstairs so I think she had made an attempt to go. I got her to take her leggings off and pop them in the washing machine. She has been self initiating and taking her leggings off herself but she gets distracted. I am going to go back to basics for half the day today and let her run around naked.

We’ve gone for a few walks yesterday (doing oh crap but she refuses to stay in the house all day and I don’t blame her). I took the portable potty and got her to do a wee half way through and it was fine.

What are you doing for naps? DD didn’t want to wear a nappy and has been dry for the last few days. But she never has much fluid beforehand.

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PeacefulInTheDeep · 29/09/2020 19:31

Yeah we've been back and forth between naked and clothed a couple of times after accidents too. We're also doing oh crap. We went out for a short walk on day 3 before the poop problem started and it was fine. Also went for a walk yesterday (not long after a poo accident) as he needed to run off steam and I needed some fresh air. He was exploring in the woods with DH and then announced he needed a wee so I just whipped the potty out and he went right there.

He did a poo on the toilet today and I can't believe how happy it made me! I could tell he needed to go and put him on the potty but he kept getting up, so I put him on the toilet insert and left him in there with a book. He didn't go, but 10 minutes later he did his poop face again so I parked him back on the toilet and gave him some space. Heard a splash and then he said "I did it!". So cute!

Definitely feeling more hopeful now but we'll see what tomorrow brings.

He's in a nappy for naps at the moment, and has been dry about half the time.

BridgeFarmKefir · 29/09/2020 22:12

Following 😊 we are on day 4. DD will be 2 on Sunday. She's been in the toddler room at nursery for a while and it seemed like a not terrible idea to start!

Day 1 was a write off
Day 2 morning was amazing, took herself for wees and poos. Afternoon a write off as she refused her nap
Day 3 (at nursery) lots of accidents
Day 4 (nursery) only 2 accidents. Nursery b encouraging, she stands by the door/ asks for the toilet when she wants to go.

All a mixed bag, but I feel like we're going in the right direction. Nappies still for naps and nighttime. We're following Oh Crap too, so did naked and now commando at nursery and I'm going to continue that on my day with her tomorrow. Might even attempt a trip out!

Good luck you guys 😄

DaisyandRoses · 30/09/2020 16:40

Hi @BridgeFarmKefir how are you guys getting on today? Hope your day trip went well. That’s good @PeacefulInTheDeep that he is initiating going when you are out. That seems to be when DD is holding it.

We are day 4 now, just had the one accident. My fault really as we went for a walk (she said she didn’t need to go before), she held it in until we got back. I popped out the room and she didn’t make it in time.

I think it’s been quite painless so far! She seems to remember doing it back in March when she was about 20 months so no poo accidents at all. But we haven’t had to deal with nursery yet, and haven’t really been getting out that much as it’s been raining.

Don’t know whether to attempt car journeys soon or give it a bit of time?

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BridgeFarmKefir · 30/09/2020 18:17

Hi @DaisyandRoses sounds like you had a pretty successful day! Don't worry about the odd accident. Nice one 👍🏼

We had a less successful day today. 3 wee accidents, each time just after sitting on the potty, and despite lots of prompts from me because I knew she was due one. Felt a bit like a backwards step after a good day at nursery yesterday. Poos went in the potty which I guess is good but I think she gets much more warning about those!

Re: car journeys, I need to make a relatively long one in a couple of weeks so I'm going to take the travel potty and hope for the best. Regular stops etc. I've also just bought some puppy pads (glam!) from Wilko to pop on her car seat just in case.

Onwards! Hopefully tomorrow will be better 😊

PeacefulInTheDeep · 30/09/2020 19:48

Hi @DaisyandRoses it sounds like it's going well for you. We've had a better day today too.

DS pooped in his trousers again this morning while I was busy feeding baby DD, so he's been naked again. But, DH parked him on the toilet with a book before he took him upstairs for bed and he did a huge poop! So, I'm feeling more hopeful for tomorrow with a plan to do the same at around his usual poop times.

He hasn't been to the childminder this week. He normally goes Mon & Wed but as it's more for socialising (and for me to get a break!) I've kept him off this week while we get this sorted. It's not fair to inflict poop accidents on anyone else, and I don't want to derail the process if I don't have too.

We haven't been in the car but are going to the dentist on Friday (great timing from DH there). It's only 10 mins away so I'll get him to go before we leave and put the potty in the car. It'll be tricky if he decides he needs to go while we're in there as we're not allowed to take bags in, so will just have to make a quick dash outside if need be. He can hold it for an hour for a walk, so as long as he doesn't have too much to drink before we go then I think he'll be fine. We use cloth nappies so I'll line the car seat with a booster and waterproof wrap just in case.

@BridgeFarmKefir that sounds like a tough day, how frustrating that the accidents are right after sitting on the potty. Any chance you're over-prompting and getting some toddler rebellion going on?

I think it's easy to beat ourselves up when progress isn't linear - they just don't learn immediately from accidents in the way we expect. But as long as things are generally improving then they'll get there with practice.

BridgeFarmKefir · 01/10/2020 11:20

@PeacefulInTheDeep I may have been over prompting yeah - she's very wilful so it's possibly resistance just because she can!

Odds on she'll have a better day at nursery today because it's just not as fun saying no to them 😂

It's her birthday this weekend and we have a load of stuff going on including toddler trampolining and lunch out, so that could all be very interesting...

Hope you both have successful days!

DaisyandRoses · 01/10/2020 19:25

@BridgeFarmKefir haha that’s a great idea about puppy pads for the car! I hope your little one has a lovely birthday this weekend- you are very brave to go trampolining. I’d quite like to take DD more places but everything seems to be closed around here.

We have had our first accident free day, and went on two walks too. We are having bum wiping issues though..! She refuses to let me help her. Our bathroom is a bit of a state as her new favourite thing to do is take all the loo roll and flush it down the toilet.

We have had a lot of success from the ‘hearing the wee’ thing from oh crap. Plus I’ve noticed I can ask her if she needs to go now, and she’ll either say no or will actually take herself to the potty.

Good luck with the dentist @PeacefulInTheDeep - I definitely think I should be doing more outings other than walks to the park! We had a poop accident last night- DH got home after being away for 4 nights with work, she was cuddling him and then remembered and ran to the potty bless her.

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PeacefulInTheDeep · 01/10/2020 19:28

How did you both get on today? We've had no accidents at all and a poop on the toilet so feeling very good about things. Also, I think I've noticed some signs of impending poop that come before the "it's on its way out" face so going to look out for those again tomorrow.

PeacefulInTheDeep · 01/10/2020 19:30

Haha cross posted with you there @DaisyandRoses great to hear you've had an accident free day too!

DaisyandRoses · 02/10/2020 09:34

That’s great @PeacefulInTheDeep!

What are you going to do about underwear? Are you waiting a month or whatever? I noticed DD has a rash on her bum so I’ve put some knickers on her today (the cutest little Minnie Mouse ones- has a bit of a my baby girl is growing up moment!). So far she’s pulled them down fine to wee but we’re at home, hope it won’t set her back?

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BridgeFarmKefir · 02/10/2020 10:28

Sounds like you've both had some proper successes there! Re wiping @DaisyandRoses are you using loo roll or wipes? I get DD to stand and bend over for poo wipes and she's pretty chill about it (which beats the very first time when she ran away with bits of poo flying from her bum Confused)

Only two accidents at nursery yesterday and she was very pleased about the poo she'd just done when I picked her up. We're still battling with a real refusal to sit when I ask her though. I do think I was over prompting so I've pulled back and am only prompting when she's clearly desperate and trying to be very cool about it. Sadly, it's not working and we had another accident yesterday after nursery.

I am wondering if we need to make going to the toilet more "special" - buy a toilet seat and take her and make it more of a big girl thing. That's what they do at nursery (they don't use potties) It can only benefit in the long run as I have no desire to always have a potty nearby for the foreseeable!

N987 · 02/10/2020 20:22

Cani just jump in and ask about the over prompting? We are struggling with that she refuses to go on the potty at all no matter what we try and then will have an accident minutes later. She does pee and poo very happily on it about it half the time and puts her self on it for poo's and once or twice for pee. How often should I be prompting her? She's 26 months

Newmumma516789 · 03/10/2020 17:03

Following with lots of interest.
So good reading all of your posts, I am on day 5 with DS (25 months) the first 3 days were a dream saying he needed to go and then heading straight for the potty. Last two days not as successful seems to of last complete interest in the potty despite refusing to wear a nappy, says no to every prompt wondering if I'm prompting too much also. Maybe back to basics tomorrow and have a naked day.

N987 · 03/10/2020 20:13

That sounds so similar to us. The first few days went so well, only one or 2 accidents a day and would come and sit on the potty to try. Now we ask she won't go and if we tell her it's time she still won't go. Today she did her poo in her potty but no pee's despite us prompting. I am thinking we started too early and going back to nappies before we put her off but she hates her nappies and try's to pull them off 😭😭

PeacefulInTheDeep · 04/10/2020 13:29

@DaisyandRoses I'm just going to not bother with underwear for a week or two. The childminder gave me a strange look when I mentioned him going commando, but I don't care. I've told DS I'll take him shopping to choose some big boy pants soon, he seemed pretty excited by that.

@BridgeFarmKefir don't beat yourself up, I think accidents after a full-on day at nursery are to be expected at this stage. DS is going to the childminders tomorrow and tbh I'm already dreading getting him home at the end of the day! He's usually so tired that he really acts up, and adding controlling his bladder to that mix is going to be interesting!

I've read about people giving their kids stickers to decorate the toilet seat and make it "theirs" - maybe that's something to consider @BridgeFarmKefir? Like you, I have no desire to have a potty in the corner of my living room for the foreseeable future, but at least he can use it without assistance!

@N987 and @Newmumma516789 it sounds like you're having similar experiences to some of the rest of us on this thread where the first couple of days are great but then it goes downhill a bit once the novelty wears off. If it helps, we're now on day 11 and things are going really well. Very few small accidents, poops are now going in the toilet, and we've had a a couple of incident-free trips out including 1.5 hours for the dentist. I don't know if you've read Oh Crap but the advice in there about prompting is to never ask if they need to go as it just gives them the opportunity to say no! Either a casual reminder like "I'm going to do the washing up, remember the potty is over here if you need it" or build it in to what you're doing "it's time for lunch, let's go for a wee and wash our hands and then we can have lunch" sort of thing.

DaisyandRoses · 04/10/2020 19:33

@PeacefulInTheDeep Glad to hear the dentist went well that’s amazing!

Right so very uneventful in a good way so far! Literally not had any accidents at all since those first few days. We also went to soft play today! I was initially nervous but felt confident she could do it. She grabs her bits (as we call it!) when she needs to go so we have quite a clear indication now. She had a lot to drink, and went in the portable potty at softplay. Then ran straight back out to go down the slide.

Nursery is Tuesday so that will definitely be a test. They’ve said they’ll use a potty if we want to. I had sat DD at the big toilet a few times (got caught out upstairs and didn’t have the potty). But I don’t think she’s ready to use it all the time yet as it’s a bit tricky to go herself.

We also invested in the puppy pads for the car! DH was very impressed that he could cut them down to size. We also got some flushable wipes that are apple scented- she likes them a bit too much.

Welcome @Newmumma516789 @N987 definitely agree with the oh crap method and not over prompting. The only thing about that book I don’t agree with is the bit that basically says never give up and doesn’t believe in ‘they’re not ready’ as the first time we tried with DD I felt so much pressure and totally awful and thought I should persevere. I’m so glad I didn’t as this time things have been so easy. I agree a couple of accidents are not a big deal but if you give it a really good go and it’s not clicking then it’s totally okay to wait a month or so. Smile also when I tried with DD at 20 months she hated putting her nappies back on at first and had to even take them off to poop in the potty! She soon forgot after a day or two once we hid the potty and all went back to normal!

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DaisyandRoses · 04/10/2020 19:58

Also sorry forgot to say! newmumma and n987have you tried moving them on to the potty mid wee/poop so you get some in there? That made things click for us, and the ‘hearing the wee’ and trying to be as casual about it as possible (easier said than done Smile)

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Newmumma516789 · 04/10/2020 20:48

That's great advice thank you @DaisyandRoses and @PeacefulInTheDeep nice to hear you're having succes.
We've gone back to a nappy today to give both DS and me a bit of a break (single mum). He seemed to lose complete interest and was becoming irritated at having to use the potty. He seemed a lot more chilled today with the nappy on so wondering if maybe it's just too soon, although after dinner he took his nappy off and decide he wanted to use the big toilet. Getting him a potty seat for the toilet tomorrow to see if he shows interest to try again, scared to push him too much as I don't want to put him off completely. We also have issues with pooping in general he is prescribed laxido which he has daily so not sure if that's going to have a negative effect on the process.

BridgeFarmKefir · 04/10/2020 21:09

@PeacefulInTheDeep it's so hard after nursery/ childminders etc isn't it? They're usually so tired/ excited!

We've had a lovely weekend for her birthday and I've managed to get DH involved more (not his fault, but he's been working away/ late recently so not much time to support on PT) With her cousin here and lots going on we had a few accidents but also some successes bearing in mind just how much was going on with people, fun and presents. I'm confident enough to carry on.

We've ordered a Peppa (Hmm) loo seat and I think it's a great idea to decorate and make it hers.

Hope everyone had successful weekends!

BridgeFarmKefir · 04/10/2020 21:15

@N987 re: over prompting, I was following Oh Crap method and that recommends putting them on every 30 mins or so. But I was also prompting her when I saw a sign she might need to go. So, a lot!

But I've learned over the last week or so that really she only needs to do a big wee every 2-3 hours and then a poo (or two, or three!). So I'm just trying to prompt her when I think she needs to go, rather than wrestling her into the potty every 20 mins. She did quite a bit of unprompted going this weekend - we had a couple of times when she got to the potty but couldn't get her trousers down, which is understandable.

I think as parents we want everything to be a science and follow a set method. But really it's more of an art!

SpacePug · 04/10/2020 21:49

Interesting thread, haven't started with my DS yet he's almost 22 months so still a bit young maybe but I have ordered a potty. He has been standing up to wee in the bath and will say 'weewee' before/during, but he has started pooing in the bath lately usually after a stand up wee he then squats to poo. So my thoughts are to have a potty next to the bath and if he looks like he might poo quickly grab him and put him on it? Worth a try maybe 🤔
I haven't read any potty training books yet so I am pretty clueless

DaisyandRoses · 07/10/2020 18:00

Hi! Anyone still on this? Smile

So DD went to nursery this week for two days so far. First day she had one accident, second day she had two. I’m a bit disappointed because she didn’t have any accidents at home for 5 days including lots of outings. She also had an accident when she got home from nursery whilst in the kitchen, with no attempt to go to the potty like she usually would.

Obviously I’m not at all disappointed in her! But I feel like they must not be paying enough attention, or promoting enough and I feel bad that she’s wet herself because she can get a bit upset about it. I think I’m just having one of those guilty ‘I wish I was a SAHM’ moments.

I know I’m over reacting of course! I definitely need to talk to the nursery more about what’s working at home. I find it difficult with the drop offs/ pick ups now as you get to have a quick chat whilst outside and that’s it.

How is everyone getting on?

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BridgeFarmKefir · 09/10/2020 20:28

@DaisyandRoses I'm still here!

How did your DD get on the rest of the week? To be fair to her nursery, I think different environments can be really distracting and lead to more accidents.

This week started on the back foot for us as DD had a bad tummy and lots of poo accidents at nursery so they put her in a nappy. But her key worker yesterday made a real effort (in her words 'we decided we were going to crack it') to get her back on track and she had no accidents. Only had one today but she's been really good at taking herself to the potty/ toilet so I really feel like we're getting somewhere. Not exactly the 3 days and done some people talk about but 2 weeks in and I feel like we make progress all the time Smile