Transgender milk is just as good for babies as normal milk?

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NHS trust says transgender women’s milk just as good for babies | Evening Standard

This sounds like utter madness. How can milk made from a cocktail of drugs to stimulate milk in a male be just as good as naturally made maternal milk. Quite honestly i find the idea of man trying to breast feed revolting.

Is there no end to the madness 😱

How did I know it would be that trust 🤦‍♀️

The one study involved a male submitting milk to be analysed, with no chain of evidence that it even came from him.

So, no. This is utter madness and needs to be shut down. Anyone who spouts this needs to go and milk a bull and drink the ensuing liquid before coming back and reporting on that experience.

Babies are not experimental specimens there for the thrill of men.

It's bollocks. There is no evidence to support this nonsense.

Well everyone on here says Formula is as good as Breast Milk, so I suppose this was the obvious next step

Christ

So basically any man can breast feed? I guess this means dads can share the night feeds now?

Thats odd. I fail to understand what benefit there is to any infant to have them ingest a fake, chemically induced secretion from the chest of a male. No benefit to the baby at all.

So who does benefit? Are we allowed to say? Cos I can think of one group in particular, but I don't imagine I shall be allowed to mention them. It's not "kind", is it?

Are newborn babies now just an accessory for males to use in their pursuit of validation and thrills? They're really prepared to use newborns to scratch that itch?

JFC

I don’t give a shit if it’s kind or not, I’ll say it - babies are not there to be props for some man’s perverted fantasy of being a ‘woman’.

Common sense tells us a man’s chemical filled pus is nothing like the real thing. I can’t believe we are even having this conversation ffs.

I barely took even a paracetamol when breastfeeding. Yet it's apparently fine for males to fill themselves full of drugs and attempt to feed their moon juice to babies?!? Vile and selfish.

*moob

What did I just read 😱 How absolutely appalling. Abhorrent.

This is all about making the trans woman feel better about themself and nothing to do with the wellbeing of the baby. If it was with the baby's wellbeing in mind, they would use formula milk, tried and tested, but no.

Jesus Christ, where will this end? Absolute madness.

If this eye true then all men would be encouraged to breastfeed their newborn, and share some of the burden of cluster feeding when the mother ņeeds to recover from the birth.

It's a misleading headline. Actually "a leaked letter from a University Hospitals Sussex NHS Foundation Trust medical director said milk produced by trans women, with the help of drugs, is “comparable to that produced following the birth of a baby”."

By which they mean when they tested it, it was nutritionally similar.

They later said "human milk" was better than formula.

I think there is only one example of a male successfully stimulating lactation, and they were able to produce less than an ounce a day. So not enough to feed a baby.

Its a bit of a scaremongering story to be honest, and I feel a bit sorry for the NHS trust who were trying to respond to a question in good faith.

Anyone seen the article about Chenobyl animals?
Ringing any bells?

The letter is here
https://policyexchange.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Policy-Exchange-Biology-Matters-COTS-Letter.pdf

What is this?! Kinda wish I hadn't read it tbh

Ffs. Ridiculous.

The amount of domperidone needed by males to produce milk is enough to cause tachycardia in adults. What exactly it would do to a new born baby has not even been mentioned.

The most revolting aspect of all this is the hoops women are forced to jump though to ensure nothing gets into their milk that might cause harm, whereas with these males the baby's health seems to be a secondary consideration (if considered at all).

Very few males are lactating (if any) amd if you read the letter it says the medical trust would do a careful assessment with the individuals of the risks and benefits and apply appropriate safeguarding.

To me that's a very carefully phrased way of saying even if TW can lactate, they aren't going to just be let rip feeding an infant potentially harmful milk.

The NHS is in such a parlous state that I hope this will get no sort of priority, but there needs to be a strong public response making it clear that babies suckling on male nipples is unacceptable on every level. It's not being discussed with babies' welfare in mind, because it's of no possible benefit for babies. I've just seen a tweet from an HIV positive man looking into this, FFS. No mother would take her baby's welfare so lightly.

Breastfeeding rates are so low in this country the NHS doesn't have the time or resources to help men fulfil their breastfeeding fantasies. The time and resources spent on this study should have gone to actual mothers who want to feed their children.

I was told I needed to give up breastfeeding in order to have a local anaesthetic! I didn't, I got a second opinion, but it makes me so angry that mothers are told safe medicines are incompatible with breastfeeding but when a man wants to take a cocktail of meds to artificially induce lactation it's absolutely fine!

In good faith?? Are you kidding?

By calling breast milk 'human milk'? Deliberately muddying the waters?

By referring to a 'study' of ONE trans woman who apparently fed their baby as 'informative'??

It's bollocks, that's what it is. Mealy-mouthed appeasing nonsense with not a shred of medical evidence.

What is it with bloody Sussex? First the uni, now the hospital.