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FESH spa and creche: The Ultimate Destination for survivors of the Palace and Deli: Prologue

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CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 04/07/2010 22:19

Welcome weary travellers. It's been a long road, but you made it! Now, hard as it might be, leave your ESH spawn at the creche and step into the spa - where we have every treatment available to soothe your Amityville Horror undercarriage, ravaged raspberries and worn out wits. And - wait for it - we've got the bar back. And it's all-inclusive

So, what are you waiting for? Grab a glass, lower yourself into the jacuzzi and lets get chatting. We are Forever ESH!

P.S Children never cry here...

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SilverSky · 27/07/2010 22:45

Thanks honey. I need to make sure Him Indoors is around to come with. Otherwise I will be on my tod unless I can take the dog ?

SkiHorseWonAWean · 28/07/2010 05:24

curly Someone needs your expertise: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/978549-Anyone-else-with-RSI-or-RA-TTC

iggy How many times did you get up in the night just to check she's still OK?

rots I really do hope you can get this thrush thing nailed - it sounds horrible. Why does it hurt so much when vaginal thrush is so "bearable" in that respect?

polly We have snapped at each other a few times - but we agreed before he was born that we were going to get tired and say stupid things to each other. On saying that though I have had a couple of "oh why don't I just leave you as I have to do everything myself anyway".

On saying that though - at 10:30 yesterday I told him to walk the dogs as I was going to have a shower, hand the baby over and go to the stables for a few hours. Which I did and he didn't complain.

My mum is in absolute raptures about how much jailbait helps with the baby - normale n'est-ce pas?

CUNextTuesday · 28/07/2010 07:35

I had to wake my child at 7.15 this morning having put him down at 11.30 last night. He woke once at 2.30, but not fully, and I moved him out of his basket to be next to me. He rooted for about 10 seconds then fell asleep till 7.15. This can't be normal right? Everything else seems ok...

SkiHorseWonAWean · 28/07/2010 08:14

You're living the dream cunty! Don't argue with it - teething is looming in the not-so-distant future.

CUNextTuesday · 28/07/2010 08:32

It just doesn't seem right...

SkiHorseWonAWean · 28/07/2010 09:06

Jailbait's mum took him to the doctor complaining that all he did was sleep and he never cried. She was laughed out of the surgery.

CUNextTuesday · 28/07/2010 09:37

I know, I'm inventing something to fret about

cheggers · 28/07/2010 09:49

oh god cunty am in awe.

ours had settled into a nice routine of going to bed at 9ish then waking up for a nightime feed at 3 ish and then going through to 7-8. marvellous.

however - in the last week (after what i thought was the 3 months growth spurt) they seem to have swapped nightime for daytime again. aghgh

after the 3 o clock feed the little one is waking up on the hour every hour with a v. high pitched scream.

tips please anyone? it feels like they are newborn again, and i'm not in best frame of mind for tactics at 4 in the morning ....

ma and pa here again at the weekend and their second lot of jabs tomorrow so i'm sure any routine we did have will be back out the window sharpish anyway.

honey i just use the sofa for most feeds (stay in bed at night with a cushion). we got a new sofa just after they were born which now has a nice indent in the shape of (my not so trim) arse. maybe i need to get out more

late congrats to iggs too. birth sounded nae too bad at all. nice one

cheggers · 28/07/2010 09:55

how's the scar ski? numbness in leg sounds v. v. weird.

mine was numb for about a centimetre all the way round it. don't remember when it got better but it's ok now.

just a nice angry purple colour. don't think i scar well

SkiHorseWonAWean · 28/07/2010 10:01

cheggers My mum has a hearing aid. Upon waking up Bear, cooing at him, dropping his head about 1000 times and saying "he's not hungry" he started screaming. She then handed him to me and removed her hearing aid. Fucking bitch. So there you go, destroy your eardrums and then remove your hearing aid.

Do they do the MMR where you are cheggers? Bear is supposed to get it but I'm not sure where I stand - I'm going to enquire as to whether we can "pay" to get it done in single doses.

The numbness is just at skin level I mean - I lost some sensation around my belly button when I had my tummy tuck so I think it's just a similar thing. Still... at least if I get touched up in a bar I won't know about it and so it won't upset me! The scar itself is doing very well on the left hand side, still red and swollen on the right hand side (same side as numbness) with a build up of fluid behind it - but RHS gave me problems in hospital - consultant said she'd sewn me up internally very tight on RHS (normal) and it took a couple of weeks before I could comfortably turn on my right.

honey Funny, I was thinking about treating myself to a nice feeding chair just yesterday then realised that actually the sofa is much better, it's more comfy and there's room for the laptop/remote/coffee/food/book/etc. next to me.

rollerbaby · 28/07/2010 10:49

Har har at your mum Ski that is fookin hilarious.

You're right. Ikea armchair with matching footstool it is then. Where the hell am I going to balance laptop and bottle of pinot whilst breastfeeding at 4am watching reruns of 24 and then snooze illegally? This is going to be soooooo easy!!!

Is there any advice on taking stuff before giving birth to stop thrush on a serious note?

Also how much weight am I likely to put on in 3rd tri? Be gentle please.

CUNextTuesday · 28/07/2010 10:57

It depends on how much you eat!

rollerbaby · 28/07/2010 10:59

Obviously not a calorie over the recommended 2000 a day!

SkiHorseWonAWean · 28/07/2010 11:00

haha cunty - 'tis not a race! Honey, I thought I'd put on 30 lbs but I didn't get a chance to weigh myself at the end - it'd always been the plan to weigh myself when I went IN to labour so I could congratulate myself the next day. Upon returning from hospital and getting on the scales? 30lbs. Tssssssssssssssssssk! I have not gone on the scales since - I do not wish to be reminded.

CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 28/07/2010 11:01

thanks ski i have posted on that thread. but it ate up most of my internet time for this "break". will return for NAKing later, but for now she is sleeping and i have finished pumping, so i must return to RL stuff.

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organiccarrotcake · 28/07/2010 15:02

cunty LC slept through like that from very early on. It's wonderful. He now goes to bed at 7pm, gets up at 7am, life's a dream compared to many people with kids his age. Enjoy it.

silver you said a customer screwed up t'other half?

honey Fer sure you take him. He needs to know how to fulfil your every need in labour . I think a footstool is a good idea - I would be more comfortable with one I think. I feed on the sofa in the daytime, and at night I sit right back against the bed-head and use the dream genii pillow thing (and a swaddling blanket).

cheggars I feel for you It's horrible when you don't know what's going on, isn't it. I've just had Comma at his second cranial osteopath appointment - have you considered/done that? With the two of them cramped in together I would expect they're more likely to have been squashed a bit. May be worth a try?

ski I'm sure you've read that Wakefield was completely discredited re the MMR, and with MMR rates dropping the autism rates haven't decreased - in fact are still going up. Also, my HV pointed out that most, if not all vaccinations are multiple ones, yet people are only concerned about the MMR multiple one, usually. I gave LC the MMR after extensive research and consideration, and that was before Wakefield was discredited, but it's a very personal decision and all I can suggest is that you do loads of your own research and see where it takes you. The separate vaccinations would only worry me if there's any measles or mumps in the area around the time, meaning that he could catch it before he has a chance to have all the jabs. In the UK they no longer give the MMR with the mercury based preservative.

I have to say that YOB is doing absolutely loads to look after me, dog, LC and Comma. Bugger the housework, we're both doing the minimum, which is basically washing nappies and clothes, vacuuming the sitting room so we have a room "ok for visitors" and trying to keep on top of the kitchen as much as possible. I have cleaned the bathrooms once since Comma was born (that's just "my job") and just clean out the bath before using it and don't worry about the rest. Other than that he's doing most of the cooking, 1/2 the nappies and where possible he's looking after Comma so I can get naps - usually managing a nap every other day. Dog hasn't been walked since Comma came home, but he lives outside and mooches around the garden and the woods behind our house all day, so it's not like he's cooped up.

He's also working full-time, but at home so he can see what I'm dealing with which is perhaps the difference between my bloke and some others.

Give it another week or two and we will start to get our heads around life a bit more, but at the moment neither of us care whether the house is clean, etc. We're looking after US and getting used to our new person.

ski I have no idea why the thrush is so painful, unless it's because it's really inside the body (ie in milk ducts) and irritating tissue deep inside, whereas vaginal thrush would be more on the surface of the skin, albeit sensitive skin. I'm phoning the HV soon to see if they will be more forthcoming with stronger versions of the fluconazole.

organiccarrotcake · 28/07/2010 15:32

cheg I found this:

www.cyh.com/HealthTopics/HealthTopicDetails.aspx?p=114&np=122&id=2312

it's a bit wishy washy but reassuring in a vague way.

Dunno where I found it - a tab was open with it so either it was linked to from here (apologies therefore if I'm copying!) or YOB found it.

Cosmosis · 28/07/2010 20:42

ski your mum will be in awe of jailbait helping with Bear because your dad prob did not much. Not dissing your dad, just a generational thing innit. I know from what my MIL has said that FIL never woke in the night once (and she ff all 4, so could easily have helped out with feeding). I don't think he ever changed a nappy either.

My dad is a bit of a hippy so he mucked in good and proper when me and my bro were babies.

Hope all is good for all of you in Feshland.

Artie is apparently on the brink of my cervix, so I look forward to engagement any time soon....... At least the pointy little bugger is still head down.

CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 28/07/2010 21:17

Not speaking to cunty. Not fair.

Though to be fair, I have had a much nicer little girl the past 36 hours or so. Still a very busy routine. but she's been good tempered and good fun.

PMSL at ski's mum.

sorry about thrush rots. I really feel for you.

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CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 28/07/2010 21:23

and, of course, bloody well done iggy! Must have been scary for you at times, but I don't think your short birth tale will give nightmares to others. (you thought yours was long, I wrote a therapeutic epic )

Your wee girl is so beautiful, and baby gazing is an amazing hobby - even when they are straining with bright red, old man faces .

I'm quite loving this new baby-needs-playtime phase. (five weeks tomorrow)

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organiccarrotcake · 29/07/2010 09:29

Morning all.

Thrush update. Still bloody painful, but have found myself a very helpful health visitor. She was and when I told her that the doctor had advised putting him onto formula when I'd gone in and the first thing I'd said was that wasn't an option.

Anyway, she's told me to go back to the GP and demand the topical cream is given to me again (I am almost out and 2 GPs have said they're not necessary even though one of those GPs was using Google to look for side effects of fluconazole while BF . I also have to get more fluconazole and just keep going with it, as fanny said, for longer than the 7 days initially prescribed.

Feeling much better that I've got an advocate "against" the GPs. Going to look into the other stuff fanny suggested, too, and try to buy it today (thanks me dear).

Big day today - I'm going for my hair to be cut! Woo hoo. Not been since before Ukraine! Taking Comma with me. I'm going to take the small pram (ie chassis and car seat rather than chassis and carrycot) and also the sling so if he need cuddling I can do so more easily in the sling. Trying to protect my back and shoulders which are getting very stiff from the feeding.

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 29/07/2010 10:22

Popping in to say hello - sorry not been around much - hoping more normal service resumes next week.

Iggy well done on the birth, sounds like a marathon but you do make it sound manageable (and a lot less scary than some others....) so thank you for that! Hope you are doing ok. Am secretly hankering after meeting up with SW London BESHbabies in due course, it's one of the things I can think about for After The Thing that I can actually imagine.

Rots the thrush sounds awful, poor you. Am impressed yet again by your sticking to your ideas in the face of the medical profession - I tend to go along with whatever a medical person tells me but you are inspiring me to question more.

Cas glad to hear you have a cheerier baby now.

Cunty hooray for sleeping baby!

Ski - go Jailbait for flummoxing your Mum! Fully expecting TSF will take to the baby more easily than me and am enjoying the thought of flummoxing my Mum's old-fashioned views too. How are you coping with having her around generally? I know your relationship is not an easy one.

CUNextTuesday · 29/07/2010 11:01

Oh yes to SW London meet up!

Plz to tell me why my baby's poo is so runny that we're just about to climb into the 3rd babygro of the day?

SkiHorseWonAWean · 29/07/2010 11:19

VAG I've been stressed and snappy. Dragged them to the park this morning so she could push the pram. She stood with it in the middle of a bicycle lane and I was basically waiting for her to push it out in front of a car. Want them to go home. Now. Am taking her up the stables later to ride the hoss - maybe she'll fall off.

VAG/Cossie This is true about 70s dad - well, mine at least. He provided financially but didn't do nappies/feeding/cuddles and worked away from home a lot. Last night I fell asleep in front of the box so went to bed early. Was vaguely aware Bear was crying around midnight - then realised that him and jailbait were in the front from getting a feed on! What a honey! So basically I got 7 hours sleep huzzah!

I can't believe how big & fast he's growing - he can almost hold and control his neck - just for a few seconds at a time but it's getting there.

I'd love a big FESH meet at some point - you've all been such a huge support throughout this entire process.

cunty Ah... a curious side effect of the sleeping baybee.

CUNextTuesday · 29/07/2010 11:27

Actually I think it may be my nappy fastening technique. I'd never done one till I got him home for the first time

ski I'll lend you my mum if you like, I think she may be the antithesis of yours, and she LOVES ironing

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