FEB 2010 No longer newborns!!

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Three months and counting, everyone! Our babies are gradually getting the hang of the world...and we are gradually getting the hang of them...

BG if it continues it's worth checking for a UTI (urine infection) as that is a common symptom. If not, just lots of sympathy and empathy - DS1 having repeated meltdowns here and driving me slightly mad. DH turned up with flowers and chocolate - does that say how bad things are?!!

bethylou hope things get better for you!!! I did think about UTI but don't really know how to spot that in children because she seems well in herself. But you are right, maybe I should have her checked because it's so out of character.

fizi hope you are feeling better.

mamaloco couldn't open your photo, it seems to be blocked/locked

GF hope you got through the day okay today and tonight is better.

dd2 had a very animated conversation with dd1's baby doll today which made me smile

I think UTIs come with fevers (well they do in babies)

Thanks for your kind (sp) words. Tonight has been better as he only woke up at 12am, 3.30 and 4.30am (ok he ate at 12 and 4.30am )
I think he has not understood that he should last longer between bottles now that he eats 3 meals a day!

fizi hope you're better

BG no advices but get her checked if in doubt.

bethylou hope your LO is better and you have the result of the analyses

DS is off for a chest xray this afternoon as he has still not fully recovered of his 2 months s of cold/chest/infections and bronchiolitis

Thanks everyone for your replies about weaning and about older children playing up. I've started giving DS2 tiny dots of food (mashed banana and mashed cooked carrot) so I suppose I have started now too.

BabyGiraffes my son is 4 and went through a phase of wetting himself in the day and at night when he had been completely dry for several months. In my view the best thing to do when older toddlers wet themselves is the same way it should be handled all through potty training, that is just quietly clean up and change them without reacting at all. It's really hard though isn't it? But if she's doing it on purpose then you don't want to reward it with any kind of attention, even telling off, and if she is not doing it on purpose then negative attention will affect her self-esteem.

JOINT PAIN
I just thought to mention this in case it is affecting anyone else. I had been getting really painfully stiff joints, progressively worse since baby was born and a health visitor friend of mine suggested it might be calcium deficiency. It totally went away when I started taking calcium supplements so she must have been right.

I had the same with my first baby and was referred to rheumatologists and all sorts as it was so bad, nothing was diagnosed and it got so bad over about 9 months that I couldn't grip the cord to open and close our window blinds - but it totally vanished the week I stopped breastfeeding. I wish I'd thought of calcium tablets back then but it never occurred to me. Neither my GP nor health visitor or any of the specialists mentioned it either. So hope that can help someone.

Thanks for the advice re dd2's accidents and I think you are right midnight to make little fuss over it. I now wonder though if she does have an infection and will take her to the GP tomorrow morning. She's had another accident today and didn't tell me (so no attention seekeing) until I asked her why she'd taken off her skirt and she told me quite matter of fact-ly 'because it is wet...'

GF hope the xray is clear. Chest infections can take a surprisingly long time to clear in children.

BG you may have overtaken Stoof as my cosmic twin. My older DD (four in October) has suddenly become lazy about going to the toilet after being fine since toilet training some 18 months ago. I had been quite calm about it until it happened again today and I made us leave the farm we were visiting. She was gutted but unusually made no fuss about it, so I'm hoping it has hit home that you have to go to the toilet when you feel the urge, not when you're touching cloth! Grr. I look at my DD2 and can't believe that I'll go through the same battles with her in a few years time.

CC and GF hope your nights get better.

fizi how are you?

Lordy, I'm tired. Do the bottles, then straight to bed for me, I think x

hehe? cosmic triplets then hey? DD (will be four in nov) has also recently started having 'accidents' ? we've been very calm about it, but it's been bloody frustrating! been a bit like back in the early days of training - huge whoops for going to the loo, and quietly tidying up when not! we've just had 4 days in a row without any accidents, so hoping that we might have got over the worst (fingers crossed!) we started just taking her to the toilet every hour, and when she complained, explained that we would carry on doing it until she managed to start going by herself again. (never thought about UTI, how bad do i feel now!!??!!)

BC nowt fresh here? (see how quickly i've slipped back into my native tongue ) am in the middle of doing an application for a job i have no interest in, and don't want, but would pay sufficient to keep us all.. must summon enthusiasm cos need to be in bed for 9 too?. hope you sleep well wc

triplets then....

stoof I've applied for three jobs. Haven't heard about two but did not get an interview for one of them (Phew!

Just had a very long very enjoyable shower all by myself (ie. no audience and 3 year old telling me I am a girl... ). Funny how simple pleasures become so good after having childen, eh?

I'm sorry I've had to lurk for a few days apart from my quick note to BG and now I've completely forgotten who's said what. When DS1 had a UTI a couple of weeks ago, we were completely oblivious, apart from him weeing more frequently. If anything, he had less accidents as it was hurting to wee so he got more warning. However, I was amazed that there were no real symptoms, hence raising it. Sounds as if the others are dealing with it too though?

I have to admit that having one DS with an on-going unknown problem and one who has now been observed to hold his breath for a further 10secs after DH picked him up the other night is beginning to take its toll and wear me out. In all honesty, it's as much about the number of meds I have to administer each day (21 sets at current count) and fighting with the GPs receptionist who keeps giving me misinformation! Sorry for rant - I'm trying to stay 'up' and am very fortunate really.

On a positive note, the blood tests have come back fairly clear, though there are some questions as to whether the problems with DS1 could be allergy-based so we face more blood tests next week. Hopefully, he will be as good then as he was last week.

Good luck with the x-ray GF and those facing job applications/interviews. Midnight welcome back and thanks for tip about joint pain, which is affecting me at the mo. Having just stopped feeding, I shall await a sudden improvement.

Lastly, (and I promise to bugger off in a mo and leave the rest of you some room..), and at a risk of TMI, anyone got a prolapse? Suspect that now I have stopped feeding, my hormones have begun to change and a prolapse that was previously otherwise 'held up' has developed. I have a friend with similar experience but I'm not really sure what to do about it. I'm guessing the answer is go to the GP but I can't face starting another set of appointments at the mo, so my own answer is 'bury head in sand' where no-one can see my embarrassment!! One day we'll all be healthy I hope!

bethylou are you sure it could be a prolapse? My uterus flipped backwards after dd1 and felt like things were too far down and caused much worse PMT...(and caused some pain in early pregnancy with dd2) and one consultant seeing me pregnant with dd2 kindly told me it had 'collapsed'. Tried to find out more and it is very common for the womb to flip over backwards (normally leaning fowards - it's got to go one way or the other). Do see someone if you think there is more to it!!
Hope your dcs get better soon. I can barely remember to brush my dcs teeth, never mind give medication!! dd1 now reminds me that as the baby has two teeth she should have those brushed, too

Thanks BG - will let you know in a few months/years when I can face seeing a GP. We're there about twice a week with the boys at the mo and I just can't bear the thought of me going too! I'm sure they must think I'm either battering them or making it up! Have got the wine out instead!

bethylou excellent decision (the wine I mean)

watercress thanks for the tips on the spices! DH tried sweet potato + cinnamon + ground almond which was a big hit for breakfast. We then followed with spinach + apple + formula (to make it creamy) + nutmeg + quinoa (to thicken) for dinner which DD also gobbled up

Oh bethylou I feel for you. Good news that the blood tests came back clear. I hope you enjoyed your wine! (and do go to the GP... sorry)

I feel much better today, I think I had a blocked duct rather than full-blown mastitis and if nothing else it forced me to slow down and do nothing for a couple of days (when nothing includes laundry, cooking and housework obv). I would feel much more rested were it not for DD's new predilection for deciding it's morning after every night feed . Now that she's getting worse it's showing me how good she was, I suppose.

Good luck with the job app stoof and DS's xray GF.

Anyone else's LO decided that the best method of comminication right now is an ear-splitting shriek?

What if I change the setting ? should be DD2 at 5 months
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Bethy I hope you get better (go see the GP) and you have the results back clear for your DCs.

DD1 has got a high fever today waiting for the doc to come and visit. I do hope it is not contagious, and DD2 won't have it (it does sound like the flu though )

We had pee accidents whenever DD1 was scared/disturb (hospitals: visiting her sick Gran dad or going to the doc herself, my dad's freinds, starting the new school,...) May be your DC are just apprehensive of something. It took ages after for her to talk about what was troubling her.

mamaloco nope, still can't see the link

On the spices front, have now tried avocado with ground coriander seeds (courtesy of DH) which also went done well. I have to say that food is much tastier with the spices so much so that I eat what DD doesn't finish much less waste

And here's an old photo from when DD was at 5 months old attacking a banana. We're also one of the older ones - DD was born 23 Jan (about 11 days early).

sunangel och, he's cute. Look at those eyes!

mamaloco doctors doing house visits? you wouldn't get that over here... Hope your dd1 gets better quickly!!

fizi oddly, yes, the last two days dd2 has done the sudden shrieks and I have had to bite my tongue and not immediately tell dd1 off (we've had the odd pulling arm, standing on hand, grabbing toys etc... episode) because she's usually nowhere near.

sunangel that should have read she, not he...!! Brain a bit slow today.

dd2 looks pretty wild most of the time. She was born with longish dark hair and never lost that. Now there's a lot of dense short hair growing underneath, so it looks like a carpet with a comb-over . And it doesn't help that she keeps styling her hair with her food.

Hair here

lovely babies in febuary I think!
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BG Yes, but I do pay for that! But I remember the hell of putting DD1 in a blanket and in the pram and rushing the 35 min walk till the surgery in 20 min (uphill), me being wet (sweat and/or rain), all that for the doc saying "it is a virus, make sure she drinks a lot, keep the temperature down,come back in 7 days if it hasn't improved" (see I can be a GP in the UK! ).
Thanks, she just has a tonsillitis (2 this year instead of one a month last year, we are improving! )

My DD still has her birth hair no new growth yet.

mamaloco she is lovely! Also looks like she means business ie keeping up with her big sister Mine's nowhere near crawling as you can see on the picture..
Agree, we seem to only have cute babies on this thread!!

mamaloco yes you can be a GP here... I got the 'let's wait and see' line today when I took dd1

sunangel I do like the sound of those meals you are making for your dd and I would definitely have the leftovers [grin}