August 05 Babies!!!

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I thought i might be the first one ....

Name: Charlotte
Birth date: 7 July 2005 (@ 37.5wks)
Time: 4.41pm
Weight & length: 3.2kg, 47 cms
Where: Sainte Felicitie, Paris
Experience: Very quick labour, had epidural, no tearing or cutting, no stitches, baby and mother doing really well ...

can't wait to hear from everyone else ...

Miaou, my jaw has dropped open reading that you are going to try for a fourth. Respect. With regard to tummy time, DS1 always hated it so we never bothered, and he was still walking at 11 months. DS2 seems to hate it as well - he just lies there, face on floor, not getting the idea at all.

We had a busy weekend - I took DS2 into John Lewis on Saturday to have his hands and feet imprinted into clay for posterity - horribly expensive but I promised myself I would get it done. I pick the finished product up in 4 weeks. In the evening we went to the firework display outside my sister's house - I expected to spend the evening inside with DS2, but he was fascinated by it all and not frightened by the bangs. Sunday we went to DS's mum's for her birthday - the longest drive (2 hours each way) we've done with DS2.

DS2 has just started to get cradle cap. DS1 suffered horribly with it, and we treated it with a medicated shampoo in the end. I've tried olive oil, but it just turns the cradle cap yellow and I can't bear scraping it off.

I never did tummy time with the girls and they were both late to roll over/crawl/walk, though obviously that might not have anything to do with it! With ds I do it for literally one minute a day (built up from just a few seconds!), stay with him and flip him over as soon as he whinges. It works for him as he is getting happier for longer on his tummy.

We went out for our bonfire on Saturday night and ds loved it - I had to prop the back of the buggy upright so he could watch the flames! He went "oooh!" each time a firework went off too!

Azure, ds has cradle cap too and I also hate picking it off, but it's the only reliable way I have found to get rid of it!!

Hi, I am quite new to MN. I have an August 05 baby, can I join here???

What is all this "tummy time" about?? I have 4 children and all are "normal" and I have never done tummy time! Infact my first hated being on his tummy, my second LOVED being on his tummy and used to sleep like that (I know they aren't suppose to) and my third... I can't remember!! because I didn't know he should be doing it and my forth (Aug 05) won't let you put him on his tummy as he has a hernia (both an umbilical hernia and a hyetus hernia - wrong spelling- and is sick CONSTANTLY). He is developing fine though and is piling on the weight even though he is very sick all day and night (he is 13lb something now).

Miaou, I know where you are coming from with the whole wanting to try for another after Christmas. I have just had DS4 and I have 5 years between them all!! I fell accidentally with DS4 when DS3 was only 5 months (he is only 16 months now). I dreaded the whole thing, the pregnancy, the birth, having 4 so close together, having a 13 month age gap between DS3 & DS4. Now that I have had Max (DS4), and at the beginning it was really tough, now that we have some sort of routine for the 4 of them it is really nice and after not wanting another baby so soon after DS3 I am now wanting another!!! I haven't told anyone because all people do is go on at you and tell you how "mad" you are and "how are you going to cope" etc etc. Personally I find that once you get past two, the others just slot in and are easier and easier. I have never been broody (always been pregnant though)! but now I am really broody!! Even though Max is only 12 weeks, I would love another but if I were to have another my Mum & Dad would have a fit (not to mention almost disown me - not seriously) as they help me a lot with the boys. My DH does want one more though, so I know I would have his backing. It is a difficult decision as I am always being told it is "normal" to have 4 but not 5 (who makes these rules about what is "normal")??????

Hi there d&c, welcome! Congrats on your ds4.

Re tummy time - this is a new concept to me. The idea is that it helps them to strengthen their neck and upper body muscles ready for crawling. A lot of babies hate it, and I'm not surprised your ds4 does if he has hernias! It should say about it in your red book I think. AFAIK it's a "nice to do" rather than a "you're not a good parent if you don't"

As to having a fourth - I don't mind the "you're mad" comments, in fact I tell people just to get a reaction ! There are others on here with five - the lovely Marslady, and QueenEagle for a start. A lot with four too - Beetroot, Lonelymum, rickman, magnolia1, that's just off the top of my head.

My dear Miaou, I'd never be so rude as to call you crazy. All I have to say is DH is going in to get "fixed" next week. To each their own.

Glad to see so many others didn't do tummy time with their kids because their children hate it, too.

Just got over the stomach flu while having a cold this weekend. (Not so) DH worked both days this weekend, so he was no help. I'm just glad the kids haven't seemed to pick it up.

Hi Dazed what a lovely big family you have. I think some people say how will you cope with lots of babies cos they don't think they could cope. When I was pregnant whith DS1 i was telling everyone I wanted 4, lets just say that number is rapidly diminishing! Love DS loads dont get me wrong!

My Great grandma had 16, both my gannies had 7 (one had twins, 2 of my aunts also have twins) and they all coped - at least I assume they did.

My dp's sister is registered blind and had 5. After she had her last 2 years ago she was really broody for a little girl for ages, but with her husband she decided not to have any more due to her age etc - for a while she was mourning this little girl she wouldn't have but now she is really happy with the 5.

As CansC mommy said each to their own .

Hmm. My response to Miaou looks so rude compared to Pookey's one with a smile. Don't mean it that way at all, just that we've decided that we (meaning DH) are far too old to have another child. I couldn't imagine having 3 little ones.

Don't worry C&Csmommy, I knew you weren't being rude

It wouldn't do if we were all the same anyway, would it? (There'd be too many blimmin' kids for a start!)

Hi All!!

I think the worst thing is not being told you are mad for having so many it's the "you don't look old enough to have 4 children" comments that get me. I didn't have my first until I was 21 (which to some people is still young) but the way people talk you would think I was 14!!! They also PRESUME I am not married and they have different Dads(not that that is a problem, just not true in my case) and because I have all boys I am sick to death of people asking "do you want a girl?" (to which I normally reply that I have 1 SS and 2 SD's and that's enough girls for me) and if one more person asks if I am going for a five a side football team I think I will throttle them!!!

My grandad is one of 12 and my DH comes from a large family as his mum is one of 12 and all of those 12 had between 3 and 6 children each so it is no suprise that he likes having a big family.

My next door neighbour has 7 children and there are 3 other mums in our road that all have 7 not to mention the 4 of us in our road that have 4 boys (I think there is something in the water in Watford)!!!!

I am going to see how things go for a while and not rule anything out. I like having all of mine close in age so don't want to wait too long as I don't want 1 on their own so to speak but I have a lot on my plate right now with 4 so young.

You never know, by the time DS4 is a toddler I might have changed my mind and wonder what on earth I was thinking!! Even now I have days where I want 5 and days where I wish I had stopped at 2!!!

D&C you are a watford girl! I am from Harrow so used to go to watford on a friday night years ago, is it just me or am i right that everytime trevor mcdonald does a piece on binge drinking they always cut to that strip of bars with drunk people stumbling about and getting arrested?

Hi august mummies

DS is having a cat nap so thought I'd ask have any of you noticed any teething like symptoms yet? DS is a litlle drooly and he likes sucking my knuckle, he is also a bit whingey for unexplained reasons. There is no real sign of teeth just some little dints in his gums. Is there anything that can be done if babies are having pre teething pain (if that's what it is) or is it best to wait until actual teeth are making an appearance?

Apart from that it looks like month 3 should be fun he has suddenly learned lots of new tricks while my back was turned!

Have started visiting nurseries for when I return to work; the first was absolutely awful, really dingey and depressing , the second was posh with high securtiy (Isn't cctv a bit excesive?)but only got satisfactory from offsted and the third was lovely but down a back alley in a rough area.

Hope everyone is enjoying the lovely sunny day, should really take DS out for a walk in his hugabub (another unused pregnancy shopaholic purchase) rather than sit in here!

Hi pookey, yes ds is teething and has been doing so for about three weeks now. Still no sign of a tooth breaking through, but he has little hard bumps on his gums, plus he chews his thumb and dribbles a lot on the side where the tooth is coming through. I find that late at night he sometimes finds the pain just too much, in which case I give him some calpol which seems to do the trick. If you are bottlefeeding you could try putting teething powders in his last bottle - I got some for ds but it is hard to give him them when breastfeeding!!

Thanks Miaou, DS has been crying the house down for about an half an hour or so the past two nights which is something he never does ususlly (obviously he cries for short periods) so that may well explain it. My mum said to try calpol if he is seems to be in pain but I didn't like to unless I knew what was wrong, might give it ago if he is like that tonight. I am combining so might try to find teething powders at the chemist for one of his bottle feeds.

grrrrrr

just got back from the baby clinic. it is staffed on a rota and i keep getting the female HV (my assigned HV is a bloke). she treats me like i am stupid sometimes.

i mentioned i had got ds a lightweight sleeping bag as he is so long i'm having trouble finding comfy sleepsuits.....she kind of gave me a lecture about not overheating my baby.

i know i'm a new mum, and i'm still learning but i don't need her undermining my confidence.......i actually do think i can tell if my baby is too hot or cold.

what annoys me more is that she always has a trainee with her and i think she is teaching this girl appalling people skills. it's like she gives advice but it always comes across like she's a teacher with a bunch of incompetent students.

other than that life is pretty good. ds is chewing his fist like mad and drooling loads....i wondered whether he was teething (another thing the HV annoyed me about, apparently he's too young to be teething), and from what others are saying on here maybe he is.

i have a very 'talkative' baby who has very animated conversations with us, but especially with his daddy!!! it makes all the hard bits worthwhile when i hear his little squeals and gurgles

Had to laugh at the mention of tummy time. My doctor said at our 8-week check that I should put my August babe down for a few minutes a day on her tummy. I said that when I lay flat on my back and she was lying on my shoulder, she could lift up her head and look around but clearly it wasn't good enough for him. Doctor plonked DD on the bed face down, and she just lay there, face pushed into the tissue. In the end he picked her up and she'd left two perfect rings of dribble and snot on his couch. That'll teach him.
Moschops, I'm finding it difficult to know how much to wrap up our baby at night. Just trust your instinct. Mine's in a long-sleeved vest, a jumpsuit and gro-bag to stop her feeling chilly.

Hi all and welcome/congrats to Pookey and Dazedandconfusedmum !

Phoebe is 8wks old today and is a real treasure - she's smiling and gurgling away, feeding and sleeping well. She also does a great line in pouting (learnt from her dad honest ) and sometimes very loud yelling for no reason in paticular - involves going bright red from head to toe! Sorry I've not been around much but she's keeping me very busy, have skimmed down the last few wks worth of post and apologise in advance if I'm not too up to speed/miss anyone.

We've had a few adventures since I last posted - Phoebe had her first ferry trip to N.Ireland to meet the rest of dh's family a couple of weeks ago and Had her first plane ride this weekend when we went to visit pals in England. Today we braved the "Big Scream" showing at the cinema in town with an ante-natal pal and her dd - it was really lovely and relaxed, lots of other mums and babies around, and the noise wasn't a bother at all in fact all babaies were very well behaved - dd slept through most of it, think she liked it being all dark and cosey!

I'm now back down to my pre-pg weight although my belly is still wobbly and stretchy looking - not sure how to remedy this or get fitter as due to having had section still needing to be careful when excercising - any tips gratefully recieved?! Dreading taking dd for her jabs on the 15th but relieved that dh has day off and will be able to go with us and hold dd during - I hate needles and whilst determined to be calm and brave for dd's sake, am glad dh will be there for moral support! Is it the general rule that they react to their jabs and what do I need to look out for - have been advised to get in some Calpol just in case dd is a bit unwell after.

Miaou the pic of your ds is gorgeous, what a cutie! Wow at you thinking about another so soon - we're thinking about trying for our 2nd around Aug next year and also love the idea of a big family but not sure if we'll go past 3. Feel like I've got a lot to get my head around after ending up with the emergency section for dd - have been told that my chances of needing a section again are high due to having had one already and having a bicornate uterus - hate the idea of being induced again if I choose to see if I can have a vbac as found the induction process really sore.

candcmum, sorry to read about the tongue tie but glad that it isn't proving to be a problem.

Kate100, glad your wee boys leg has healed well.

Hope everyone is keeping well and their wee ones continue to be a joy - sorry this is a bit of an epic post.

Welcome d&cmum and congratulations on your fourth, I only have 2 boys and people are always asking if I'm trying for a girl, I can't imagine what it's like for you.

Moschops, your HV sounds rubbish. My advice would be to smile and agree and then do what you feel is right. It's not to early to be teething, those teeth take a long time to come through, poor little things. I agree with miaou the teething powders are wonderful and really seemed to soothe ds1.

I didn't mean to be rude Miaou , it's just not something that I could consider while I already had one that was so young.

C&Csmommy, your lucky DH I suppose it's about time these men put up with some discomfort on our behalf, we have had the babies after all.

Good to hear from you Twiga, glad that it's all going OK.

Been to physio today, luckily my pelvic joints haven't moved, so I have to work the muscles to hold it all stable. I'm really sore from the assessment though. Was glad I stuck to my guns about not having stirrups or having my legs too far apart during delivery though, as the lady in the next cubicle to me has had a bad back afer delivering her son in stirrups ........... 30 years ago!!!!!!!!!! The poor woman, it's made me more determined to do my exercises and get everything back the way it should be.

DS1 and I made biscuits this afternoon whiile ds2 was asleep. He got to choose the cutters so we have a lot of number 1's, as that's Thomas's number, and lots of hearts for mommy, bless his heart.

kate, you weren't rude at all! I did say you could tell me I was mad!!

Hello all. DS2 12 weeks already - it's amazing how the time flies. He was weighed Tuesday and has gone up from the 25th percentile at birth to the 75th - little fattie. He had his best night sleep ever on Monday night - only waking once between 7.45pm and 6.45am - but had his jabs Tuesday and has gone back to his old ways, if not slightly worse. He's just started to cry now so had better go - I wish we could master him having his nap in the cot.

Hi all

Twiga - can't believe your phoebe has already been on a plane and a ferry I thought taking DS on the bus was an achievment! Where do you live, if catching ferry to NI and plane to England -scotland or wales I guess?

K7 lol at the snot on the GP's sofa thingey, he had it coming! DS has been sick and then rubbed his face in it when we have put him on his tummy on the playmat - it seems silly to push the poor little pumpkins to do do stuff they dont wanna do?

Kate 100 and Miaou I got some powders but it says to take them dry on the tongue - they are ashtons and parsons infant powders, when i tried to put them in his mouth they ended up going down his nose! Are these the ones that you put in your lo's bottle? It's such a relief to know what's going on and lots of things make sense now

Moschops I just got a grow bag for DS this week and he has slept a tiny bit better I just followed the instructions - with blankets its tempting to keep piling them on anyway.

I think there are a million spelling mistakes in my messages, sorry!

I'm a devotee of grobags, I think they're less likely to overheat in them as they're arms are uncovered. I've got 2 real wrigglers, ds2 would freeze if it wasn't for his grobag, it's great!!!

Pookey, I only used the powders for ds1 after he was about 8 months old, ds2 doesn't seem to need them yet. I used the Nelsons ones that you tip into their mouths, I imagine they have the same effect if they're in a bottle.

DS2 is so big, it's a struggle to get him in his 3-6 dungarees, I can't believe how long he is, he's almost at the end of his grobag too.

Hi everyone, can I join you all? DD was born on 22nd August. She is our 1st and will be our only baby (she is a miracle - born after years of fertility treatment and miscarriages).

would love to be able to join in the chat

Moschops My neighbour's little girl had all her teeth by a year old - she got her first at 14 weeks! Unusual but it does happen! Some babies are even born with teeth. So the HV was talking bllcks..... Have used grobags with both children and they are brilliant. I think there is even research to show that they are safer than using blankets in terms of cot death etc. This sort of advice/lecturing from HVs is why I gave up asking them anything and came on these sites instead!

Hi Pookey,

Oh my God I am from Harrow too!!! (live in watfrod now though). I used to (and sometimes still do, if I am honest) go to Watford on a Friday night, we have prob been there at the same time!!! I lived in Harrow all my life until 3 years ago and still lived there when I had my first 2 DS's but moved to Watford when I needed a bigger house (to accommodate the Ds's and the other 2 DS's I have now)!! Re: nursery's in Harrow, where have you looked, I may know of a good one??!!

Welcome Em!! It must be such a joy to have a baby after so long of trying, I can't imagine how that must feel (I only have to lok at DH and I am pregnant)!! Congrats x x

Re: Grobags, they are GREAT!! far better than covers that they kick off. You eaither don't use enough blankets or use too many whereas with a grobag/sleepbag you KNOW they are ok all night and don't have to worry about overheating or too cold etc

Twiga - Back at your pre-preg weight already??!! Fantastic, good for you. I have had so many babies in the last five years, 4 to be precise, that I can't remember what my pre-preg wieght is!! (actually I can, but as I was only 20 I don't think it should count)!!! as for wobbly bits, as my Darling Mum keeps telling me (much to my annoyance, although I love her dearly) It's all about excercise!!!! (or plastic surgery, which is much quicker but costs way too much)!!!

Hello Em and welcome. I have a friend with a dd the same age as ds, conceived by IVF as her dh had leukaemia as a child. How very special your baby will be.

Shall we start a new thread? This one's getting a bit long.