March 2009 - The crawling / walking / talking race is on . . .

[jollyjoanne]

the new thread for March 09 mummies

slick sooked is a great word! We use cwtch (cuddle in Welsh) a lot, I also for some odd reason say ambulance in Welsh if I'm with DS1 .

DH is on his weekend off and so far was up til 3 am Thurs and Fri night with beers and FB. I am a bit cross (especially as I'd arranged a babysitter on Fri but DH cried off as he's got a nasty cold). But I did get to go and have my highlights done without kids tagging along yesterday, which was nice!

Am in a bit of a dilemma. DH is staying in tonight to be on a Facebook Wrestler radio show (yes, I know) so I can go out. A friend who is not very good socially (he's difficult to get on with and only wants to talk about roleplay games) is having birthday drinks and I don't think anyone is going. I feel rather sorry for him and don't want him to be by himself, but equally don't really want to be stuck with him either! What do I do?

Lau definitely find another friend to go with you!

hi all

long time no posting, sorry soooo busy...

lau, sounds like you area good friend, try and rustle up someone you would want for company as well, just to make it easier...

all go here. snuffly colds clearing up in the dds at last. dd2 has been sitting up unaided for a week!!!! yehhhhhh she LOVES it, and is much happier to see what is going on in her house. Mind you knowing her, she will soon be frustrated and want to start crawling.

no teeth as yet, but lots of dribble. still wakes in the night, oh well. She enjoys three meals a day now, and rice cakes for snacks. still BF her, but planning to stop soon.

missmod, do you give her baby yoghurts? they seem to soften things up.

i still use cool boiled water for her drinking. Slick: we are also having success with the sippy cup, tommy tippee is the best and i love it when they get the hang of it. mine seem to like blowing into it then the look of utter suprise when it shoots back at them under pressure is so funny!

meep hope things have settled on the sleeping front so to speak. i too think it is ok to let them sleep how they like.

anyway might have no more time to post as off on long haul flight on tuesday, to OZ for a few weeks. grandparents will meet dds for first time. Yes i am dreading the flight but looking forward to the sun.

xxx

ooopps jolly i had same suggestion at same time!

just added a pic of LO sitting...she can do it, just in time for holiday too, but not crawling so quite good timing really. will be so much easier eating out, etc, back carriers etc, sitting on beach, etc. yes i know i am rubbing it in!!!! just have not had holiday for years, and not been to OZ for 5 years.

Hi everyone, just a quick poo update from me - the doctor gave me this stuff called Lactulose which is nothing short of a miracle - after just half a teaspoon yesterday and today and M did the most ENORMOUS poo of just the right consistency. AND I didn't have to change it as DP discovered it first Bless her, she seems much happier now and only woke up twice last night, which is great progress

Glad to hear everyone's doing well! Hopefully my next post will cover stuff other than defecation

kanga what a wee cutey - she's gorgeous - am very impressed by her sitting!

miss glad the poo is out . I had lactulose after getting bunged up after my c-section - wonderful stuff! I can confirm that when it works you do feel a whole lot better!

lau did you go out?

slick I miss your chat when you're not here - so hurry up and get your diy done (then come round to mine and sort what needs done here - !!!)!

Right - can I have your thoughts on the lovely non-sleeping Rosie.

She eats solids so well - loves them and has not refused anything yet. Has breakfast lunch and dinner.

The problem is tea time. I feed her at about 5/5.30pm so that she eats at the same time as her big sis. She stokes up on solids then doesn't want any milk before bed at 7pm - maybe an ounce if we're lucky.

She then demolishes a bottle at around 11pm - and sleeps till 5/6am at best - ugh!

She is still having a milk feed at 3pm too - about 5ounces.

So.........do you think I should move te/solids earlier in the hope that she drinks her bedtime milk - or just not worry about teh bedtime milk as she is getting enough milk through teh rest of teh day/night?

What d'you all reckon?

meep my thoughts as follows:

can you cut down on the 5pm solids if you want to ensure she has a full milk feed at 7? and yes feed her solids earlier.

also could try putting her to bed later? our lo goes at 7 if her last nap ended about 2.30/3pm. if she has a later nap it might be about 8 or 8.30. she sleeps until about 7 or 7.30 then. with the usual night wakings of course!

i too am impressed with slick's diy...i couldn't ever get it done if it were me! hardly time to get on mumsnet these days...

x

meep no I didn't, caught DH's Manflu At least now I'm not BF I can have Lemsip again!

Rosie's pattern sounds a lot like G's, so we moved his solids to 4.30 (when DH eats 'breakfast' before his night shift) then he usually drinks 4-5oz at 6-7ish, another 7oz at 11 and usually sleeps until 7.30ish. I think we'll probably change it when I go back to work as I'll never see him awake otherwise!

Did get to sleep in til 9 today . Would have been longer but I seem to have lost my sleep in genes when I gave birth!

ugh to manflu lau - there are some real nast ies doing the rounds at the moment - get better soon.

I have also lost my sleep in genes - but I did go back to bed this morning after a 5am wake up from Rosie - it was heaven!

thanks for the food/milk advice! I will move her "tea" to 4.30pm and see if that helps. Means that dd1 will get picked up a bit later from nursery but she is going to have to get used to it as I will be back at work in a couple of weeks - eek!

kanga she is really ready for bed at 7pm - gets very fidgety and rubs her eyes a lot. She doesn't have a 4pm nap at all now - is normally awake from about 3pm till bedtime.

lau does Gabe still have a bottle at 11am and 3pm?

Am going to dig out some weaning books to see if they have any miraculous answers - I just want some decent sleep!!!!!!!

okay - am reading a weaning book which suggests cutti9ng out the 11am feed - and giving lunch at around 11.30/11.45 which I think Rosie would go for. Then a 3pm bottle - then tea at 4.30/5pm.

I will let you know if this works.................

(it wil bugger up my social life - but am more than willing to forgo that in place of some sleep!)

meep Some days he does, he seems to have 2 patterns at the moment:

Up at 7.30, breakfast, then bottle at 9 and nap til 11.30/12, lunch, play and bottle at 2, nap at 3.30/4 and then wake and dinner at 5, bottle and bed about 6-7.

OR

Up at 7.30, breakfast, then bottle at 9. out in the pushchair, snack at 12, bottle at 1 and nap until 3, then bottle, dinner at 4.3-5, and bottle and bed about 6.

Meep don't know if it will help at all but Mae has bf at 7ish, brekkie at 8.30 ish, bottle at 10 with a rice cake, lunch at 11.30, bottle at 1pm with another rice cake and tea at 3.30 followed by a bottle at 4ish which she only drinks a small amount of so could probably be swapped for water and then she is bf on demand in the evening but still normally at 7 ish and then again at 9ish when I put her down to bed (she hardly drinks anything though I suspect the bf is more a comfort thing now).

Wow reading that back she is a proper greedy baby! I must stress bottle wise she doesn't have very much only about 120mls so she is getting most from the food. But she is sleeping from 9.30 ish to 7 without waking too often.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - lunch at 12.30pm - nap - tea at 4pm - only 3.5oz milk at 6.30pm. I have a baby who is just not that into milk!

meep and jolly I think Gabe must be having alllll the milk love, he so prefers bottles to food!

Meep we doing

6.30am 7oz Bottle

8am breakfast

9am ish 30 mins nap

10.30am 7oz bottle

12pm lunch then nap.

2.30pm 7oz Bottle

4.30pm dinner

6.30 pm 7oz bottle then bed

I offer bottles at 10.30am and 2.30pm although he often leaves at least one.

He sometimes has 4oz 's of milk at 10.30 then his lunch at 11.30am then he will have the rest of his milk.

I also give a bottle when i go to bed (10ish) if i feel that Robert hasn't had enough Milk.

I have found with all mine that they are likey to take milk when half a sleep (dreamfeed) then they go through the night.

meep - dd1 did that. When she really got onto solids she gave up milk and was drinking no where near what she should. I had to give her loads of other dairy. At the time there were some yoghurts you could get which were made from formula but I don't think they exist anymore.

L on the other hand, has a 7 oz bottle anywhere between 3 and 7 in the morning, breakfast at 7.30/8, 6-7 oz at 1030-11, lunch somewhere around 1230-1, 6-7oz bottle at 330, tea at 530ish then bedtime bottle she takes usually 5-7 oz. Hmmm and I was wondering why she'd suddenly put on loads of weight.

Hey Y'all - The bathroom is on track and currently we have lots of hole in walls and wires sticking out and half laid tiles! Can't wait til it's done and I can get back to normal for a bit. Whatever that is.

Hey Meep A lot of babies can off milk a bit when the start food as they think, 'Why do I want milk when there's all these lovely new tastes I can have instead!?' But I think you are doing the right thing - I give the wee ones their lunch at 12 and he rarely takes much milk at that point but then has it for his nap at 1.45ish then I sometimes have to start making his tea at 4.20ish as I know he won't wait to eat with the rest of us. It kinda depends how the day goes, but Rosie's maybe just not quite at the stage where she's able to wait and eat with the rest of you or with her sister. (What is her name again?)

Kanga Enjoy OZ!! Am terrified for you of flying that far, with all those kids!!

Lol Miss I can talk about poo stories for hours too.

Lau We also use 'cwch' as DH is Welsh (although he doesn't know any Welsh really) and I think it's a fab word cos you can also use it for like a cubby hole area or a booth. 'The cwch' Fab. I taught myself to say the longest place name in Britain (Welsh as you know) and is now my sad party piece. Llanfairpwllgwngechgogerichllyndrobelllantisiliochgogogoch! Hah! It always makes me laugh!

Rosie slept from 11pm until 7am - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Thanks for all the tips ladies - I have read and digested them sall and reassuring myself that I am not doing anything to cause my little darlings nocturnal habits - it is just her!

I shovel fromage frais and yoghurt into her - and also use the last bits of milk to make her breakfast/cool down her lunch & tea - so in that way she should be getting enough. I am sure someone on here said that a small fromage frais has 4oz worth of milk in it!

kanga I am in awe of you even thinking of travelling to Oz with 5 children - you must have mystical child/toddler/baby whispering powers. But I suppose no matter what goes on in the journey - it will be worth it once you get there !

slick DH always said they won't let you leave Wales til you learn that one, as it's the first thing anyone ever asks!

I just love the fact it's so specific, sort of the equivalent of 'the church over there between the big tree and that little stream, you know the one'.

Lau Lol! I know that's exactly what it's like!

Have had no sleep the last three nights as we are all de-camped to mums (apart from DH) and so HHB is really restless and so is DD2 so I'm up most of the night, settling, changing nappies (that'll be the last of the apricots for a while ) and then the days have been tearing around keeping the boys fed and supplied with DIY materials! As well as looking after the kids! I can't wait to get back here to do the decorating as it will be a piece of piss by comparison. My mum's house isn't very toddler friendly so it is def harder. Hey-ho, hopefully not much longer.

Lula Maybe teeth? Maybe a growth spurt? Hope it will pass soon.

Hurray Meep for LO sleeping!

Arghh! Permission to moan ?? (and advance apologies for the 'me' post).

Was up most of last night with L - v.v. snotty, assumed teeth again. This morning she's been ok, a bit grizzly and off food a bit but not entirely. Gave her lunch, then a rice cake and she vomitted. Assumed she'd gagged, put her in car to go to dd1's swimming lesson - got up the road, big vom. She seems fine in herself really, just gone down for a sleep.

So don't know if its a bug (pleassseeee no....), excess snot and yukky stuff.

Tips and advice please - do I hold off milk ? Or give it to her if she wants it ?

Thanks Lula - well, she had a big sleep this afternoon, woke up, did a slightly dodgy nappy but not ever so, quite a few whiffy parps but other than that has been ok (touches wood). I gave her some pear and crumbled rusk for tea, some water with a dash of apple juice in instead of afternoon bottle and decided to try her on milk at bedtime. I water it down slightly. Will see how the night goes.....

Wheely Funny, HHB was like that yesterday too - it could have been a bug but I just put it down to teething! I prefer that idea than it being a bug! I've always been advised to carry on feeding them their milk at this stage. When they are older I have always kept them off dairy during a stomach bug as I was always told that it could kick start it again - I guess with milk being the way it is, But then, the last time DD2 had a bug the advise was starting to change. All advice along these lines, I find is like the weather and changes every bloody minute.

I now just go with gut instinct.

Had a better night last night as I booted HHB out to my parents room so I could get some sleep. My Dad reported that HHB was doing an Irish Jig all night so I think he may have kept him up instead.

Still, hopefully back home by the end of the week and I will have a fabby dabby new bathroom. Can't wait!

Hope everyone is well. xx