June 08- the shoes, the food, the glamour!

[pureeandpearls]

Struggling to load pages these days and saw we were over the 900 so took the liberty of starting a new thread.

Sponge - could your friends come round on a vaguely regular basis?

Neenz - I had a cereal bar and a banana before I set off yesterday and had cereal bars and things in my bag, problem is it hits really quickly and my bag was in the back so had to wait until I was at the point where I could get to it (and then saw the crunchie so went for that instead!). I've been fine ever since, although it has made me more paranoid about getting out and about, it worries me that I might faint while holding DS and hurt all 3 of us. Or he will be left to run riot somewhere dangerous like a car park.
I had the same sort of things when I was pregnant before and there wasn't much they could do about it, all the blood tests and BP come up as fine.

Deb- Tricky situation with moving, hope Nigel comes round.

On a lighter note it turns out we got the most hilarious book in the world out of the library yesterday, it's this one, Mummy with a lion face is the funniest thing ever!

Sorry ktpie, I didn't mean to come across all patronising although I am sure I did . You must have a cereal bar in your pocket at all times then for easy access! I can see why you're worried about fainting and dropping DS or not being able to stop him running off . Not sure about that one... will have a think and keep fingers crossed.

Abdn, lol at Nigel not doing the toilets, the recycling sounds like a horrid job tho Debs! Just tell him 'you must make the decision that you feel is right for the whole family' ie shame him into selling up because that is what you want.

I am really annoyed at my friend's potty training fb now - she has written 'hope it's not beginner's luck'... I feel like writing 'of course it is beginner's luck - luck that you have put her on the potty just as she needs a wee!' I don't know why I am so annoyed - I think because she is so impressed with herself when there is nothing to be impressed about! Competitive parenting from me I think tho I try not to do that.

I agree with you abdn that it is only making lots of work for yourself to try them too early. If they can't even tell you that they are doing a wee or poo then there is just no point. I would rather wait till they are three and have it cracked in three days than try it now and have a year or more of accidents. My grandma used to boast that she 'never had a dirty nappy after 12 wks old' with my dad, because she used to put him on the potty after every meal, but he still didn't toilet train properly till he was a toddler.

debs Sounds like a tough situation. Has he been unsure about moving from the beginging or just recently?

SPonge I used to find it easier being out of the house than in when dd1 and dd2 where very little. I feel quite restless when in all day.

rolf I had quite a lot of clothes battles with dd1. From 18 months she delcared she would not wear anything with buttons and that lasted until she was at school! SHe also wanted to wear a dressing up dress for about 2 years, it was like a rag by the time I threw it away - I just used to gve in and let her wear it.

Neenz Are you not potty training ! It really is pointless for the woman to do that to her daughter as she is going to have to learn again when she is actually ready to potty train. Both my girls did it when they just turned two and were both ready so it happened very quickly. DD2 first used the toilet when she was 16 months, well she kept climbing on to the bidet to pee in the apartment we were staying in on holiday - could not imagine ds being anywhere near to doing that!

Goingto you know there's quite a common button phobia. I heard about it on radio 4. I just googled it - long Greek name. Hopefully your daughter is over it, but it's quite common in young children too.

Debs tricky. No idea what I'd do - but I hate making big life changing decisions and sit around agonizing about 'what if I get offered a job at x university' or worse, 'what if x university advertise a job'.

Neenz haven't I mentioned that Iestyn has been potty trained for several months now? Yeah, right - how on earth is your friend going to manage that one? Bizarre. I have read about people who train their babies at 6 weeks and things (it has a name but I can't remember what it is - this was also Radio 4) but it sounded to me like you have to have lots of time to run around holding your newborn over a toilet etc, and have rather cheap carpets. Also, your grandma's comment - fine with some children, but Iestyn isn't clockwork. He usually does a dirty one before his bath, and often does one after breakfast, but not at the same time every day. (Saturday we didn't have a dirty nappy.) So I'd have to sit there for up to an hour (or maybe even all day) until he did, or basically strap him down to the potty. He would truly hate that!
Although - I doubt that this is significant, but last night, we were playing in the bath and I was dribbling water out of a little stacking pot thing he has, and it was just like wee. He looked at it and pointed, and then touched his willy, then did a wee. But then, likely to be totally coincidental really - and he's always touching himself (!) so I don't think he knows when the wee is coming.

An interesting dilemma for you - my FIL has just requested to be my friend on facebook. I don't want to be his friend! What do I do?

We are all about potty training here, have had wees in the potty for four weeks now and just mastering poos - but no competitive parenting here, it's with L not C, and he's 3 1/4! Good job nursery are understanding .... But there was no point trying before he was ready and he just wasn't until recently.

My mum claims I was potty trained at 15 months. She also claims I didn't walk until I was 18 months. Often in the same conversation.

Deb my dp is also terrified of change and has had to be carefully nursed through the whole house selling and buying process. I can't tell you the amount of conversations we have had where he claimed our house is fine as it is and we have no need to move - despite the fact that we still have Caitlin in with us at nights and we all live out of one wardrobe and chest of drawers. They just need gentling through change sometimes. But we got there in the end, so will you. Fingers crossed for the offer! (And 'we must do whatever you feel is right for the whole family' is a great tactic!)

AH yes mostly good busy - me going back FT was definitely right for us - but having said that, the slightest thing can throw the whole train off the tracks!

pmsl Systems, I really thought you meant C for a minute there!

Essie, you're dead right - my grandma was a bit of a tit in that respect so yes she probably strapped my dad down on the potty for hours at a time!

But I wouldn't be surprised if Iestyn does know about wee - when T has his nappy off before bath and sees himself weeing he looks at it and can even stop himself. So they are getting to that age where they have awareness but until they can at least say they are having a wee or poo it is futile IMO (and our babies are a lot older than my friend's baby). It has annoyed me mostly because I know she is wasting her time (but she thinks she has a 'very clever little girl' ) Must not take so much notice of what other people are doing!

Sorry I meant I should not take so much notice of what other people are doing! I don't feel so annoyed about it now anyway - I have posted 'Does she tell you when she needs a wee? Very impressed if she does!' Knowing full well that she does not

Naughty neenz!
I'd do just the same thing, an innocent but loaded comment!

But Neenz, I think you have missed the point here. Surely what is weird is thinking that it is appropriate, relevant or even interesting to be posting your child's level of continence on Facebook. Or maybe I am just stuck in the dark ages.

You're right Spider, who wants to know about potty training - yuck. She is obviously just so pleased with herself (Mum that is, obviously baby has no idea what she is doing ). She has even put ('sorry all non baby friends' - er, no love, sorry to everyone on fb!)

Sorry, must stop getting so annoyed about it

But that does actually take me to something I have wanted to ask for ages - do you feel you are heavily influenced by your hormones/time of the month etc?

I have never really had proper periods before (been on pill for years, no periods after mc etc) so I have never really suffered PMT, but now my periods are quite regular and I am finding my moods are very up and down, whereas before I used to just be happy all the time. I feel down or short-tempered before my period starts, and then maybe a couple of days after too (but that could be just cos of not getting PG).

Sometimes I feel like strangling DH - or bursting into tears at nothing - when I have never been like that before. Just wondered if that is normal?

LOL Systems. About to go out, but in brief Neenz, every month I get incredibly cantankerous and feel utterly pissed off with everything and everyone. Then I realise that it is about five days before my period is due which makes me feel better as there is a reason for it and it will go away. After that though I am fine.

Hi everyone, busy revising so not too much posting. Went to the library today but had to come home because it was bloody freezing.

Wanted to share that S said 'mama' to me for the first time yesterday . He's not much of a talker yet so I was very chuffed!

Potty training... I definitely want to hang on till S is really ready, it sounds like it will be much easier. However , essie is right in that there is a technique about potty 'training' from the off. Can't think what it's actually called, but I think that it's abbreviated as EC. Quite controversial I think - I've seen threads on it here on MN. DH has friends who were trained that way and I think they might have done that with their DC. Have never asked him about it though. Is it your friends pfb neenz?

Oh andNeenz - yes that monthly mood swing is perfectly normal!

Well, neenz, it came back to bite me...my friend here has a little girl who is a month younger than Iestyn, and she announced today that the little girl is on the potty and did two wees in it...! Now I'm having issues about it!

Monthly mood swing - for me, it depression. I get really miserable. It was awful when I was on the pill, and I'd dump DH every month about 5 days before. It's quite awful really, and I always have job depressions etc etc. I also had AND, so hormones and me really don't do well together!

Neenz - you didn't sound patronising, it was good advice thank you.

After yesterdays faint epidsode I decided to take it easy today, then I got blooming tunnel vision again this morning, it went quickly and hasn't turned into anything else. I'm a physical wreck at the moment!

Neenz- funny about your friend potty training her daughter, try not to get too worked up over it though! I used to get rubbish PMT too and be liable to bursting into tears at the slightest thing.

Essie - What did you do about your FIL on FB? I thought that when my dad wanted to be my friend and now he is being offered to everyone I know! Similar with SIL, everything I put on there goes straight to the ILs.

BDQ - great about the talking. J seems to be saying less rather than more these days.

Ktpie, sorry you've not been feeling great. I've only skimmed the last few days - have you had the vision/migraine incidents checked out. I got a really strange visial disturbance and migraine when I was pg and it scared the bejeesus out of me. It was just a pg related migraine though. I remember feeling awful!

I'm so bloody bored of studying! I'm not even being productive which makes it worse. I spend hours with my books but not motivated to do quality revision. Now feeling guilty about all the time 'studying' that I've not spent with my family (in that I'm wasting so much time IYSWIM). Though not guilty enough not to be on here obviously

neenz hormones yes! although I think my moods are a bit worse because I'm just way more frazzled - the twins could be a factor!

neenz and essie it is too early to potty train!!! No more thinking about it until they are at least two! A friend of mine bragged about how her girl potty trained at 22 months, but everytime we saw her she would have an accident. Now, at over 3.5, she still has accidents whereas my DS1, who trained at 2.5 never really did. Sometimes I wonder if she didn't train her daughter to have accidents IYSWIM since her DD was just too young to make it to the toilet every time.

Although speaking of potty training, Deb and Rolf - how do I potty train DS1 at nights? He's totally fine during the day but reluctant to give up the night nappy. That'd be fine, but he's peeing so much at nights that it leaks through often and if we're going to have a wet bed anyways.... Should I wake him up to take him to pee at 10pm and 5am? (when I'm up).

essie re fb, I'd ignore the request! But then I can't comment on some people's pics as I've ignored things from their friends and am trying to pretend that it's just because I don't use fb much...

BDQ - could you set up a reward system? I used that when I was finishing up my PhD. I made a checkmark for every quality 1/2 hour I did and once I'd got 5 checks, I got a treat or a break etc. It is actually amazing how much more productive it made me, I was getting more work done in 2.5 hours than I'd done previously all day.

Abdn we had a similar problem with DS1. We used to take him to the loo when we went to bed and he'd manage to do a wee then. Doesn't work with every child though. DD1 (4) still wears a pull-up at night and waking her up for a wee wouldn't work, I don't think.

I'm not even thinking about potty training until Thea is 3. Mine have all been really late to potty train and I think they do it when they are ready. Rushing to find a loo when you are out is a real pain, too.

Hope the offer arrives today Deb

Rolf that does reassure me, as by waiting till after he was 3 L has been by far the latest of all his friends! but he got the hang of it really really quickly once he did start. C is showing an interest in the potty already - but only because she wants to copy everything big brother does. She went and sat on the naughty step the other day, then when I told her she didn't need to as she hadn't been naughty, she reached up and scratched my face (scratching has been L's big issue recently)!!

Ktpie - it sounds as though you have taken on the mantel from Sponge of the most pg person on the thread, and so you are wholly entitled to be a physical wreck. Puree will take over once you have hatched #2. Seriously though, do make sure you get yourself checked out. Is your BP ok at the moment?

Essie I used to have very nasty thoughts about poor DH too. He is lovely and doesn't deserve it. I also used to hate my job and feel totally depressed 5 days before my period. Hormones are horrid like that, although they do lots of other amazing things too. There was a thread on here the other day linking to an article about the (negative)effects that the pill has including messing with your hormones. Will see if I can find it.

I actually used to think women made a big deal out of PMT and just used it as an excuse . I have been quite shocked actually.

It is terribly unfair that for 20-25% of the month we feel like murdering someone or bursting into tears. I can't wait to go back on the pill so the hormone swings stop! Does the coil stop the hormone swings or not? But at least you get a 'horny' period in the middle of the month which I never got on the pill, so the hormones are good for something

Essie, what did you do about FIL? I would either just bite the bullet and accept or just pretend you didn't get the request. Why exactly don't you want him to be your friend? I find fb a bloody minefield now with so many people from so many parts of my life on there (union, church, family) that I am always sure to offend somebody no matter what I write.

Spider, your instincts were right about my fb friend potty training cos she has posted 'GranJean started it - every time we change her nappy we put her on the potty and she performs - two poos and two wees today'. So yes her M or MIL is involved . But if her dd (yes, pfb, how did you guess?) does a poo every time she has a clean nappy on (which some babies do I hear) then I can understand the potty technique (a bit). I wouldn't do it though - in fact, what is that all about? Cos if mine are in disposables I only ever change them just after they have done a poo anyway. Mine poo after they eat and not really any other time, which is very convenient .

Don't worry Abdn, I am not going near potty training till next summer at the earliest. The later the better IMO.

Systems, lol at C sitting on the naughty step and scratching your face. Monkey!

BDQ, get back to revising!

Hi guys, marking my spot and LMAO at the early potty training stories - I find it's one of the things that parents get most competitive about at this age and it's just sooo dull! As spider says, why is anyone posting this crap (excuse the pun!) on FB?!

My boys won't be trained til they're 3 unless they show any great interest before then. Nappies are sooo much easier than stressing about where the nearest toilet is and whether you have time to get there!