Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Post-natal clubs

Join our Postnatal Clubs forum to find parenting advice for newborns.

Dec 08 mums - embuggerance to it all - sleep or no sleep we love our babes

999 replies

waitinggirl · 15/06/2009 08:01

i hope people don't mind, i took the bull by the horns and did it. title a bit naff, but more important the thread exists rather than search for a better title. hope i haven't stolen anyone's thunder...

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
Veggiemummy · 21/06/2009 09:33

NJAN when DH was having all his tests to pick up what was messing up his digestion apart from Gluten one of the other things that he came up as intolerant to was red meat. Obviously it is not something he has to cut out of his diet like wheat but we were surprised because we didn't realized you could be intolerant to meat.

I think there is def something that happens with hormones or lack of sleep around 5-6months. I'm a grumpy bugger lately, really snappy with poor DS1 and DH. I remember it first time around, up until 5 months I was on cloud 9 and didn't care about having to wake up for him because he was my beautiful boy then a couple of months later I could have happily walked out on him.

NJAN I know what you mean DS1 is a very active boy and I love him for it but he was quite tiring, the good news is it's get better as they get bigger and start to walk and the very quickly after run they find outlets to burn off there energy. I'm also very lucky in that I have a very active DH. Going to the park with them is like letting 2 puppies off their leashes. I would say your going to have to learn to be ok with him moving a little way away from you. It's good to find a nice big park where he can run a safe distance from you. The more you try to contain them the more they need to run.

notjustanumber · 21/06/2009 09:33

My DH is still in bed
He's not getting much else though. A big kiss perhaps....

Veggie, its difficult with other kids. I have this problem with my older neice and nephew, dont always treat mine nicely. DS1s keyworker made the point that I need to stand up to them in a nice way, otherwise from DS1s perspective it doesnt look fair. Stresses me out loads though. My brother and his wife have different ideas of parenting, I think theirs are rude and impolite (never say hello, have no table manners, but they think this isnt important). I'm positive I do stuff they dont like as well.

Veggiemummy · 21/06/2009 09:35

Sorry that last paragragh was for Stained not NJAN, I need coffee but unfortunately have run out so it's tea for me, so I have tea brain.

notjustanumber · 21/06/2009 09:52

Veggie that intolerance to red meat thing is interesting. DH thought I was making it up when I ate some meat round his sisters, until he felt my stomach which had gone rock hard. I just cant do it. (His sisters always thought I was terrible feeding their little bro a veggie diet, so bad for us )

jumpjockey · 21/06/2009 10:19

Morning all, happy father's day to any lurking dads! DH got frosties and coffee in bed - I said did he want dd to make his brekkie but we concluded that 4 years until she was able to reach the cupboards and another 4 until she was allowed to use the kettle was a bit of a long wait

staines welcome we're pretty much all sleep obsessives on this thread so you'll fit right in!

trace your poor friend, will keep her in my prayers. I know two ladies in their early 40s who have been clear for 5 years and now perfectly healthy, it does happen very often now so while it's no fun for her at the moment her chances of getting through this are very good.

kayz - well daily contact on MN makes someone a pretty good friend, that's how I think of you lot so as long as you're not going to do your wrist any harm, stitch away Hope the hangover's wearing off...

effie wine in the bathroom?!! You do know that it's traditional to say dada first before mama because it's easier - nothing personal I'm sure! How cute with the babbling, it must be lovely. Rice cakes - we have some salt free ones made by Kallo, they're just rice and nothing else. Adult size rather than kiddy, dd loves gumming them til they go all soggy.

zj I hope you didn't cave and get dh a big pressie for father's day, what a cheek! DH had the aforementioend frosties in bed, and a little book of pics of him and dd. That's quite enough especially as it's his birthday on Tuesday and I'm uninspired for that as it is so far he's got Goldfinger on DVD, and a couple of pairs of silk knot cufflinks. And that's it!

verso - recipe books, another vote for Nigel Slater, especially the "real fast food", it's all very easy quick but delicious stuff. And then it says if you liked this recipe, try swapping ingredient X for ingredient Y and you have a whole new meal.

daisy love sorry you're having rough nights still. Two kids = more than twice the work by the sound of it but hurrah for your mum coming to the rescue. Leaving baby asleep on the drive sounds eminently sensible!

spot hope you're having a fabby camping trip!

veggie going back a bit - you quite deserve 2 lots of G&B if you're even thinking about a triathlon.

arti your dh's book sounds fab, if he wants any advice form an (ahem) professional medievalist I'd love to natter on about it. Saying that my PhD stopped in 1200, but never mind that. John Hatcher is a great authority on the subject if he's after lots of books.
lal booo to whoever nicked your bag, hope karma comes and bites them on the bum.

ladyt good to see you, sorry about the rows. Hope you had a lovely party (slightly embarrassed to say this) you mentioned you'd stuck something in the post, nothing's arrived, is my writing horribly illegible for the address? (gah that sounds so awful but I didn't want you to think I wasn't saying thankyou and being horribly ungrateful)

indith sorry about the bad nights. I've seen people recommending leaving a couple of dummies within reach so that if the baby loses one in the night they can find another? Would that help at all? DD never took one (despite our efforts and lots of expense in Boots ) so we've never had to deal with weaning off it.

veggie/njan Re meat production, we try to only have stuff from our local butcher where eg the cows are grazed on meadows near town, the sheep are local. Is that ok?! I guess it's the industrial production that causes the problems and all the deforestation for soya for animal feed Grrr. Don't want to end up on a Hugh F-W rant but it makes so much sense to be veggie most of the time and good quality meaty one or twice a week rather than crap meat every day. How can we bring up a generation that doesn't feel meat and two veg is essential every day? i was veggie for about 12 years and my dd quite sensibly said If you want to be veggie you can cook for yourself. In the end I did a lot of cooking for the family from about 13 onwards, and everyone eats veggie quite a lot now as they know it's not just lentils on a plate .

well our news is that I spent most of Friday rejigging my CV to apply for a new job! There's a 5 year project starting this autumn in my department and the job is the grade above mine, I have all the qualifications and experience it needs so thought I may as well apply. It's a tricky one though, at the moment I'm going back to my current job part time for a year then planning to return to full time at the end of the year (a graduated return scheme). If I got this new one, it would have to be part time for the whole 5 years - as it would be a job share from the outset. I ended up doing the application in a rush as I know the guy who will be project manager, asked him at the outset to let me know if anyone expressed an interest in job share and he never did, so on Friday I emailed just to say "any news...?" and he said yes someone had asked about it, and Friday was the deadline... . So on the one hand it would be great to be able to stay with dd a couple of days a week til she goes to school, on the other it would be a pay cut as even though it's a higher grade, it would be pro rata. And while it's a pretty long contract, at the end it would be over, whereas my current post is permanent (bloody lucky I know). But would I be looking to change job in 5 years or so anyway? Gah. Well we'll have to see if they call me for interview and think about the sums then!

notjustanumber · 21/06/2009 10:48

JJ Good luck with the job You can always decide when you get offered it !

Whats your PhD on ? Sounds interesting - I'd love to be rich so I could just keep studying. When I'm an old hag with nothing better to do I plan to just do loads of OU courses..

Kayzr · 21/06/2009 12:06

i have the perfect cure!! Watch Mamma Mia!!! Colin Firth and Pierce Bronsen are just gorgeous!!!!

Veggiemummy · 21/06/2009 12:32

Oh know what you mean Kayz. Luckily I don't have a hang over as it's all mister maker here. DS1 is feeling a bit poorly. I also clearly do need coffee as I'm still in my dressing gown and feeling greyheaded. There is a summer Fayre at the local Buddhist center so am going to drag the boys out to that. Luckily there will be coffee as the center has a nice cafe. Happy summer solstice!

pmk1 · 21/06/2009 14:02

Hello all!

Zoe - yes I still use the wedge pillow as it's great since you can move the wedges further apart since they are attached by velcro. I don't use it in the cot much anymore as he likes to roll over, but mainly if he's lying up on a couch on a pillow or in the bouncer etc as he seems to go to sleep easier with it sometimes. He'll soon be able to sit up so it won't work then I spose.

Veggie thanks , yeah, such a relief to get a tenant especially in these times, and with a month to spare.
Triathalon - brilliant effort! loving the diet

Sybil, nice to see you but sorry to hear about potential job loss

Indith, dummy ditching actually went really well. He has never really used it other than for naps,(and don't get me wrong everyone else I have nothing at all againts dummies it's just that he was waking 3 times a night only to have it shoved back in I figured it was easier to get him off it now than later) anyway, poor boy, I also dropped his last late feed at the same time, and only had to give him a bit of water once on the first night. He was cutting back too much on his daytime feeds and wasn't waking up hungry at all. He still woke for the first 3 nights but I only rubbed his back and he went back off to sleep - and on the 3rd night he woke twice, and then the 3rd waking he settled himself! last night he was absolutely knackered to be fair, but he slept 12-7 and didn't wake at all (however I am a bit hungover today so if he did wake it wasn't much of a cry!)_

Kayz, no more Wii unless it's Wii-fit hope it gets better.

Hello Oli

Congrats Verso!

Spot- hope the camping is fun!

Hello Lal! Bugger about the shopping bag

Welcome Staines

Lady glad you are feeling better - Italy sounds lovely!

Well I'm joining Kayz with the hangover here after a BBQ last night and not much food Anyway, feeling better now!
I ended up putting my buggy for sale to see what happens and got a very quick sale for a very nice price! Went into a flat spin after that as I have a lot of upcoming trips so bid on one the same day and got a very nice P&T - also for a very nice price so I'm very ! DS has been a lot better these days - the first 2 nights of the de-dummying was trying to say the least, however I think it's paying off now, and as my frind said, by the 3rd night I could see the light at the end and the 3rd waking on the 3rd night he settled himself! last night he slept through from 12-7 but admitedly his sleep from 7-12 was very broken and disturbed so he was knackered. I de-dummied and cut out the last feed all in the same week which was a bit mean however he's handling it and has upped his milk intake to what it should be again so pleased about that.
Someone said Barcelona? I am probably off to Barcelona next weekend but I can't decide really - it's a very very nice hotel but DH will be working the entire time so trying to decide whether its worth going?
I haven't flown short haul with a baby yet - can anyone tell me if I take the buggy - do they also check it at the aircraft door and then give it to you at the door again when you land like they do on long haul flights? Is it worth taking? Should I get a travel bag for it?
Anyway, I had loads more but can't remember and have written quite an essay here so better post...
Oh and happy Fathers day! DH said ds wants to buy him a crank set for the bike and apparently dh said ds is going to bid on it on Ebay dh also got Eggs Benedict and sausages for breakfast!

Veggiemummy · 21/06/2009 14:23

Oh I love eggs florentine, benedicts vegetarian cousin. Hollandaise sauce is just yummy!!!

PMK it depends on the airline and the airport most usually let you check in at the gate or the steps of the plane. But not all have it available at the plane when you get off, in that case it will be at the baggage pick up place. I would def take it, I've never used a bag, (though was given a plastic bag to put it in by JAL), if your travelling alone it is great to have the chair, if you doing lots of wandering it can be a bit much to wear them all the time. The only time it's a problem is when there are stairs down to the tarmac for the plane or plane bus thing. If this is the case and I don't have DH with me I just get other passengers to help me. I would def go, if you don't send me, I love Barcelona.

Bisou · 21/06/2009 17:03

Hi there all you gorgeous mummies

I'm a bit behind, so going back...

Veggie we don't have any of the bonds easysuits - I wonder if they come in a size 2 though? DS is huge. Trace if there's a spreadsheet, we weighed him a couple of weeks ago and he was 9.95kg (22lb?) so he must be more than that now. And he's long too, people think he's much older than he is. He was 4.44kg at birth (a smidge under 10lb). I'll have to weigh him again when he's 6 months (in three days!! Hello Christmas day mummy mates SL and WG )

Kayz I read that with the Shettles method women should 'avoid orgasm' when trying for a girl. LOL. Like that's gonna happen... we'll be trying for another boy I think

Verso HURRAH about the job! I'm so pleased to hear it, especially after you got messed around with that promotion. That'll show em! Effie and MoM regards maternity bras (which I hate!) I am just going to get some clips to sew on regular underwire bras next time (I say next time as the last time I expressed milk was about 3 days ago, as it's getting really difficult to keep it up now I'm back at work all the time).

Jump this is the new opera the company is doing next year...

Spot LOL at 'Toblerone' poo, I am always on the lookout for them now!

I'm so sorry for everyone having rough nights. I've started baby bootcamp again tonight here. I think baby J's sleeping got all mucked up with teething, then he got used to waking up a lot again for milk. So I've reinstated water for inbetween normal feeds (as long as he does at least 5 hours for first stretch, then at least 3 after that). I really hope it works, but am not holding my breath. Oh and did I mention we got a tooth recently too?

All this talk of recipes is making me hungry. I think we should all share our favourite recipes... preferably veg ones as we seem to have a lot of veggies on here, and preferably healthy... and quick and easy. Hmmm. Take-away anyone?

Sorry to not catch up properly with everyone, as I'm still behind with my music learning (gah). But am trying to read to try and keep up. Smooches for now! xx

daisydora · 21/06/2009 17:35

NOt caught up properly yet but just had to post and say DS slept till 3am last night and went back to sleep till 6.30! Progress, felt so much better this morning.

Right off for a catch up but hello & welcome staines. Thank goodness for this thread and our sometimes(quite often) non sleeping babies. I think I'd have gone bonkers without my Dec 08 mummies by now

Bisou · 21/06/2009 18:14

That's good news Daisy, hope it continues to improve.

Here's one of our favourite veg recipes (my husband wrote it out previously and I had it in an email):

Nut Roast City Limits (Cashew Nut Loaf)

2 tbs oil
2 large onions, diced
2 medium tomatoes, diced
170 gms cheddar cheese
2 eggs, beaten like the bad boys they are
2 cups ground cashew nuts
1/2 cup bread crumbs or wheat germ
1/2 tsp mixed herbs

Saute onions in oil, add tomatoes. Cover, allow to simmer for 3-4 mins. Put cheese into large bowl, add eggs, nuts, breadcrumbs and herbs. Mix in onions and tomatoes. Put into greased loaf tin and bake in a 200 degree oven for
35-40mins.

Yum yum. Sometimes I put some pistachios in there too. You definitely need a food processor to crush the nuts though, it's a PITA doing it manually.

jumpjockey · 21/06/2009 19:20

Evening all. DD having really odd days at the moment, seems to be suffering separation anxiety (DH actually tested this - he's holding her, walks to the other end of the room from me - waaaah! Walks a bit closer - waaaah! Gets within about 2m - all fine. Steps back - waaaaah! ) and finding it very hard to nap - has managed about 2 hours all told this weekend She's learned a new whingy noise - mouth tight closed mmmmmmaaaaaammmmmmm really high pitched. Oh how I love that sound BUT she's also learned to play peekaboo which is v v v cute

njan my thesis was on religious and literary patronage at a benedictine nunnery in late Anglo-Saxon / early Normal England. Thrilling stuff!

pmk good news there on the buggies! If you can make it then definitely go to Barcelona, bit of culture and some sitting in parks with nipper looking adorable - absolutely do go!

daisy hurrah, that sounds like a fabby night! It's amazing what a difference a few hours sleep in a rown makes to how human one feels.

bisou - hmmm let me guess, you're the dramatic sop playing Betty...? Sounds exciting!

My fave veggie recipe:

Chop a couple of peppers (red/yellow) into chunks, and ditto a couple of onions. Fry them up til they go soft and start to brown around the edges in a large frying pan. Add a tin of chopped toms and a teaspoon or so of harissa or paprika. Cook away til it's all soft and flavoursome (about 10 mins) - you might need to put a lid on as it can get a bit thick at this stage. Then make 4 hollows in the sauce, break an egg into each one, and put a lid over so the eggs poach in the sauce and the tops steam. We usually have it with pasta + olive oil + S&P but it's also good on toast if you can't be arsed!

Oh and my absolute cupboard standby, care of Mrs Lambert and 1st year Home Ec. Her version used about 1/4 the amount of actual ingredients and was much waterier, this has evolved over time into more of a casserole than a broth but can be adjusted according to how hungry you are!
A cup of red lentils
Couple of potatoes
Carrot
Celery
[couple of rashers bacon if not veggie]
Onion
clove of garlic
Chop the above into approximately even sizes. Bung in a big pan with some oil, put on lid, fry gently for 10 mins shaking regularly (do not let the lentils stick to the pan and burn, you'll be v disappointed if this happens and you have to have just the bread and butter for tea without any soup )
Add enough water to cover and then a bit more, a stock cube or two, tsp of dried mixed herbs and a tbsp of tomato puree. Bubble away for another 15 mins until all the veggies are al dente. Add a bit more water if it gets too thick for your taste. Consume vigorously with bread and butter

stainesmassif · 21/06/2009 19:33

mmmmmmmmm jj, your recipes just made me hungry!

Veggiemummy · 21/06/2009 20:35

Oh my goodness JJ I'm having that egg one on toast for breakfast tomorrow.

DH home hooray, but has terrible ulcers from staying up late and drinking too much vodka for that past several nights. My man is def no raver, even when we were younger he used to leave me at the clubs with friends and go home to bed. Poor DS1 is really unwell, we didn't end up going to the Buddhist thing as ds1 didn't want to leave the house. I was going a little stir crazy and needing caffiene but luckily a friend came around with some coffee and we had a nice chat then later on a lady who lives around the corner but by for a chat on her way past our house.

That reminds me I have met a few other mums recently at a BBQ DS1's nursery. I know all the kids at the nurseries mums as it's a small nursery, but there were a few mums there who were having a look at the nursery so came to the BBQ. Anyway I have run into a couple of them around town and they seem to not do swapping phone numbers but just like the popping in thing. They are nice and I like spending time chatting and coffeeing with them but I'm really not into the whole 'popping in' thing. In London I always had peoples numbers and would text to see if friends wanted a coffee, I don't feel comfortable with the 'pop in' my house always needs a quick 5 min tidy up in order to get all the crap into our bedroom and close the door!!!

Oh Bisou the nut roast sounds fab but I'm not allowed nut roast as cruel and unusual smells eminate from me when I have eaten nut roast.

traceface · 21/06/2009 22:35

evening ladies
Welcome Staines - i recognise your name so I must have bumped into you on another thread...perhaps a sleep related one?!!
JJ I might try that egg/veg dish sounds yummy! I have a nut allergy so lots of veggie stuff is off limits for me
Veggie - I hope people would tell my dd1 off if she did something unacceptable to their child. I saw her push a girl out of her way when I went to watch her at sports day and I was just sitting there, unable to go over and tell her off, hoping that one of the teachers would have seen and would tell her off!
Well dh had a cuppa in bed from me and a bit of a lie in - basically the same as most weekends! DD1 bought him a No.1 Dad teddy and dd2 allowed me to use her feet to make a printed mug! We went over to Manchester to see my parents this afternoon, which was lovely, then dh and I spent the journey home discussing how to discipline dd1 better! The fun we have! She's becoming quite defiant and has to be asked LOADS of times before she does something. Seriously, on Thursday I timed her from me saying "go and get your socks and pants on" to her having her sockes and pants on....19 minutes It's driving us mad but we're not sure was to use a punishment/consequence. We've had naughty corner for a few years which has been great, but it doesn't really bother her going there any more. She's not so fussed about TV that a TV ban would worry her...she doesn't get pocket money yet so we can't use that...she quite enjoys being sen to her bedroom because that's where all her toys live! SO really we don't know what to do! The thing she seems to love most is food and I know she'd HATE being sent to bed without tea, but is that actually cruel? This parenting lark doesn't get any easier!
DD2 has been resisting her naps for a few days but has started to take her solids a bit better. I gave her a bit of an Ella's Kitchen pouch and she wolfed it down much more than my home made purees ! She's doing a fairly consistent 3 feeds per night still, usually 9 or 10ish, 12 ish and 3ish but I'm not doing too well I don't think. Perhaps it's the 6 month thing you were talking about? I too feel overwhelmed by the tiredness at the moment. TBH when the moment she latches on for a feed I get a sudden feeling of being completely drained, like I could just curl up and die! After the feed I perk up again and keep going then next feed it happens again - the moment she's on me I just want to weep with tiredness - it really does feel like she's drinking my energy away. Does anyone else get this?
Sorry I've waffled on!
Better go to bed - under 1s group tomorrow - yay! It's my favourite part of the week!

traceface · 21/06/2009 22:45

actually - before I go to bed - I was going to run something by you all...
I am a paeds nurse and have only ever done ward work. Before my mat leave I was enjoying it less and less and if it hadn't been for mat leave I would have been looking to leave. I'm not sure whether I just needed a break, or need a change of ward, of environment or a change from nursing altogether. I've wanted to do school nursing for a while and applied a couple of years ago for a school nurse post. I got an interview but then I pulled out because I thought it was the wrong timing. ANyway as I was feeling so unhappy on the ward before mat leave I just decided I'd go back for 3 months (to make sure I keep my mat pay!) then reassess to see if I felt better from the break, or whether I still needed a change. I've discussed all this with my manager and she knows how I've been feeling. But...a school nurse post has just come up! Part of me thinks I should do as I planned and go back to the ward to see how it goes, but the other part of me wants to apply for the school nurse job. I'm not sure when the post starts or whether it would be suitable, but I meet all the criteria on the job description and I feel quite excited at the thought of it. It shouldn't affect the pay thing because it's in the same NHS trust as the hospital where I work so the same employer. I don't know what my manager would say - or whether it's daft to make a decision while I'm not at work...eeek! I'm no good at decisions - what do you think?

spotofcheerfulness · 22/06/2009 09:03

Hi folks, got back from camping last night, had a great time, thanks for all your kind thoughts. Thought I'd be devastated to be separated from Mr T but I was actually fine and so was he so will def try a repeat performance soon.
Still, up at 1am and then at 5am for the day so feel back in it already! .
Trace and JJ, sounds like you've got some v exciting job prospects, all I would say is apply - and then you can always change your mind if you're offered the job (Something I've done on a couple of occasions). Of course, it's easy to say, and applying takes time that could be spent sleeping/eating chocolate/indulging in cheerfulness but then at least you won't look back and wonder "what if"....Both sound great jobs btw.

Hello Staines, nice to see you, sorry to hear you're also suffering on the sleep deprivation front, you'll find lots of empathy here! Do you get into London much? Would be great to arrange another meetup - maybe RFH again?

Veggie, totally with you on the popping in lark, it isn't for me either, I was brought up in a household where you made arrangements first. Is there a way of suggesting that you could text first and see if they get the hint?

Have more to write but will come back later, there is silence from the cot and I need to make the most and lie down!

Veggiemummy · 22/06/2009 14:22

Trace go for it! I'm biased because my background is special school nursing and community but I would say go for it. School nursing is a lot less pay because it's pro rata and you only get paid for 38 weeks of the year, spread evenly over the year but I used to top up by working a couple of extra shifts during holidays. They will probably pay you to do the school nursing course too.

DS2 graduated from a comando crawl to a full proper crawl this morning. He is so happy about it, and DH was home to see. DS1 isn't so impressed as he now keeps making a B line for whatever he is doing and then tries to eat his toys/paper/fingers.

Veggiemummy · 22/06/2009 16:01

Also Trace a tip I got from the no cry discipline solution was the count. Count to 10 and if she hasn't at least started doing whatever it is you have asked by the time you get to ten she loses something. Make it small like a book at bedtime, that one really works for DS1 still after a year of losing stories at bedtime a couple of times a month he still seems to live in fear of a bedtime without a story. The most I get to these days is six and that's usually if he is really testing the boundaries. By the way I found the no cry discipline solution quite helpful.

JollyBear · 22/06/2009 16:11

Hello everyone,

Crawling and talking babies, wow! DD can sit up on her own now but hates rolling over and spending time on her tummy. JJ I recognise that whinge noise. It sounds like DD is saying muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum when she does it.

verso Congrats on the job . Re recipe books,. DH loves Real Fast Food by Nigel Slater, it's v man friendly.

spot DD started waking at 4/5am too. She doesn't cry, just excitedly stamps her feet onto the mattress and squeals. I must confess put my earplugs in . She goes back to sleep and wakes up at a more civilised time . She didn't do it last night so maybe she's getting the message.

ladyT We have the housework argument lots. If we ever have a boy I am determined to bring him up knowing how to wash and iron.

Re the veg question. I'm veggie, DH isn't. I'm happy to give DD meat sometimes but I can't handle the idea of fish. DH is going to have to sort that out. I blame pilchard (sp?) sandwiches at school .

trace I'd apply for the job. Chances are that you'll feel the same way about your old job if you went back.

News here: DD had a triangular poo! . She has really taken to weaning and has dropped her afternoon bottle. Thing is, she's now only on 3 bottles a day and not drinking all of it, so I'm bothered she's not eating enough. She's obviously eating some of her food and not just dropping it all on the floor as her poo has changed. I'm wittering now, I just need reassurance I think!

jumpjockey · 22/06/2009 17:49

It's so interesting to see how they develop different skills at different times. DD can't sit up or crawl at all but loves being on her tummy and rolling about.

trace another vote for "you might as well try" here! Got one of those emails that says "If you don't hear from us assume you've been unsuccessful" but cos I know the chap who'll be managing, at least I can get him to let me know one way or the other re interviews, I hate this being left hanging on thing...!

JB I think our next thread definitely needs the word triangular in the title! DH was very excited when dd had her first 'real crap' yuk (I think he meant as opposed to runny milk poo) after eating lots of sweet potato, sweetcorn and broc on Saturday. Such a cliche, obsessing about the contents of our babies' nappies!

Veggiemummy · 22/06/2009 18:29

JJ if DH ever changed the boys nappies and there was a poo he would always bring it to me for inspection, like the personal doctor to the last Emperor in the movie, DH would say in his best Chinese accent, more 'Tofu less meat!' I'm obsessed with checking the colours good and the little curdy bits are in it.

Trace I forgot to add as long as you go back to the NHS you can pay your Mat leave back anywhere, so the job you are going for would qualify for that.

Good luck on your job JJ, I know your not into the part time thing but I think you will enjoy the extra time with madam and it is amazing what you can live without in order to save a bit of money.

Whose DH is writing the book on the class system and the black plague, that sounds really interesting, I love that sort of thing. I'm interested in big events and their impacts on a countries whole social and economic direction. Australia suffered big loses of fit strong young men during the world wars and it had a huge effect on the population and led to encouraging immigration so changed the whole ethnic mix of our country and on an individual level changed the course of families histories. Sorry I'm gibbering but I really do find it interesting.

sybilfaulty · 22/06/2009 19:48

Am I the only person whose baby is still milk only? He is a total boob man and moves food round his mouth but won't swallow.

No news here but am lurking and thinking of you all very much XXXX