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March 09 - there is no snooze button on a baby that needs milk.....!

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meep · 10/06/2009 12:47

over here ladies

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kanga5 · 25/06/2009 12:53

thank you everyone for your kind wishes.

as far as not posting for ages, i have been busy as well, but i was also fearing putting pen to paper so to speak, as it is so difficult to accept it. My dad was one of the two most important men in my life, and dads love their daughters unconditionally, don't they! i feel for my mum though, how can we possibly understand 45 or so years ripped apart so suddenly?

Anyway on to other preoccupations: entertaining baby??? well mine have to look after themselves a bit....though LO is noticeably happier with a bit of attention from me. I often put her in the kitchen while i do things and she just appears to enjoy looking at me pottering around. The others can be called upon for a bit or rocking or a chat, and it was so funny yesterday to see 2 yo dd1 and 2 month old dd2 giggling at each other.

I do worry sometimes that i can't give enough of me to each, but on the otherhand they can learn alot from each other, mostly good stuff hopefully...I have to laugh at some of the playground stuff the boys bring home!!!

my dh seems happier to interact with them once they are 2 years old and he can have a reasonable conversation...he can take all 3 boys out for a few hours which gives me a break. But mention taking the girls??? NO WAY MATE!!!

i think children are happiest with a constant caregiver and a routine, and lots of love from parents.

xxx

Slickbird · 25/06/2009 13:13

Yip, had the same; 'that doesn't count as interaction' chat with DH. I think it is a MAN THING that when babies are, er, babies, they are just not as interested as when they get a bit older. My DH is great and is very hands on, cooks, cleans, baths kids, changes nappies etc etc but I'm afraid that I'm in the, "But why shouldn't he?" camp. I have had to give a gentle nudge to get him to talk to HB but there's no doubt that he loves them all or anything and would probably be quite hurt at the suggestion that he's not paid enough interest on times - at least when they are very young. Anyway, there it is.

Laumiere I can totally sympathise as I have thrown that at DH before too; "It's not the same as having them at the weekend, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE HAVING THEM DAY IN DAY OUT, WEEK AFTER WEEK...." rant rant rant. But anyway, we decided that we both have it tough so am just leaving it at that.

It's not easy tho is it?

Slickbird · 25/06/2009 13:17

PS - Corgi Here's hoping it's a pattern set to continue!

Am starting to get fed-up of the night time wakenings now. Really over it. DD2 has been screaming the house down too for one reason or another so I got bugger all sleep last night. I have baby-rice at the ready to ply HB in a couple of weeks time. (And to pelt at screaming DD2)

Slickbird · 25/06/2009 13:24

PPS - Just realised that Happy Boab is 16 weeks on Tuesday! I though he was about 14wks. Talk about time whizzing by. I really had lost track. He'll be 16 years old, slamming doors and telling me he hates me at this rate....

meep · 25/06/2009 13:43

My dh likes to watch sport with his girls - normally Rosie is propped up on his knees facing him so he she does get some interaction - dd1 just likes squealing with daddy when a goal/try is scored!

He is great with them - sometimes needs a prod but he's more than happy to do nappies - gets up in the night - does the majority of dd1 bath & bedtimes etc.

But I agree with kanga that dh/dp's don't really get that excited about the whole thing until there is crawling/walking/talking etc. I reckon they feel a bit left out of the baby stage when the baby and mum are so focussed on each other.

law your posty is so true about the wobbly bottom lip. Rosie really searches me out for some grinning, giggling and eye contact.

kanga we too have giggling between nearly 2yo dd1 and 13wo dd2 - they were even giggling in the back of the car this morning - sooooo cute!

slick I forget how old Rosie is - with dd1 I knew her weight/age/last poo down to the nano-second!

corgi hooray for Rhys - fingers crossed it continues and that you can just relax and enjoy.

laumiere I also had a drunk dh last night (work do) - and he actually thought he could do Rosie's late feed - I think not and was actually annoyed that I had stayed up to feed her

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grinningbee · 25/06/2009 14:19

Hmmmm so, should A be giggling by now? I see from a lot of messages that other babies are.

She chatters, smiles and makes noises, but no actual giggles as yet. I have tried all sorts from blowing raspberries on her hands/feet/tummy to pulling faces and laughing in front of her, singing, you name it.

I feel deprived!

On a food note, I feel like a have just balanced out the day so far.

Started with fruit n fibre, and just had a salad. Now, does that make up for the packet of choc chip cookies I ate mid morning... [piggy emoticon]

meep · 25/06/2009 14:36

Rosie's is a sort of chuckle, normally when tickled under her cheeks, or when she is happy and wants my attention.

Dd1 was a late giggler but is making up for it now!

[i wish I had some choc chip cookies emoticon]

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dinny · 25/06/2009 14:37

hello, all

only just spied this thread!

re giggles - dd2 makes you work hard for them! she smiles all the time but giggles very occasionally.... ds was (and is) a total giggler and dd1 like her little sister!

megzyboo · 25/06/2009 15:37

Hello all,
I posted on this forum months ago when pregnant. Been trying to keep up here and there but never got round to posting again, hope it's OK if I join back in again. I don't know any other mums and it would be nice to chat and see how other babies around Juno's age are getting on.

Re sleeping - my little one goes down for half an hour early morning and an hour or so in the afternoon. She sleeps more if I'm out and she's in the buggy or car seat though.

my other half does things with the little one but can't seem to do anything with her without me apart from watching the telly (which doesn't count in my book). how does he think I manage all day? if he's changing her he needs someone to get a nappy bag or of hes getting the bottle he needs someone to hold her. He never misses a bath time though which is sweet. he also had a works night the other night and came in so drunk he peed in the car seat in the buggy in the hall!! must have thought it was a urinal! not impressed! felt a little better after I poured it over him but hes still slightly in the bad books for that one.

sorry I seem to have rambled rather a lot.

just one last thing - I want giggles here too.

laumiere · 25/06/2009 15:40

Thanks for the reality check ladies! Normally we do much the same slick and try not to outdo each other, but sometimes I'm not that reasonable!

lolianja · 25/06/2009 15:54

laumiere - thank you so much for the info re: the Revelo, it looks great!

Jim is reacting badly to the warmer weather, he looks permanently irritable and flustered and he's not pooing as much as he should be. His routine's up the spout a-bloody-gain and I'm already worrying about the impending need to wean him, which is making me a little sad because I wanted to breastfeed him initially for about a year. That said, I have way too much on my plate at the moment to get fixated upon that, so I'm trying to remain positive.

On the plus side, I did feel something today which felt very much like a kick!

Slickbird · 25/06/2009 17:19

loli A kick...or two?

Welcome Megzy I can't believe you poured it over him But I'm sure I'd have been tempted to do the same!

Meep No, fair play to you, I wouldn't have a drunk DH doing the nightshift either.

For those of you that are bottle feeding at night - do you all get up and go to kitchen to make up bottle etc? We are too lazy so what I do is part make up a couple of bottles (usually only use the one tho') then measure out the SMA into the container thingy with the separate compartments (Saves me miscounting when half-asleep) and then top up a flask with boiled water and do it all at the bed-side! Lazy? Me? Oh, whenever I can get away with it!

mdavza · 25/06/2009 17:37

grinning I try to spend some time after each feed playing with him, and leave him to play on his own also. Sometimes I sit him on my lap and we read the paper, he gets very exicted at the pictures!

Dh has warmed up a lot to lo since we started cycling together, at the beginning he was really almost too scared to hold him. he's getting better, though. But settling for naps/sleep and a crying baby are still my exclusive departments, I say, a bit grumblingly. He does the DF, though!

Slick Our relationship is much the same, loads of talks and some fights and make-ups. He's a really, really lovely man!

Getting some giggles from LB, not a lot, but every now and again, I have a special monkey sound which he loves, and my nieces puts his feet in his mouth and then he giggles. But not too often, he's a serious chap.
I'm noticing more and more how much aware he's becoming of his surroundings. in the evening i used to pop him in his cot (after the routine), switch off the light and walk out. Now he looks up at me as I leave and gives a little cry, and in the mornings he knows where I'll appear over him. He's just figured out how to almost roll onto his side and he kicks like crazy. And have I mentiooned eating? he GOBBLES up his rice cereal, loves it.

I've been feeling a bit low the past few days, I guess I'm finding motherhood, well, harder than I thought. Or maybe that it'd be more enjoyable all around. Maybe I'm just disaapointed that i haven't turned into the earth mother I thought I would be, I sometimes really miss my old life! (hope it's ok to say this...) And at what stage does one feel confident with your new baby?!

jollyjoanne · 25/06/2009 18:54

Madavza I feel a bit like that too, I love being a mum but I really miss there being other people to talk to about stuff other than babies - is that wrong?

Although DH is not impressed by Mae not entertaining him in the evening he does love her a lot and is good for nappy changing and winding and getting her to sleep. But I am not sure he would cope if they were home together all day.

Mae does giggle but it doesn't sound like a grown up giggle, it is just a funny noise. She now has a range of other sound effects including raspbery blowing and chatty noises some of which sound happier than others.

Loli ooh little kicks already how cute.

laumiere · 25/06/2009 19:15

mdavza and jolly, nope, it's perfectly normal and doesn't go away with your second! The best things I found were book clubs or coffee mornings, just to talk to other people.

meep · 25/06/2009 19:44

mdavza I think each stage marks another coinfidence crisis , only joking, it really does get easier, especially when you get your sleep back and you can communicate with them better.

I have to admit that with dd1 I started to feel better once I went back to work (and felt so guilty as a result) - but it was good to have time on my own and really made me appreciate the time I had with dd1 (I was out that door so fast to go and collect her at the end of each day!). I also really appreciated my "baby" friends as I could indulge in some full on baby/toddler chat which I wouldn't do with my childless friends!

I no longer miss my old life - the only time I hanker after it is when it is sunny and I wish I was sitting in a beer garden with a bottle glass of wine in front of me and a cigarette - haven't smoked since getting pregnant with dd1, but I strangely miss it on suny days!

I can honestly say that my dd's have made my life so full of new things and I now love it!

Have to tell you all this - had a real MN moment in teh park this afternoon. It was 5.40pm and as a treat we stopped at a wee park on our way home. Dd1 is obsessed with slides. There was another Mum there with a toddler and baby. Dd1 was running around and Rosie was in the sling. I had forgotten her sun hat but thought, it's late in the day and we're not here for long. So I was using my hand to shade her.

This other Mum said "did you know that they are not protected from the sun until they are 4mo" and looked at me as if I was a piece of sh*t - honestly. Her toddler had a cagoule on with the hood up and her baby was wrapped up in a big sheet thing.

I just felt so stupid and small and scurried off.

I will NEVER FORGET HER HAT AGAIN [GRIN]

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Wheelybug · 25/06/2009 20:45

Ah yes but meep her children will have rickets before they are 5 (). Some sun is good for them remember (at such moments...) !!

Mdavza - perfectly normal. Your life has changed so much ! Try and get out as much as you can and say yes to anything legal. I found filling my time made me feel better. I still do it tbh which is the only way I am happy being a SAHM.

Elsy · 25/06/2009 21:47

Mdavza Don't worry. I felt exactly the same with DD1 and it did take me a while to feel really comfortable with her - until she was a toddler really and started talking. Now with DD2 I'm feeling the same thing again. I find it so frustrating not knowing what babies want! I'm also feeling the monotony this week. DH is out tonight and tomorrow night, so I'm feeling a bit sorry for myself stuck in the house for the forseeable future. It's my birthday next week though, so hopefully I'll get an evening off (even though I'll be checking my phone every 10 minutes!).

Put DD2 in the bouncer this week. Thought she was a bit young for it at 3 months, but actually she had no problem supporting her (huge) head and absolutely loved it. Obviously she can't bounce herself yet, but DD1 bounced her up and down and she laughed and laughed.

Slickbird · 25/06/2009 22:54

Mdavza God yes. Am going through a real, I CANNOT BE ARSED phase!! Esp when I look around at the tidying and cleaning I did half an hour ago only to find it all needs done again. If ever there was an inscentive to get back to work that is it!! I really miss my old job and my colleagues and the worst of it is am not going back as no point - would have to put two wee ones in child care - so this really is me for a long while yet and I can tell you, there have been some pretty low moments at that realisation! It is hard tho because there's a huge part (I guess the biggest or I wouldn't do it) that is really glad I am able to stay off with them when they are so little as I know with DD1 how fast it goes. But financially it is a struggle and will no doubt be a nightmare when my mat allowance runs out in Nov. Will have to go get part time job on top of what I already do at home and that in itself makes me want to shoot myself!

Getting the breaks when you can is what is crucial and what keeps you going. Take what help you can get. IMHO.

Elsy I too put HB in his door-way bouncer and he seemed pretty chuffed with it. DD2 also thought is was a scream and tried to 'help' him bounce. I had to try and er, contain her enthusiasm. I could tell she wanted a go...

Meep And did you tell her;

'Did you know that busy-bodies round here get a punch in their coupon for cheek??'

Slickbird · 25/06/2009 22:57

Mdavza Sorry, should also point out that it does get easier and they do bring you so much happiness and joy it's hard to quantify. Re-read my post and it sounded all a bit negative. It can't be that bad or we would have done it three times!

meep · 26/06/2009 07:46

thanks wheely & slick - the rubbish thing is that she was right . And slick she was lucky she said it to me - we were in a park in a pretty rough area where coupon punches may not be out of the norm!

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Slickbird · 26/06/2009 09:03

Och, but even if the bairn should have had a sunhat, fifteen mins or whatever with your hand shading her is going to do NO harm whatsoever. If it were the midday sun and SCORCHIO then that'd maybe be different, but it certainly wasn't that hot out this way yesterday so presuming wasn't that different a few miles east? I wouldn't give yourself such a hard time.

Slickbird · 26/06/2009 09:18

OMG! Michael Jackson is dead! Am quite surprised. My DH said, "What'd he die of? Logic?"

Wheelybug · 26/06/2009 10:24

Aw meep don't be hard on yourself. She'd have been fine. (whats a 'coupon', oh strange scottish folk ? )

Have just spotted a due in March 2010 thread - wowee ! That was us a year ago. Brings a tear to my eye. Sob.

Slick - Yes, heard that about Jacko. TBH though - whilst a shock, it would have kind of been wrong for him to live to a ripe old age and die peacefully in his sleep when no one remembered him. A surprise 'going out' is more 'him' if that doesn't sound too insensitive.

Right, have realised we have nothing in the cupboards, have been too lazy to do an internet food shop on line, dd1 has a playdate after nursery so I am goimng to have to brave Tesco Extra. Wish me luck. Am going to feed L and then make a dash for it and hope she is happy !!

Slickbird · 26/06/2009 10:33

Wheely Lol! Coupon is your face. Not sure why, but yes, I suppose we do have a few oddities!

Without jumping on any Jacko bandwagon, I just feel sad the way his life turned out. He was such a lovely talented, beautiful wee boy and to see the way he changed was just a real shame IMO. I think he never surpassed the music he made in the 70s and 80's anyway. But yes, must have been a helluva strain being him, so hardly surprising he died of a heart attack.

Nothing to report here () Just glad it's Friday. My body still crippled with all the lifting, hands still got that condition and back still out. Am always glad to get to end of the week as DH can do some of the lifting!!

Hope all well. Happy Friday!