October 08 - More chit chat!

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10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz - Induction due to rhesus sensitivity, G&A.
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs - Just beat induction for PE!
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz - Fast and furious hospital birth.
22nd Sept (Due 10th Oct) - Lozza70 - Boy - Sander Gene - 7lbs 5oz - Em C-Sec due to raised BP and high ALTs from liver.
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz - 36hr labour, ventouse and stitches.
3rd Oct (Due 6th Oct) - Bethoo - Girl - Maia - 7lbs -
3rd Oct (Due 26th Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - Rebecca Jill Erzsebet - 8lbs 10.5oz - Homebirth with paramedics due to meconium.
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz -
5th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - hedgepig - Boy - Oliver - 6lbs 3oz -
5th Oct (Due 29th Sept Oct) - CherryChoc - Boy - Ryan - 6lbs 11oz - 3 day labour with natural birth in hospital
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz -
9th Oct (Due 17th) - Marthasmama - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz - 4 day induction with 1 hour established labour!
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz - Homebirth.
13th Oct (Due 15th Oct) - mum2jakeyroo/jrsqueak - Boy - Joshua - 7lbs 2oz - Delivered in car by dh!
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz -
17th Oct (Due 27th Oct) - Rhian82 - Boy - - - Episiotomy and ventouse.
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz - Home water birth with gas and air.
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz -
28th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - RachieW - Boy - Jack - 7lbs 4oz - hospital birth, epidural, stitches, 24hrs start to finish
28th Oct (Due 31st Oct) - Jojay - Boy - Edward Alexander - 7lbs 7oz - hospital birth - gas and air, 2nd degree tear. 7 hrs start to finish.
1st Nov (Due 22nd Oct) - SmudgeyDoodle - Girl - - 8lbs 2oz - Hospital water birth.
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz -
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz - Em C-Sec. Back to back and knotted cord around neck. 24 hours of labour first though, and don't you forget it!

Myjob. I am sending you a big kiss. |Try to remmeber that your poor boy probably doesnt suffer from anything other than tiredness. It is so hard for you though.

Nice bra CSWS. Are you going to show your DH

William has gone back to hourly waking. I feel like shit again. However he now has two teeth so hopefully the worst has past for now. We have finally got our paed dietitian appointment. Next week! I am supposed to keep a 5 day food diary. Not bad when I only have 4 days to do it in!

Hope all the poorly babies get better soon. CP caused by bad diet. In the words of Catherine Tate; What a load of old shit.

myjob i hope the HV can help you, it sounds so upsetting, poor little man.

quite upsetting hearing about you too loulou

sorry posted prematurely!

meant to finish with

... can totally understand you getting emotional when your little boy is so uncomfortable

ronshar - maybe they thought that you'd be able to remember what he/you ate yesterday. They obviously don't know about what happens to brains post-natally!

Bugger. Am not a fan of 5.30am starts.

I'm up too... since 6, though. and cooking sweet potatoes. How long do they sit in the oven before they are ready to be mashed up for Q? Never cooked a potato on my own before. I have boiled though for mashing - takes about 20 minutes. I assume it's longer in the oven?

Sorry didn't post - it's been a bit manic here. Feeling better. DH has a job for next year now and I think that's taking his stress away.

sorry to hear about Joe loulou
Myjob I hope DS is ok this morning? for you.
nice bra csws. I don't think they make those in my size

Morning ladies,

Loulou ? How is Joe this morning? It sounds absolutely awful for him and you.

Myjob ? You?re having a tough time too, aren?t you? Was ds ok for the rest of the night?

Star ? Great news about your dh?s job. Not that it excuses him taking things out on you at all, but I wonder whether he was feeling the pressure of needing to contribute to the family and not having a job sorted.

MM- We?ve been to Leon in Spitalfields a few times, but not for a while now. The food is nice but feels really healthy too. We watched Little Miss Sunshine the other week. It always cheers me up. I was going to call ds Olive if he?d been a girl.

Nice bra CSWS. Is it comfy? I?m desperately looking for a nursing bra that gives me a bit of support with my work clothes. Those Bravado ones are really comfortable, but I tried on some work tops and my bust looks really droopy in them.

Aubergenie - You can get underwire nursing bras by Anita. I'm a J cup some they are too small for me.

Brilliant MM. Thank you!

Hope the scones cheer you and ds up Myjob!

Thanks guys, DS1 slept much better last night only waking at 2.30 for more calpol/cream/hug/story/water - finally wen toff 2 hours later but is much brighter today. Now has sopts i nhis throat so eating/drinking v.v.v. painful - managed a tiny bit of soup but i have been pushing water as i don't want him to end up in hosp....i think he's starting to get better though

CSWS - sorry that joe's hours of sleep never got to you - he only managed 11 hours last night

MM - J cup - blimey, i feel very inadequate

Myjob - sorry to hear ds' night terrors are so bad. How long are you keeping him awake for when you wake him? He must be fully awake for at least 15 mins to break the cycle. Any less and the cycle does change iyswim...If he is having another terror within 30-40mins of you putting him back to bed, keep him awake for longer that first time (ie about 30 mins). If he has another terror about an hour after putting him back to bed, you need to wake him 15mins before that one is due as well. If terrors are really prevalent (ie several a night) you may find you have to wake him 3/4/5 times a night for a week to break the cycle. As DS and N are sharing a room i would suggest taking him downstairs and reading with him (he has to be talking etc to amke sure he's awake properly) Its treatable by this method in most cases i think. I am back at work on Monday (have i said that already ) so i can email you some stuff from there if you want it...good luck hth

Sorry Myjob - mistyped there - should be fully awake for at least 5-15mins and awake longer (ie up to 30 mins) hope that makes sense

I think its normal to wet during deep sleep. Usually you don't wet during dream (rem) sleep as your body releases a muscle paralyser to stop you walking/hitting/jumping/screaming etc in response to your dream. Hence why in running dreams you never get anywhere and you can't call out in dreams - you only call out after you have woken and the dream is over! However, in night terrors, dreams occur in deep sleep where, despite the name, your muscles are not paralysed. This is why ds is sitting up/thrashing around/crying out. It is near impossible to wake him in deep sleep (nor should you), as the name suggests is where you are deeply asleep - usually v.hard to wake someone in deep sleep but possible to wee as the muscles are not paralysed.... I suspect it was the adrenlaine in the night terror that made him wet but fortunatelly, he will not remember the night terror at all (one blessing of them)....if he remembers anything in the morning it would be a nightmare (normal scary dream in rem sleep)not a night terror - does that make sense???

Also i didn't mean keep him awake after the terror, i meant wake him 15 mins before and keep him awake for at least 5 mins but you may need to keep him awake for up to 15 mins to ensure that another one doesn't happen straight after. I suspect that if he wasn't fully awake, the cycle was not broken so the night terror jsut happened in its usual place iyswim. By all means leep him awake for a while after the terror to prevent a second one if you think it will help but i would go for the waking before to start with again to see if the cycle can be broken.

myjob i think that sounds like a fantastic way to test the waters if you can do it

Sorry things are so tough at the moment myjob....its hard when one is struggling but when its both fo them, its really hard to split yourself in two iyswim...when will dh be home??

BTW i like the idea of volunteering for a while as it will also give N a chance to try out being minded by someone else and will also give you a chance to do something for yourself...

Myjob - I have always been amazed that you manage to sort both your babies out for bed, every night on your own without going mad! I found it really tough to juggle and I only did it for 10 weeks. It will get easier again, this is only temporary and that is something to hang on to when it gets really bad. for you, it;s so hard when nothing is going your way. The volunteering sounds like a really good idea. It will really help your application to have a good understanding of the job. I have a fb friend who is a midwife and she loves her job. She thinks she is privileged to be doing her job and that makes me think it have to do it!

Loulou - Don't be jealous of my massive norks! As I am sure CSWS will agree they are more of a curse than a blessing!