Dec 08- Must keep chocolate & cheerfulness near, teething time is nearly here!

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Right.... back to post the link now!

Cripes, just got DD1 up and there is no poo in her night time nappy. This means that for the first time since starting TT a poo is due and we have no idea if she knows what to watch out for. I better get to the pool quick and leave DH to it!

Sorry for your bad night Effie. Is Ds1 ill?

How exciting about the rolling Zoe. They are so grown up!

morning all!

good work LadyT, you jammy blighter clever thing. Re spending - when I won £80 on Amberley House, chosen purely because jockey was in my college colours, first thing I bought was a sink plunger in my defence the hardware shop was on the way back from the bookies and we really needed one...!

dd was indeed as expected a BFP (big fat pain) last night - up at 12 for a half hour legs in the air noisy wriggling sesh at the end of which she decided she was hungry but wouldn't feed lying down as normal, had to sit up with her which meant when she woke at 2 for some more i was still trying to get back to sleep, then up again at 4 and woulnd't shut up so dh brought her downtairs so i could get some sleep. hungry again at 5 then 7 attached to nipple and woulnd't be taken off at all.

would it be really bad for us all to drug our babies just once for a proper night's sleep?!

the thought has crossed my mind several times, JJ. I can't believe how smug I used to be before I had TT - when parents complained about being tired, I used to think "well, you shouldn't have kids if you're going to worry about being tired". heheh - karma cometh. Sorry about all the bad nights, we had a pretty ropey one too.
T is sucking on a soft toy now - seems crazy how all his feeding stuff is sterilised and then he stuffs something that's been on the floor in his mouth. .
Must go make coffee, back later.

Morning all,

DS up 3 times last night and went back down fairly easily each time, so its bearable. But DH woke me at 6.30am (both DC's fast asleep) to ask me if I fancied a bit So I then went on a rant about how selfish he was waking me and he said I was selfish because "he has needs and I don't give a sh*t about them" Quite frankly at that time of the day no I don't care about his needs.

He has gone to work in a strop, and can stay there all day for me. I hate being woken for anything and he knows this. I can't imagine for a second he actually thought I'd agree to it Anyway I'm waffling....

ladyt congrats on the GN you clever thing!

arti DD really struggled to get the no.2 in her potty. Wee's she nailed in a day but we had a stessful week with the other. Plus I second going cold turkey DD went straight into knickers. Its hard at first with all the washing but every time we tried her in the training pants she just wee'd in them because they are more like a nappy

Hello all,
Been away for the week to a relative's funeral. I've been reading on my iphone but too lazy to post as it's too hard to write anything long!
I had loads to say and now I have forgotten lots of it.
Arguments with DH/DPs, me and DH managed to have a big one yesterday. We were both tired from traipsing all over the country and he got angry because I wouldn't let him cycle on some not totally simple off-road tracks with DS in the trailer. He basically implied that i am getting boring, to which I got really angry and upset. It was a bit below the belt in my opinion as surely all women worry a bit that they are going to change and become boring when they have a baby. But we have made up now.
ros i agree with the others re your DH being a bit of an idiot doing the marathon this year of all years. But at least it's nearly here now, so good luck to him! And make sure he gives you some time off afterwards in exchange.
Lots of sleep chat while I have been gone. I tend to not apply any theories, and just feed DS when he wakes up, as he is always adamant. I have never actually gone to him and got him to sleep without feeding him. He does sometimes wake up though and I ignore him unless he sounds insistent. But he only wakes up usually once a night so I am very lucky. (It was not at all but he's stopped doing that now!) He has not adapted to the time change yet though! Still going to sleep at 8-9pm instead of 7 the little tinker. Hopefully now we are back he will get back into normal routine.
daisy your DH is a twunt! How mean is that to wake you up for "his needs". I would have rolled over and told him to have a w&^%. But then my DH would never do that as i think he prefers sleep to action, esp at 630 in the morning.
spot ha ha and you saying people shouldn't moan about being tired if they chose to be parents! That's the sort of thing I would've said too!
well done ladyt on the horses. The only time I won a bet on the grand national, I had a fight with my then boyfriend, got totally drunk to console myself and lost my wallet with the ticket in it. Sigh.
right had better go as have friends round in half an hour and have just been for run so need to have a shower!

SL sorry about your relative - and about the arguments - you're quite right that if not boring, I reckon we've become more cautious about some things - and the safety of your baby is surely the uppermost of all of them. Glad you've made up.

daisy that's a bit mean! Tell him if he wines and dines you there might be a bit more success! (we've still not managed successfully , I do wonder if DH is going to explode but he said he's not too bothered at the moment, phew...)

spot re sterlising, well none of us boil washes our nipples or hands so I doubt it will do T any harm. I'm very much a believer in the argument that a bit of normal household dirt never hurt anyone - if something falls on a dog poo then perhaps yes, give it a wash, but otherwise they need to build up their immunity somehow.

Well I'm feeling a bit more chipper, just had a 1.5hr nap with dd who was sooo knackered she didn't know what to do with herself, managed to feed her to sleep and was instructed by DH to stay with her so now catching up a bit. In fact she went off at about 12.30 and is still asleep so goodness knows when she'll wake. My first time back at choir this evening so DH has 2 (v small ) bottles of EBM and is in charge of bedtime. Fingers crossed

Question - we're having DD's godfather and his family over for Easter, the ones who had us for Christmas (bless them all!) and there are two adults and kids of 8, 5 and 2.5. We're doing lamb and veggies etc, but what would be a suitable starter (can't do smoked salmon as godfather is allergic to fish). The kids are fairly good at eating what they're given, but needs to be something easy that we can make between church and lunch. In all we're 5 adults and 2 FTE kids . Have never cooked for kids before blimey that's bad isn't it? To have reached the age of 32 25 and never cooked for nippers.

Hooray Arti and glad you are enjoying reading ZJ. It is was when they do little movements away from us, imagine what it will be like when they leave home.

I think we nearly would have had a sleep through here except ds1 woke at 4am with bad dream and came wailing into our room. Ds2 woke and wanted a little sip
but easily went back to bed til 6am when he had a bigger drink.

Oh jealous of manhattens. I used to love grey goose vodka martinis yum yum yum. Not sure where in Derby I could get one. I used to have a little set of glasses toothpicks and shaker to make my own vodka martinis at parties.

What a lovely day, better get ready we need to be out the door for dh's race very soon.

I actually meant to post this in the morning but I didn't go off. We have had a nice day so shall use this as a bookmark and now read back on everyones day. DU ran a good race but we are all a bit tired. Ds1 has talked nonstop all day and finding it exhausting.

Kayz happy K

Have no idea what I meant to write there Kayz but did you hear the man u v villa result.

SL your DH will probably think I'm a fuddy duddy too but if you ask any paeds physio they will tell you that cycling esp on rough tracks with a baby under 6 months in a trailer can cause damage to their necks. We rode with ds1 when he was about 5 months but mainly on soft or paved tracks. It's best if they are able to sit up as they have the muscles to handle the jolts.

We are doing a little fun run with the boys in a couple of weeks. We will run with the chariot and ds1 will get out and runs when he wants to. We bought him some little trainers today and he has been running backwards and forwards up and down our back garden in them...he's so cute.

Oh and Spot I stopped sterilising stuff for ds1 when I found him chewing on the wheels of his pushchair at 6.5 months!

Zoe - congratulations on the rolling! You're entering the hilarious phase of leaving the room and coming back to find that your child is not where you left them!

arti - well done on your very productive and fun dh-less day

jj - I often do egg mayonnaise for a quick easy starter. You could boil your eggs before church then when you get back just halve them, scoop out the yolk and mix it with mayo, and then put a dollop of mixture back into each half egg and sprinkle a little paprika on them. Lucy wolfs those down in seconds! you could do a little salad with it and arranging anything in a smiley face usually ensures it gets eaten by even the fussiest small person (half cherry tomatoes for eyes and nose, half slice cucumber mouth, lettuce hair...). However I don't excel in the kitchen department so I'm sure someone else has a more exciting suggestion!

daisy - at your dh. I read your post to my dh and he said "I think he needs a slap"!!! Needs?!!! What about your need for sleep?!! outrageous.

Spot - I used to sterilize Lucy's dummy until I realised she was eating soil in the garden!

arti - Lucy used to do a morning nappy poo every day and i used to wonder how we would ever get her out of night time nappies when she pooed so regularly each morning. One evening I was at work so DH had put her to bed and when I got home he said "oh I kept her nappy off tonight" to which I obviously ranted a little about him having to clear up the mess blah blah blah, and guess what - she was clean and dry all night and we never put a nappy on her again - and she has never ever wet the bed! Her poo just changed to daytime! I think we were very lucky with her!

P has her 3rd jabs tomorrow . I'm finding them harder each time because i know her so much more intimately and I worry that she'll feel betrayed by me allowing someone to cause her pain. But then I remind myself that it's for her protection and that she'll only remember it while it lasts then she'll give me a gummy grin and we'll be back on track

Day 5 Operation Bottle - no thanks mummy!

Hope you have good nights...could some of your good sleepers send some baby telepathy to Phoebe please?!

trace tell your DH thanks for the advice, I'll be hanging round the door when he comes home from work and wallop him one Actually he has just rung and although he stopped short of an apology he was grovelling abit.

Loving the bottle updates DS has exactly 1oz everytime then laughs at me and spits it out! We will be going straight to a cup I think.

spot I do steralise DS's dummies. But I have to admit not often I usually just boil the kettle and give them a rinse But DD is forever sticking her fingers in his face and he puts them in his mouth which she finds hilarious but I dread to think where her hands have been at times, especially if she's wandered in from the garden.

JJ How about pate for a starter? Would the kids eat that? Easy enough just open the packet, bit of toast and salad and I usually add a dollop of some chutney or other, caramelised onion is a fave(like jam DD quite likes it).

Or soup? Bit boring but you could make it in advanc or buy one.

Gosh not exactly Delia Smith am I

Daisy: I am picturing a Tom & Jerry type scene where you whang him with the frying pan as he comes in through the door . Hope he has seen sense (6:30 forsooth!)

We have had a lazy day as DS1 has some kind of tummy bug, no D&V since this morning so hopefully he has got over whatever it was. He's going through a funny phase of being ill for a day or so, getting over it and then getting something else. He's never properly ill. I think he's picking up all sorts at playgroups and fighting it off, good for the immune system I suppose.

DS2 has been feeding all day, so I'm prepared for tonight... he has gone to sleep happily though (touch wood). Think I may get an early night to get some zzz in before he wakes.

JJ: what about a cheats starter like cold cuts - parma ham, nice ham, salami etc. - with some bread and olives? No preparation at all and the kids will prob eat the ham (or at least the bread).

SL: I don't think being concerned about your baby is boring at all! We are all programmed to do the mother bear thing at the moment. I grr and make a lunge for DH if I think he is handling DS2 wrong.

Hope you all enjoyed the sunshine - hope it continues tomorrow and we may see some of it!

spoke too soon - mutterings coming over the monitor...

Effie - hope they're just mutterings and have calmed down... and that the D&V is all done with.

trace at the magic nappy solution! You must have been over the moon!

well I got back at 7.45 (dd usually goes to sleep at about 7.30 now) and she was yelling... had taken one bottle of about 3oz at 6 but then fell asleep (having not napped since 3) and DH had to wake her up to get ready for bed, so she was stroppy - not unreasonably, I'd be cross too! Managed to calm her down with some mummy cuddles then he gave her the second bottle and did sleepy time. Hurrah! Finally went to sleep at about 8.30 so a bit out of sorts, but we'll see how the night is.

thanks for the starter suggestions, egg mayo sounds ideal for Easter! Might even try some coloured shells if I can remember how to do it from days gone by. And pate too in case they're not keen on that - the adults can hoover up later...

Daisy I told my DH about what your DH wanted at 6.30am he laughed and wants to know what planet is he on. DH worked out the best way to get some is to make sure I'm well rested so he will make sure I get heaps of sleep ins and when night waking become less about feeds and more about just needing settling he will do the lions share. He did that with ds1 and was rewarded for his efforts.

Oh and I'm bad too as I only ever scorch ds2's dummy except on the odd occasion that I find it under the cat then i either throw it away or Milton it.

I find that very reassuring, Veg .
I've just done something very stupid. A cup of boiling chamomile tea somehow jumped out of my hand as I was sitting on the sofa and I ended up scalding my arse. DP ordered me to sit in a freezing cold bath and I had to suffer the humiliation of having aqueous cream applied liberally to my burning buttocks. V sexy image as you can imagine. Fortunately not serious (I am writing this sitting down), just another one for the book of stupid-thing-spot-has done. It's running into several volumes now .
V busy social week ahead (more in laws and old friends of DP coming down), so will try and catch some zzzzzs tonight.
Am so in love with Mr T it hurts. What a soppy git I am.

Oh that has made me really fancy a chamomile tea Spot. Hope your bott bott is ok. Pop some zinc and castor oil on it or whatever nappy cream you use like sudocream.

Oh dear 1/2 a block of G&B cooking chocolate seems to have dissapeared, oh no make that a 3/4 block.

this is the third night in a row where i can't sleep even though everyone else is snoring away. i feel massively for those of you who have been doing this night after night after night. it is rubbish.

Oh dear WG . Is it anything specific or can you not drop off?

An unsettled night again here as well - DS2 finally settled at 9ish but then snacking from 12-7 - I brought him into bed with me and dozed between times. He's still in bed with DH while I'm up with DS1 (demanding breakfast so probably better ).

I'm assuming this is a growth spurt - at nearly 14 weeks? Or maybe a bug, he's a little hot and may have caught whatever DS1 has had.

very cheerful weekend.... feel awful... wasn't quite over my cold and now sore throat is back... not smart.
B has 3rd jabs today too trace
he is back on track with his sleeping thank goodness. FF top ups doing wonders.
steralizing - I-m slack, and use dishwasher or microwave steam things.... dh is very pro building immunity... they need to get the odd cold etc. my friend goes mad on steralizing, but the child will probably end up with menangitis or something one day (hopefully not, but you know what I mean)

Oh I know I will feel better for coffee, not a bad night but when he did wake he screamed, I'm sure he can hit F I need to see if Bisou needs a small monkey in any of Opera Australia's performances. Oh and poo at 6am, surely that's not right.

Morning,

WG You poor thing. I sometimes have nights like that or after DS2 wakes up I just can not get back to sleep. Apparently you should get out of bed and do something boring. It never seems to work for me though.

I hope you are all well.