Dec 08- Must keep chocolate & cheerfulness near, teething time is nearly here!

[pmk1]

Right.... back to post the link now!

That is so cute, PMK, clutching his passport in his bumbo!

We have had a lovely day. It was so hot though, I wasn't expecting it to be quite so warm. So I had a jumper and my coat and DS1 had his coat and his cosytoes on. So we got there and had to buy a bag to put all it in. Though I suppose it is better to take a coat and it be warm than to not take a coat and it be cold.

Ros there is a shop that sells jewellry stuff and I looked at it so I would remember the name and I can't now. Silly brain.

Hope you are all ok.

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. So cute PMK

Oh and just a tip, if your play with a nappy free baby, your gonna get pooed on.

Oh dear, just took T to get his passport piccies done and they've come back with him looking like a fat Russian gangster . How long do they have to have the passport for?
Glad you had a good day, Kayz .

Oh and Bisou says hello, she has been so busy she hasn't even sown any new nappies!!!

5 years! Oh please post them.

What a beautiful day!

We have been at the zoo all day and have had a fab day. DD loved it and kept insisting on seeing the meercats. DS was a very good boy in his pram all day. Although was a bit of a mare while I was quietly bf on a bench when suddenly I was surrounded by about 100 schoolkids screaming I'msure a few were hanging about trying to catch an eyeful!

I'm hoping all the fresh air will help him sleep better today

Had a lovely day at baby cinema with Turnip ? she did some celeb spotting at lunch, too (someone from busted and his lady, Emma (from MTV???) ? am sure she will confirm. And while dd was as sweet as pie during lunch, on the way back she kicked off in the park, so i sat on a parkbench and fed her ? looking out over north London i thought life doesn?t get much better than this. Then came home to find her in a shitfit to end all shitfits.
JJ - re: vinegary poos ? nope, no idea, but i think they are fine ours have tailed off now. Re: bedtime ? we also had meltdowno?clock and worried about bringing bedtime forward and depriving dh of daughter time/her waking up too early. In the end, we did it and it made no difference to her waking time ? so give it a go, is what i say.
spot - the sighs of non understanding sound v familiar ? madam has given us some Churchillian orations just after bathtime. However, it does sound to us as though the aliens have landed and are trying to communicate. Re: passport photos ? madam looks like quite a bruiser ? maybe a career as a nightclub bouncer or female rugby prop?

Oh nice day for the Zoo Daisy. I had a very productive gardening day. We now have peas and broadbeans straight into the ground to add to the cauliflower & brussel sprouts seedlings I put in over the weekend. I have put some runner beans and purple sprouting broccoli into seedling pots near the kitchen window. Also a question about seasons from a clueless Australian, are we in early or mid spring now????

veggie - early spring. v early - and be warned, british gardeners hold that the risk of frost is always present until June - my father never put out his bedding until then.

could someone link me to the meet up thread, pls? can't find it.

Sorry have been most neglectful of MN as have been playing with my new iPhone in my spare minutes. Haven't had time to catch up alas.

WG and I went to baby cinema today to watch Marley and Me. It wasn't much cop but L enjoyed it - cooing at the dog (although obv she had no idea what it was...)

We then had lunch and a nice Sleb spot. Matt Willis from Busted and Emma Griffith came into Giraffe where we were having lunch. I knew I knew them but couldn't place the faces (knew they c-list celebs). They started chatting because little Miss R was being adorable and flirting with them. Emma started chatting and she is 28 weeks pg (of course looked amazing, tanned, no baby weight etc etc) but she was lovely. I then asked her who she was as they were leaving as was driving me nuts!! I am so nosy...

Jump I put L down between 7pm and 7.30pm - then feed her regardless of whether she wakes at 10.30/11. Not really a "dream" feed because she always wakes fully but she goes back down no prob.

She then goes through til 6.30/7am most of the time. L often stirs/cries for a brief time at 5am as this is classic time that all people go into a lighter sleep - part of our circadian rythmns apparently. The sleep theory behind feeding at 10.30 is to try and remove the association with food at 5am-ish (which will arise if a baby is genuinely hungry by that time) and that 5am light sleep cycle as it can lead to a reinforced 5am wakening pattern that can last into toddlerhood. I do let L cry for up to 5 minutes at 5am - if she settles I know its not hunger just change in sleep cycle. If she doesn't I know it is hunger and I feed her - but always as little as possible. I know the dream feed doesn't work for everyone but has for my three I guess and we have never had the early waking problem.

PMK could you try doing a 7am to 7pm "day" and count 7pm onwards as night as sounds like B wants to be asleep then? I know you call it a nap - but babies have 12 hours "night" sleep (obviously with as many wakenings as occurs...). Just a thought - ignore me if makes no sense. When we do a 7pm bed I make sure L's last nap didn't go beyond 5pm.

x-posted with you WG!!!

Turnip DH and I saw the guy who played the Guardian journalist in the last Bourne film and he was also in a movie set in new York about an Irish family who move there after the death of a child. Anyway had recently seen both movies and then saw him getting off the little steam train in our local park with he son. DU said a very enthusiastic hi how you going? (in his broad Aussie accent) to him. Then after he had walks past he said "oh I can't remember his name? He's a friend of x's isnt he. He got such a shock when I told him who he was, he had thought he was someone local that he knew through our friends not a movie actor.

Turnip DH and I saw the guy who played the Guardian journalist in the last Bourne film and he was also in a movie set in new York about an Irish family who move there after the death of a child. Anyway had recently seen both movies and then saw him getting off the little steam train in our local park with he son. DU said a very enthusiastic hi how you going? (in his broad Aussie accent) to him. Then after he had walks past he said "oh I can't remember his name? He's a friend of x's isnt he. He got such a shock when I told him who he was, he had thought he was someone local that he knew through our friends not a movie actor.

Oops

OOh, Turnip and WG, get you with your sleb mates!
Did you go to Finchley cinema? Have never been to that one but might venture out as I realise am not making the most of having no other kids to look after and am slobbing at home eating chocolate, mainly...
Veg, I may get round to posting the pix of T on Fbook, but am currently pondering the ethics of putting up pictures of my firstborn for the express purpose of mocking him...
Better go, off to t'boozer .

JJ DS2 has just had his bath-it is usually around 6.30. Bed around 7.15pm. (DH is doing bath/stories tonight!) He often then sleeps through til about 7am. Last night he woke for a feed at about 4.30am though. That meant he went back to sleep til 8.15am. We all slept in-was a nightmare getting DD to school on time. Normally we can rely on DS1 waking us at some ungodly hour but with the clocks changing even he slept in.

My other two didn't sleep properly through the night til they were about 1, but would both be ready for bed by 7pm. At least you get an evening if the babies are in bed, even if they are waking during the night!

My DD's friend's 2 year old brother bit DS2 on the nose earlier. It was horrible seeing bite marks on his tiny nose. The mum hardly told her son off either.

Oh MM that is horrible, is that normal behaviour fie his friend. How is your DS after it???

Oh and Spot he made you look like you had eaten and fitball for several months so bugger him. Put the photos up I say. Mothers all over the world do it when their children turn 21 so why not now

well last time the boy came he bit DS1 which was bad enough but biting a 3 month old baby is not on at all. DS2's nose is very red. His mum is on her own during the week (partner lives abroad and comes home at weekends) so I think she is often too tired to discipline her kids. Was made worse by the fact I had not even invited them in on the way back from the park-they had barged in!

Evening all thanks for the info about sleeping, all very interesting. We just put DD down at about 7.30 and she went straight off without the half hour of horrible yelling (phew) though there was a threat of it, will see how it goes. Hadn't napped very well today so was probably well in need of it.

News! She did her first full on chuckle today - I was in the garden sweeping up some clippings and DH holding her, for some reason something really tickled her and of course we laughed back and on it went

PMK thanks for the fenugreek info, will give it a try.

veggie - this patient has several consultants on his case but saw DH for general medical care (over and above psych care). They had to call the police today so he's been removed from their list - standard practice apparently if things reach that bad a stage.

mm eeek about the biting! Poor little nose.

turnip that's really interesting about the rhythms, definitely don't fancy ending up with a 5am waking toddler

nolda you naughty page turner! madeira indeed... Have you seen this film tourneuse de pages it's very creepy!

Turnip Thanks - interesting - I guess I was resisting as DH would never see him (same prob as JJ and WG were saying I spose)I will try it... What about nappy changes? Do you do that as well with the feed at 10pm?
WG you said you were worried about bringing it forward but in the end it was fine - what time did you bring it forward to? He throws his toys at even a hint of a wet nappy so I'd have to change him i'd imagine?

majormoo, that is horrible. 2 is certainly old enough to be told not to bite. DS1 tried it once with a baby at his CMs, he was roundly told off and put into time out and has not done it since

We had a much better night last night, asleep 7:30, feed 10:30 and 3:30 then awake at about 7 but DS1 didn't wake till nearly 8 - bliss. DS2 has had his 12 week jabs so may be in for an unsettled night, but he's just gone down OK. I've started trying to put him down awake, I go in if he cries but he can chatter for a bit and then doze off. Have also purchased a snuggle blanket thingy as he likes chewing things and he has gone to sleep clutching it. If it's a success I must buy a spare!

Love the baby aussie pics

Hello.
Missed you last night - computer playing up!
I think I need to do the hands over ears and la la la to the sleep talk. P's best best ever was waking twice between 7 and 7, but she's well and truly reverted to her 2 hourly cycle and I'm wondering where I'm going wrong. Making me a little blue - probably the tiredness. Eyes filling up as I write
P saw the HV for her head circ check and it's grown 1cm in the last month, so it remains on the bottom of the chart but HV is happy that she's inherited my pea-head so isn't referring her to paeds. I asked her to look at her very dry skin while we were there as E45 and Diprobase aren't helping, so she gave us Double-base. Used it last night and this morning she was bright red with huge inflamed and very sore looking areas all over her back, shoulders and arms, so I went back to the HV and we've been given Epaderm instead and referred to eczema clinic. She thinks P is allergic to the preservative in the other stuff. Poor Lamb - her skin is red raw.
Was sure I had lots to say but my eyes have filled up and my brain has emptied.
Maybe it'll come back to me.
xxx

Turnip DH home and I read it to him - he is nodding in agreement with your theory - so why the hell didn't he tell me that!!!! Will let you know how it goes!
Also, I'm reading that book at the moment - Mum gave it to me as she said it is totally my life with the crazy dog! I've heard the movie is crap but still like to see it when I've finished the book! Where is it on at a baby cinema?

JJ X-posted - sounds like you are back on track with the sleeping situation - fingers crossed, let us know how it works out.
Glad she had a chuckle - B does that too when we tickle him - very cute!

Spot Don't worry B's passport pics look like ET