March 09 - The spring babies have sprung

[jollyjoanne]

Thought I'd start us up a post-natal thread for the new mummies of March 09 (or thereabout!)

Arrrgh ! Hi all - having a terrible time here with sleep. The last few nights Lara has done one sleep of about 4 hours and then hardly slept after that or kept waking up. Last night she slept for 4 hours (from 9.30 and I didn't get to bed until 10.30) then was awake 1.30 - 3.30 (1 hour feeding, 1 hour trying to wind her, finally settled when she vomitted down my top) then awake again at 4.30 - tried to get her settled until 6 when I woke DH with my sobbing , he's still in spare room. He then sat up with her on his chest and then got up with both dds. Am so exhausted. Have tried various things - now wondering if it was the formula I gave her at 1.30. So tonight I'm going to try to give her EBM at that sort of time as she falls asleep v. easily with a breastfeed so doesn't take much and then wakes up after an hour that way. If that doesn't work I'll offer her to the secret services as a weapon of torture (weak ). Thankfully she's been very smiley today so makes me realise its worth it....

Sorry for the whinge.

Laumiere - DD1 was sleeping 12 hours at 10 weeks through fluke..... Can't see this being repeated here !

Meep - Lara has a bit of gunky eye in the first few weeks. We were told just to clean it and only worry about it if it went green.

We've been wondering about eye colour here too. DD1 has the biggest bluest eyes going - Lara's are quite dark blue at the moment but seem to be going lighter. I have greenish eyes, DH blue (all his family have blue eyes).

Corgi - hope the cold is getting better.

Right, good luck all those doing the school run tomorrow. I am dreading it !

Also meant to ask how Lilymolly is doing - how's the feeding going ? Did the GP sort you out ?

Also noticed Titmouse was having some feeding problems and hasn't been on here for ages - hope all is ok...

wheely the gunk is green . THink I will speak to my GP and see what they say.

Sprry to hear you've had such a bad night - I would have been sobbing too. Keeping my fingers crossed that you have an easier time tonight - wishing sleepy vibes to smiley Lara.

Hi Thanks wheelybug Its nice to see someone cares for me!

Went to GP....took one look at matthew and said it was a bacterial infection on nappy area and he needed antibiotics medicine (systemic)

where not interested in me and my nipples

Cue another week of agonising feeding, went to support group, no real suggestion, seems I am doing everything right!

Matthew put on nearly a whole pound in weight withina week so obv it is doing him some good.

Anyway a breast feeding midwife came to house on Thursday, and took swabs of matthews bum and my nipples to check exactly what we both had (if anything) she was hugely supportive and thinks I may have a very strong let down reflex (it feels like a contraction in my chest and is really agony for about 30 sec) and also thinks I am doing everything right, and eventually my nipples will toughen up!

Get results out tommorrow so hopefully everything will turn out ok.....I actually hope they find something, as matthews bum is NOT getting better.
Its red raw and bleeding

He still is Very content, eats every 2 hours during day, every 3 on an night (which I can cope with) and never cries.
He is just like his sister who is now 3.
I cant beleive my luck I have had 2 dream babies.

DD behaviour has also got much better, so hoepfully we are past the jealousy stage!

Oh is someone else pregnant AGAIN so soon??

Please someone give me a clue or a link!

Take care everyone

LM x

Livismum I know what you mean about wanting your DC to have a bit of you in them. There's no hope for me - I am blonde haired and blue eyed and my DP is Chinese, so very dark hair and eyes which are dominant. I'm half expecting people to think I have adopted him! So far, then only things I can identify which are "me" are Spike's expressive forehead and a deep philtrum (the channel under the nose). Great(!) Still, he is adorable, so I can't complain

Hi everyone

I have been trying to read this thread over the past couple of days, when I have got a chance away from my little terror (don't know what all the abbreviations stand for yet so forgive me). Hayden was actually born just into April, 13 days late, but I couldn't see a thread for April babies, so I thought I would jump in here as you all seem to be talking about things that have been bothering me too.

Anyway, just thought I would introduce myself briefly before I go back to reading all the posts and trying to work out what questions are the ones that I really need answers to (apart from the meaning of life and what have I done to myself by having a baby?) and I have already seen some posts that make me realise that no I am not the only person facing these problems/ dilemma.

Nice to read all your stories so far....
Kerry

meep it sounds like Rosie has blocked tear ducts, all 3 of mine have they can get infected so its best to get it checked out, but if you massage just under her (closest to her nose) it helps.

wheely sending little Lara lots of sleepy vibes for tonight

lily have you both been checked for thrush? what with your painful breasts and Matthews sore bottom its all sounds so much like thrush to me, the pain you get with thrush is like a stabbing pain, i had it with DD1 there was not visable signs other than her sore bottom.
oh and have a look at our anti natal thread .

laumiere, thanks for the debrief on controlled crying it sounds like something we'll end up having to do in a few weeks, but I do wonder how you know if they're not hungry or windy (this is revealing Rhys' own inclinations he eats CONSTANTLY these days!).

For all you BF'ers out there can it possibly be normal that a bub can eat every hour on the hour for 20 solid minutes each feed? Please tell me he'll space out the feeds eventually...don't think it's a matter of not getting enough out of the breast, as he's slobbery and milk-drunk after every feed. I am wondering though wasn't it you, wheely, who was talking about an imbalance between foremilk and hindmilk? Maybe that's it...

His cold hasn't gone to gunkiness, but he's just out of sorts and puffy and miserable. laweasel, glad to hear Molly's better -- it's encouraging to hear that colds don't last forever!

meep, I think synchronised napping deserves to be an Olympic event.

wheely, sorry to hear about dreadful night. Hope tonight is MUCH better and that you're up and running for the school run tomorrow.

yarnie, I wish there were greeting cards with "Congratulations on your philtrum" message.

Blimey... appears my admission on the antenatal thread has caused a bit of a stir.

Am still reeling at the prospect of having two children under a year old - almost under 10 months old come to think of it. Was a one-off slip-up at the beginning of the month - took the morning after pill less than 12 hours later to be on the safe side but conceived nevertheless! Juggernaut ovaries alert!

Am jetting off to Gay Paree tomorrow for my photoshoot and will have to keep schtum about bambino #2 but am feeling light-headed and exhausted (just like with my first pregnancy) so hope I don't end up passing out or something like that. Jimmy is big and "advanced looking" for a 7-week-old... he'd probably pass for 3 months. But ever since I got the big fat positive he seems to have somehow shrunk in my perception. Does that make sense? Yes, so he's big and tall but he's barely 2 months old - he's a tiny baby, no matter what way I look at it. I suppose I've been trying to fool myself otherwise to make the prospect of another seem a little less terrifying.

Hope all the sniffly babies get better soon. Reading through the thread it's struck me that there seems to be an extortionate number of absolutely beautiful names in the March 09 cluster.

Urrgh I have a sniffly baby too
She did not have a good night last night, I am shattered without doing anything!! On the plus side, its back to school for one of my girls today, the other goes back tomorrow.

Urrgh I have a sniffly baby too
She did not have a good night last night, I am shattered without doing anything!! On the plus side, its back to school for one of my girls today, the other goes back tomorrow.

Dunno what happened there

Lolianja I am a little but also a little Congrats! Dh and I have already talked about number 2 (seeing as I'm not getting any younger) and I'd like to think we'll be expecting again before the year is out.

Ok. Who wants a giggle at my expense?

We went to the pub yesterday afternoon. After a couple of hours (which involved the Chelsea footy game and much cheering from the patrons during penalties at which Amy did her startled starfish impression) I had to go and change Amy.

So, into the little room we go, nappy off - and she decides to wee. Not too bad I think... and then she projectile pooed!!! And I don't mean a little bit. I never knew it could come out with such force! It went everywhere - down the wall, on the floor, all over her and the change mat, and yes I was stood in the path and got it all down my top. I had to shout Dh away from his pint to come and help with the cleanup. Luckily we laughed... but I did have to go back in wearing a pooey top

It has taught me to take a change of clothes for her everywhere now though! Guess I should have thought of it before.

at Amy for both her startled starfish impression and her poo-ing tactics (she obviously is not a Chelsea fan!!).

loli yes it does make sense - I suppose it is your reaction to what is going on and making you want to make the most out of Jimmy's baby days before the next one arrives. I am sure it will be tough at the start but then can they will be such great friends/playmates growing up that it will be a doddle!

3cute that makes sense. Dd1 still has one eye which has a weepy spot which is porbably a blocked tearduct. I will start on the massage and hopefully that will sort Rosie out.

Hello Kezzabell - welcome to March!

corgi - hungry + lots of rooting with mouth and cheqing ofhands. Windy + pulling legs up to chest, going bright red and doing facial contoritions. Well that's how it goes with Rosie.

I'm lucky so far as I can put Rosie into her Moses basket not quite asleep and she'll drift off. If she starts howling I know she needs food, burped, or (like last night) just a cuddle. But dd1 was just a mystery to me and we never had any idea what was wrong and she just howled. (still does as my dh can testify after last night's debachle. She was so loud that she woke me up and I am sleeping downstairsin the spare room - anyone got any tips with htoddlers who wake up and scream for a cuddle in the middle of the night?)

yarnie my dd1 is the spit of my dh. The only things she seems to have inherited from me are fine hair and a widows peak hairline - poor thing! But as she gets older (and gets more hair) you can see that she is in fact my daughter too !

lily you are doing amazingly well with the bf afterall the problems and pain you are going through. Like you I went to the clinic, got mw's to check latch and all the things you're supposed to do and they all said I was doing it really well. But it still hurt all the time. You have my utmost respect for battling through and continuing to bf.

Link to loli's news here

grinning we decided to start trying after dd1 was 1 year old - we conceived on day 364 of her first year - I was also not getting any younger but had been banking on it taking longer than one go!

grinning, I definitely needed a good projectile poo laugh today!

Firstday on my own as DP went back to work, and it's been HORRIBLE. Rhys has slept exactly 20, count 'em, 20 minutes since waking up at 6.30. The rest of the time he's either feeding voraciously or howling like a siren. I keep thinking, 'oh god, it's only been X hours since DP left - HOW AM I GOING TO DO THIS?'

It's maddening - if I hold him, I can sometimes get him to drift off, but minutes after I put him down, he'll come shrieking back to wide-awakeness. No wind, clean diaper - he's just demon spawn.

Right - whinge over. Or, as one of my uncles would say, 'do you want some cheese with that whine?'

corgi is your uncle my FIL? He loves that phrase

Sorry to hear you're coping with demon spawn today. Get him in the pram and walk, I bet he'll sleep then - and he might even let you stop for a well earned coffee. He could be just too awake and unable to get himself to sleep.

PS I used to stand at the window sobbing with dd1 just waiting for my dh to get home - and when he did she would be thrust into his arms as soon as he opened the door!

corgi, different cries. High pitched siren is windy, flat howl is hungry, intermittent yelps is bored.

I can believe Rhys's eating patterns, Gabriel has done much the same (I suspect 8 week growth spurt). G has also put on another 2lb and is now 14lb.... I am watching a lot of TV!

oh god corgi. I think I would have gone crazy already! Can you put him in the pram and walk to a friend's house? Sometimes they calm down when they're just being held by somebody that isn't mum and is a bit calmer (having not had to listen to them scream since 6.30) If not just a walk generally (especially over lumpy ground) is awesome. At the very least it gives you a change of scenery.

hey all mille mercis for the sympathy and advice. Am feeling infinitely better after a long walk which resulted in a grand total of wait for it -- THREE HOURS of quality nap time for the little man. Phew! I've seriously been getting concerned for him, having read that a minimum of 10 hours' sleep out of 24 is crucial for proper development. Laughing at him now, as he woke up ravenous and does the most entertaining barracuda-like lunge at my boob!

meep, it would be most odd if my uncle and your FIL were leading a double life. Said uncle was recently fined for deer hunting out of season -- sound like something your FIL would do?

I can see myself all too well, hopping impatiently from foot to foot as i listen for DP's key in the door, shoving the wee one at him and fleeing for the high life in Brussels (or at least to the corner shop for a pack of Rolos, which is pretty much the same thing).

fearless, I am trying to be more matter of fact, as you say, but I think there's going to be a learning curve. I wish he'd accept swaddling, as a lot of the trouble seems to be that he wakes himself up with that blasted startle reflex WHEN do they outgrow that? but he absolutely works himself into a frenzy trying to get free.

laumiere, I LIVE for the day when Rhys' crying vocabulary is more than a one-note shrek (or, more probably, when I learn thesubtleties he does have). It just seems that no matter the situation, he goes from silent to shrill howl at Maserati-like speed. Maybe he needs language lessons from Gabriel and meep's Rosie!

Welcome Kezzabell

Corgi Maes cries all sound the same, but her body language and facial expressions tend to give her away. Scrunched face tends to mean pooing imminent, goldfish impressions, sucking her hand and licking her lips tends to mean hungry, legs drawn up tends to mean wind and sticking her bottom lip out means boredom.

Grinning love the poo story, a friend already told me a similar one with her baby pooing across three chaning tables in mothercare - fortunately no other babies were getting changed at the time!

just wait till you get a poo in the bath story! Oh how my DH panicked !

Welcome Kezzabel

Well we made it to nursery on time although with a lot of shouting 'come on get dressed we're going to be late' etc. Then made it to baby massage which was good - made Lara v. relaxed and she's slept lots today which I don't know if its a good thing or not !!
Another bad-ish night last night although better thanks I think to Infacol helping her belch .

On the wind front - my friend who has recently had prem twins was told by SCBU that if their tongue is up on the roof of their mouth thats a sign they have wind. Have yet to try it out though.

Also just been to a children's party - lara got her first party bag .

Mind you it didn't help that dd1 fell out of bed and hit her head in the middle of the night too - oops. She's only ever fallen out of bed about twice since being in a bit (2 years) so not sure what caused that !!

Lily - sorry to hear the gp wasn't much help, you are doing brilliantly. It still hurts here after almost 6 weeks but some days worse than others. Not sure why. I spoke to one of my friends yesterday who started mixed feeding quite early on (2 weeks I think) and managed to breastfeed to some extent until 8 months. She said just to replace the same feed every time (she started with a 10 pm feed). Its something I going to start I think once I've worked out if formula is causing her night problems.