December 2006 - The sun has got his hat on, hip hip hip hooray, tshghho now let's keep these bugs at bay

[LenniEd]

I got all brave and made us a new bug free thread...

Gah, forgot to send much sympathy to Indith over DH's knee and dd's sleeping. Can't give any advice on the sleeping except to say I've been there, so I know exactly how you are feeling. I remember the time around 7/8/9mo as being particularly horrendous but just when I thought I was going to go utterly crazy, he improved a bit. Hang on in there .

I know, oli, it's hard to know what to say as ds1 adn ds2 were both horrendous sleepers

at least, I've been there, too and survived...barely

Argh. DS awake all night last night. 11am-2am actually up out of bed playing. This baby malarky is hard work. Think it might be teeth (wishful thinking) but sounds like you are having a much harder time Indith. Are you out of the area of your sleep person now? Maybe worth another plan since a lot has changed since you last saw her? DS now firmly in the camp of not sleeping for anyone but me and last night and tonight have resorted to cuddling/rocking/feeding him to sleep. He wailed horrendously even with that so there was no hope of him going off by himself. He is refusing his dummy too which is what makes me think teeth, plus has a temp of 38 and is snuffly but comes down with calpol and seems totally fine when awake.

Also - Oli/Indith/Jabber/any others of you who carried on with bf, did you ever get them to drop feeds in the day and if so how/when? DS still feeding 3 hourly and only really dropped 10pm feed, other than that day and night feeding like a newborn. He looks about 12-18mo now, he's off the height chart he's so tall and I'm starting to get fed up of feeding him constantly in public with him crawling off mid feed and my boobs being on seemingly constant display. Am desperate to get him to drop a daytime feed but he's resisting - any ideas?

Lenni, have you had his ears checked? It sounds similar to the way ds2 behaved when he had his ear infections. He didn't really have symptoms in the day but screamed blue murder at night and wouldn't settle because the pressure in his ears changed and hurt a lot when he lay down. Might be worth getting someone to have a look, especially as he's got a minor temp too?

I'm no help with the bfing either as ds2 was feeding 3 hourly until he was well over 1. I used to wear baggy t'shirts that dropped down easily if he got distracted but other than that, no idea! Never sit down is the best thing I can think of, as ds2 would demand it the minute my bum touched down .

I'm with oli on both - sounds a lot like when ds2 had ear probs and we never dropped feeds. In fact, he would proably still be bfing if I had not had a week long workshop out of town. He still wistfully asked for mommy milk.

"asks"

Lenni I'd say the same about ears, ds is still like that when he has an infection, makes me feel very when it finally pops and I realise what was causing it (again) though dd was quite like that with her teeth so maye something will come through and he'll settle down.

I think I was vwery lucky with bf as ds dropped everything so naturally and so has dd (well, apart from at night of course). Dd tends to feed before going down for morning nap (so around 8) then after lunch (12 ish), sometimes during the afternoon, especially if we are at home, if out she won't bother to ask she'll be too busy looking around) (maybe 4 ish) and then before bed (6.30). At the moment I don't feed first thing, she isn't interested, but she always feeds at 5 anyway.

Ds being evil, he is mostly regular now but sometimes dosn't poo for a few days and after 1 day he turns horrible. We are now on day 3. When he finally goes it is like someone flicked a switch and he is all sweetness and light again. Given up on lactulose as he doesn't struggle to do it anymore he just doesn't.

See new HV on Thurs so shall see if she has a magic sleep wand. And talk legs for ds, am slightly concerned as he still walks and runs like a baby and stands with his thighs together and legs splayed out from the knee.

Anyway, lunch. Dd is complaining.

DS worse last night - am off to GP to have ears checked, but not until tomorrow, hoping for some sleep tonight. Last night was awful, he wailed and wailed and was up most of the night. He only stopped crying when I held him upright and rocked him back to sleep. Had to do it for 20 mins of every hour though! I'm not complaining about his usual night feeds for a while after this!

Funnily enough Indith, DD is also evil before she poos! Really grumpy and irrationally toddler like.

Oh and went to hospital yesterday for DS re: his pupil. Not sure if I told you all about it but one dilates more slowly than the other so GP referred us to have it checked. Was all ok except it is 'abnormal' so got to go again in 6 months, but vision fine so that's the main thing. Consultant said to me "You remember Madeline, the girl who went missing? She had an abnormal pupil." Well that puts my mind at rest

OK, i've made the thread go bold sorry abot that...

Disconnecting tomorrow (computer, not me, hopefully, though doubt I'll be far behind...) so quick wave and sleep vibes and get well ears...

Into the Chaos I go

Goog luck Eli.

Lenni what did you press woman? None of the other threads I'm on has done this! Hope sleep is better for you tonight and that ears are ok.Sure pupil is nothing to worry about.

Dd in bed, ds watching ITNG before bed. Soon peace will reign. Until dd wakes up anyway.

Oooo, very bold.....

Thanks Indith. Cross posted, or rather, delay between posts due to hairwashing night...

What is INTG? If it keeps ds quiet, it might keep dd quiet too.

In The Night Garden Eli

Oh, yer all very bold, so you are.

Is it time we had a new thread?

Good luck with the move, Eli - is that why you're switching off? Or the bold...
I'm sure it's not you, Lenni Will text you about date but mobile went awry today. Re: dropping feeds, if you drop a day one won't he just be more likely to wake up at night? With ds2 and dd, I stopped trying, they give them up when they're good and ready unfortunately. The dt's up until last week were having 5 bottles a day which is ridiculous. Realised that I needed to cut one out when ds3 started throwing everything over the side of his highchair grrrr. Ono one bottle this morning and ta da he didn't throw a thing. I did get really sick of the feeding with ds2, introduced a lunchtime bottle at 9 mo for that reason as I couldn't stand it anymore (the faffing, I mean). Although it probably led to eventual end of bf, I'm sure.
I've kinda missed everything else this post, and need to sort a mountain of boys' clothing on my bed in order to get into it. I hate summer/winter changeover time in my house. DS1's saved for ds2, ds2's saved for ds3, ds3's in charity bag, get out next sizes for all, go to NCT sale to buy clothes for dd. Arrggghhh.

I was kind of hoping dropping day feeds would mean he would eat more food. But he eats a fair bit anyway so probably wishful thinking.

Yes, is about time we had a new thread. But at least I can't make this one any bolder... a new one is a danger for me!

Lenni, what did you do ? It seems to be a Dec06 problem, my homepage is an old thread (pre christmas, don't ask!) and that's bold too. Most peculiar but much respect to Lenni for high tech breakage.

From what you said about ds last night I'd say ears are definitely the problem. Haing to be held upright to sleep was a sure sign that it was bad. It was usually followed by the eardrum popping which solved the problem but needed ABs so maybe keep a check for icky greeny yellow gunk coming from his ear over the next day or so.

Lots of luck, Eli, see you soon!

DS2's room also covered in outgrown clothes with no place to go. DS1 is so much bigger than ds2 so I will have to keep his clothes for years and years before ds2 will fit into them and I have nowhere to put 4 different sizes of clothes (ds2 is just moving into 2-3yrs, ds1 is going into 7-8yrs) so I don't know whether to keep them or pass them on to someone else who could actually make use of them.

Yes, move, not the bold! Bold sort of matches how I feel (stressed) which is fine

Piles of clothes on beds...huge sacks of dd1's clothes for dd2-one-day ready for removal van...AQ, I can only imagine that multiplied by 3!

Daily, thanks for translating..shame though, dd hasn't been interested in INTG for a long time (blame big sister's influence). Its all Tinkerbell, Barbie, or anything pink now

ITNG

Night

I've told the powers that be and they are fixing it ... tomorrow. Not just me either - there are a few bolders out there!

Thanks for ear advice Oli - unfortunately they won't see me at the doctors bloody SF - he has a temp and cold symptoms so got to have tel consultation. I'm a bit since they won't be able to look at his ears!

Good luck Eli - will miss you. See you at your new abode hope it all goes well and not too much sanity is lost.

Lenni, have you got an in-ear thermometer? I used to find that the side with the infection was slightly higher than the other side. If he's as bad tonight I'd phone up and make a huge fuss about being seen. FIL caught one of ds2's ear infections last year and said it was the most painful thing he'd ever experienced. He's also permanently deaf in that ear as the infection so badly damaged the drum. The surgery refused to see him too and by the time they did it was too late, which is why I'm so paranoid about ears and infections these days.