we did it, we did it, the babies are here, now come and join us and we will give you a cheer!!!!

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Hope this works

thought i would start a thread for those of us already in the heady World of motherhood, so we can share the trials and tribulations of the early days....

I shall start with my birth story and hope other's follow and I haven't started a dud thread

As you know I was dreading a 3rd CS, almost to the point where I was having panic attacks - we went in on the Thursday and after waiting for an EMC we were taken to theatre where I was DELIGHTED to recognise the aneathatist (sp!!) who helped deliver DS2. Now, one of my major fears about a 3rd CS was the fact that having had a "perfect" excperience with DS2, it6 wouldn't be possible to experience the same thing again...I was wroing, it was better The whole thing was started at 1315 and Tallulah was born at 1344 weighing 7lbs 2oz. She has a shock of dark hair but seems so small compared to the boys who were 9 and 10lbs respectively. The care I recieved was absolutely 2nd to none - no complaints or gripes.........So far so good.........

HOWEVER.........my god, do you forget the pain of breastfeeding before the milk comes in - I am in absolute agony and have had to top up with aptamil as the poor wee thing is so, so hungry...I am literally BF for up to 2 hours (the point of pain in both udders ) and then topping up with Aptamil. She guzzles 30ml and then settles.......As for sleep - sleep is for wimps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im also kinnda doing GF although it is very GF lite. Henry put himself into a routine almost right away but the timimgs weren't the best so ive been aiming to get him on the GF timings. But I dont wake him for a feed and he sleeps when he wants. As long as we start the day at 7 though he seems to follow it fine on his own, the only thing I have to do is go for a walk at half 3 otherwise he wont sleep and becomes very grouchy for the rest of the evening.

We are also co-sleeping at the moment and not doing the whole 'no eye contact thing at night' but the books good for pointers on daytime naps

Pinkglow our big problem is also the afternoon nap time - my LO just doesn't seem to want to sleep during the morning or afternoon, although he will have a lunchtime nap. He seems quite awake sometimes and can spend up to 3 hours awake - I don't think he's getting too overtired but I'm not sure what to do about it??

Anyone ever used GF on a sick baby? I feel I need to start using GF again as DH and I were up the entire night with James as he can't sleep at night due to mucus and coughing - like adults he gets worse at night. I feel a vicious circle is forming now though and need to get the daytime 'wake time' sorted so hopefully he WILL sleep at night, even for a short while.

I've had about 4 hours sleep in 3 nights, not good and I'm exhausted now and worried it will affect my milk supply.

MummyNic I don't see why GF couldn't work on a sick baby, I guess you just need to be more aware of his needs due to his sickness but the principles should be the same. Saying that I haven't tried it with a sick baby so it might not work, but I don't think you'd be doing James any harm by trying it.

Good luck!

sorry to hear about your bad night mummynic, and I hope that DS gets better soon.

have you tried raising the end of his cot and using saline drops to help clear a stuffy nose? karvol on a tissue next to his head might help to clear his airways as well.

re exhaustion and milk supply; I had a quick look on kellymom but couldn't find anything, which makes me think that it shouldn't affect your supply, provided DS is feeding well. Other than trying to get as much sleep as possible during the day I'm not sure what else you can do. My DH and I have been taking it in shifts when DS2 has been unsettled so each of us get at least a few hours rest.

morning everyone, posted last nite on the an thread instead of this one!!
lack of sleep i think!

nice to see everyone getting there!
monkey i too am having problems getting ewan to settle in moses basket, he just wants to cosy in all the time which is lovely but i too would like just a little sleep.

daisy yep i braved to look at my undercarriage yest, the epi scar not too bad but the couple where i tore and had to get stitched not looking too pretty yet!!
if you dont mind me asking, how did you get rid of your little friend? wishing mine would just magically dissapear!

hi to everyone else
x

A combination of anusol, distilled witch hazel and ice packs. The hospital gave me some little sachets of irrigation solution which frozen are like mini ice pops and just the right size for popping in your knickers. I was wrapping them in gauze (to avoid freezer burn) and soaking the gauze in witch hazel......very soothing. I also used arnica cream on them as well.

Talk to your doc if they are bothering you though as they can give you something stronger.

mummynic, guess what? my little dd has bronchiolitis too...have just spent since 7am in hospital with her after calling an ambulance because she was not breathing for 10-15 seconds and ketp happening over a period of 20 minutes and was getting quite blue. She also has mild reflux so the coughing with milk coming up and the snot were making it all quite hard for the poor little thing to breathe. Apparently it is likely ds2 will get it too. Anyway, she is sturdy and I am relieved I know what it is and know what to look out for, but there were moments of panic when it was first happening. I definitely have LBS and have now called an ambulance twice (once when pg and now with dd) for the first times in my entire life. I am usually a 'don't make fuss' person, but just feel these are so precious, and so much more panicky than I was with ds1. Slept 2hrs total last night, not sure what tonigh will be like...feel scared to sleep.

Lacks, are your boobs better, sorry if I missed post, I've only had a chance to scan.

I haven't weighed myself since giving birth...but I have been making the most of no gest diabetes anymore and stuffing face with all sorts of chocs, sweets etc.

monkey, sounds like you are getting well sorted. i've given up on moses baskets and cots for now, too tired for the battle...

merry; I hope she is OK soon. This bronchiolitis sounds frightening.

boobs were feeling better, but I've had a few odd twinges again today, and DSs tongue still looks really furry and coated. I'm going to get us back to the docs on Monday if no better.

merry sorry to hear your baby is sick too.
Dinky has a vsry snuffly nose but is feeding fine and breathing well, if still sounding like a creaky gate.

Her cot has two next directories (prolly the same ones we used for DD1!) under the feet at the head end, which helps a lot.

choco glad you got a good sling to use!
And babies need different amounts of sleep- he may not need so much.
When DD1 slept through for the first time- 7to7- she didn't sleep at all the whole of the next day. She never had more than a 20 min nap at a time in the day after that,until she was about 11 months old- then she started sleeping until 7:30 and had a 2.5 hour nap in the afternoon.
She still sleeps for about 1.5 hours in the afternoon now.

DS was quite different, he slept quite a lot as a baby and also selpt through much earlier (thopugh didn't have reflux), but stopped having a nap every day by the age of 16-17 months- he would then only ahve about an hours nap three days a week.

The main thing for me with sleep is that they learn to go to sleep happily by themselves at bedtime and sleep all night.

sorry for ramble.
Hello everyone- hoipe you arte ahving good weekends, despite colds and cold weather.

Just been putting DS2 in his jammies for the night. Vests that fitted him two days ago I can't get fastened at the crotch any more . He seems to have expanded overnight!

and we have just this minute had a major digestive breakthrough....literally. He has just self-burped for the very first time....yay virgil

Oh Gosh Merry so sorry to hear about DD. DH and I are doing 'graveyard shifts' with James - taking it in turns to stay up with him. It gets much worse at night so we prop him up on cushions on the sofa and prop our eyes open with matchsticks.

Leaky we've raised his carrycot and have had saline drops since the first visit to the doc but neither help, certainly not at night. He managed 2 naps in his cot this morning but throws up if we put him in it at night.

I have just rung the ward as he's thrown up again, not through coughing either. That's 2 throws today but 4 in 24 hrs. We're giving him a 2oz formula feed to see how he goes as I onlly finished feeding him about an hour ago but he's rooting like mad. If he throws this up I will have to ring them back....

|Watch this space......

Hello everyone, sorry DD is ill MMarigold, well done Leaky's DS2!
Interesting how all the LOs have their own approach to naps and when and where to sleep. Scary how many of them seem to have issues with reflux, and as for bronchiolitis....
DD is doing so well, we had our best night yet last night, even DS was only up twice, and baby ate at 11, 230 and 6 which I think is very good for 10days old!
Any decision on the northern meet up?

hi ladies and welcome back ruth .

ruth - my DH currently is playing a lot of computer games until 2am or later at night! But still leaving me to get up to do the 2am ish feed?!! Then he comes out with comments like "i'm knackered". He should try going to bed 10.00pm ish to get up between 1-2am (depending on if Alyssa has read the rules), back to bed half hour to hour later then up 6/7am to feed Alyssa then stop up to do housey stuff and get Alyssa stuff organised before DS gets up 8ish (but earlier at moment as has d & sickness). So I have 3 good hours sleep then about another 3 or less of broken/half sleep. Then got ALL house stuff, shopping, finances and a 2 and half year old DS and newborn to look after during the day! Then when DH comes home I do the tea, clear up and look after two children (with a little help from DH). DS goes to bed 7.30 ish so I end up with if I am very lucky 2 hours of ME (and DH) time before I have to go to bed.

Am I a selfish cow for having bad feelings towards DH and also hating the fact that I may only get 2 hours to "chill" in a day and everyday is the same?

Will try to catch up on the posts. Hugs to anyone who is in need.

So at my own thoughts and behaviour at the mo.

I hope these poorly babies get well soon

leaky Virgil is expanding,and burping- this is good.

I am trying to prepare myself for the fact that dinkyminky is going to have to move into her 0-3's next week. I can't really put it off any longer though I'm not sure I'm going to be able to put the newborn thigns away for the last time without shedding a tear.

Just how soppy am I??

Yorky glad your dcs are sleeping well.

We are doing the pre-christams playroom cull tonight. Going ok so far.

vbab, you are not nasty and selfish at all . He is the one being nasty and selfish imo. Parenting is a joint venture and he should take joint responsibility for helping out, especially with the 2am feed if he is still up anyway.

mummynic, for your poor DS. I hope he keeps some formula down this time. Will he be readmitted if he is sick again?

DS2 has been lying over either DH or my lap all evening when he hasn't been feeding, and starts grizzling if laid on his back. This could be a long night. And I offered to do it solo tonight so that DH could get a decent night's sleep as he is getting increasingly more grumpy and irritable.

hello all!
May I join you?
So lovely to be here at last

Have just managed (for the first time ) to put Will to bed. We have kind of cuddled him a lot and let him fall asleep in our arms so he hasn't been too keen to be put to bed!! Last night dh and I took it in turns to stay up with him as he would not sleep in cot. Twas a nightmare!! Today we moved cot closer to the bed and decided to try him with a dummy - sofar so good (although he woke up when the dummy fell out - I,ve taken it away now - if it helps him to settle that's cool!!)

Anyone else trying a dummy? I felt really bad (don't know why - felt like I was fobbing him off I suppose)

So 20 mins passed and no probs so far - am pleased - is huge progress from last night!!

sorry - totally x-post - am too slow!

THANKS for the support. I'm still up at the mo because discussed/TOLD DH that I am having a lie in tomorrow (I had lie in today that I forced DH into when I refused to get out of bed) and he is doing the early morning feed . To which he has agreed but is sat currently with his face touching the floor saying he is feeling a little s**t at the moment .

So I've got a pint of lager shandy and bowl of popcorn and I'm up past 10.30pm! I know how to walk on the wild side ladies.

I've negotiated/told DH that I want a lie in (till 9 would do) on Sat and Sun and him to do the early morn feed (2/3am) on Sun so I can have a full night on sat to do what I want. This way I get one FULL nights sleep a week and another day lie in. DH gets 6 nights a week FULL sleep as he is back at work. He seems to have gone with the idea, time will tell, but he has just gone to bed with his face touching the floor. Am I bad?

Vbab sorry I x-posted with you before and left the computer, so completely missed your post.

AS others said, you are not being selfish at all.

They are his children, too. I think yuor compromise sounds positive, I hope you do get some rest, and time to yourself, too.

morning all

Vbab I do hope you are enjoying a lie in this morning and still in the land of nod - think you've earned it! x

Had a good night with Will. (huzah!!) He slept from about 10 - 2.00, 2.30 - 4.30, 5.30 - 8.00! Am feeling so chuffed as the night before me and dh were taking it in turns to soothe him on the sofa. He only used the dummy at the start of the night - it seemed to help with the transition from cuddle and feed to settling down in the cot - he didn't need it to settle after feeds after that.

However - that was only one night...

To My secret Stork (and anyone else who wants to see) There's a pic of William in his secret stork outfit on my profile if you want to have a look!

Good news, James kept the formula down. I've been reading up on colic and wonder if he has that too....

Leaky I think they would have taken him back in. He's just had a little sick now (attempting GF again - he doesn't realise he's meant to be asleep0 so I'll watch him.

Best go - coughing time for James....

Ooh, also - anyone know anything about talipes? William has it on his right foot. I think it's to do with how it was positioned in the womb and he will probably have to have physio on it - just wondered if anyone had any experience of it and did it get sorted?

Grrr grr grr - no time to post, I want to use my spare 5 mins while DH settles DS to have a bath.

Rubbish night - up from 2.30am - 6am. Why has my little darling been a little horror??? And why oh why can't I get mad at him when he looks up with me with his lovely blue eyes??????

Ok - clean slate for DS and today is another day.

Hope you all had better nights / have a good day! x