we did it, we did it, the babies are here, now come and join us and we will give you a cheer!!!!

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Hope this works

thought i would start a thread for those of us already in the heady World of motherhood, so we can share the trials and tribulations of the early days....

I shall start with my birth story and hope other's follow and I haven't started a dud thread

As you know I was dreading a 3rd CS, almost to the point where I was having panic attacks - we went in on the Thursday and after waiting for an EMC we were taken to theatre where I was DELIGHTED to recognise the aneathatist (sp!!) who helped deliver DS2. Now, one of my major fears about a 3rd CS was the fact that having had a "perfect" excperience with DS2, it6 wouldn't be possible to experience the same thing again...I was wroing, it was better The whole thing was started at 1315 and Tallulah was born at 1344 weighing 7lbs 2oz. She has a shock of dark hair but seems so small compared to the boys who were 9 and 10lbs respectively. The care I recieved was absolutely 2nd to none - no complaints or gripes.........So far so good.........

HOWEVER.........my god, do you forget the pain of breastfeeding before the milk comes in - I am in absolute agony and have had to top up with aptamil as the poor wee thing is so, so hungry...I am literally BF for up to 2 hours (the point of pain in both udders ) and then topping up with Aptamil. She guzzles 30ml and then settles.......As for sleep - sleep is for wimps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can I jump in please

My little Henry boy was born just under two weeks ago.

Nights are'nt too bad - Ive had a couple of nightmare ones due to him having bad wind but infacol seems to have sorted that out but about halfway through the night I end up co-sleeping as he seems to sleep better. He is another one who is peeling away at the moment.

Regarding the bleeding my midwife told me before I left the hospital to not expect it to be like a period eg it starts off heavy then gets lighter and lighter. She said that somedays it will be very light then a few days later be really heavy etc

Hello pinkglow and welcome to baby Henry!!! Is he your first??!

Congratulations pinkglow.

Wow Pinky thanks for all the sling advice, you sound like an expert!!

Sorry about the bad night Merry and at you DH for being a plonker - sounds just like a man for only following half the instructions!!

Welcome pinkglow and congrats on the arrival of Henry!

choco I got a bit carried awat I think. If midseeis our pram nerd, mybe I'm the sling nerd!
really bad at typing and winding baby at same time- can you tell??

the spelling and grammer has really gone to pot since we became a PN thread!!!

question if your LO feeds and then pukes all over you should you try and get themb to eat more straight away??

I would prolly clean the vom off me first
Often babies posset because there is a bubble of wind somewhere. I doubt he'd bring up a wholer feed, if that's what you are thinking, but sometimes babies need a mid feed burp- so if baby is still hungry, I would carry on, if not, I wouldn't. But make sure you've got the wind up first.

Sorry peeps, only skimmed the posts. Sorry to all those who had a bad night, we had our first bad day/night combo yesterday and last night. I think it may have been something I ate (egg pasta) as Zack has been so good so far, it was like I had someone elses baby for the day. Ds2 always screamed for 24 hours pretty much after I ate egg too and he now has all kinds of allergies, so I am a little nervous and being very careful with my diet. The problem is, careful = boring.

Right, just a quicky really as I thought I would offer them here before putting them up for anyone to have. I have 2 Jasper Conran (debenhams) sleepsuits in Newborn, which don't fit Zack . The were bought as a gift, he has worn 1 once, the other has been washed but not worn. I am offering them to anyone here who wants them for free. I want soeone to get use out of them. The tag says 8lb, 56cm. Zack was 9lb 1oz and probably 56cm long on Monday, lol! This is what they look like

Go to share this...

...dh just offered to cook for me. Ahhh..

BUT I have already cooked. Maybe he knew this, not sure how he could miss the smell of frying bacon!

Another dh gem, "I think I've come down with something..." My professional opinion (knowing him so well) is that he is a bit tired .

Obs, glad to make you smile and smirk . Some of it was meant to. I too feel a lot better. Babies have been little angels today, going 3-4 hours between feeds. Why not in the night, eh? I slept in pm with ds1.

The babies look so cute today. I am back in love, till 2am no doubt.

Pinky, Ah, pouch is what I was thinking of getting. Or Obs' one. Interested in the double pouch though...may be manageable for me. I am a bit rubbish...couldn't manage a wilkinet with ds1. Have just about managed baby bjorn! My back is fine, had no trouble carrying the twins when pg, but would rather have something better for their backs, so they have only been in for about 10 mins at a time.

Welcome pinkglow. I remember your name from AN thread...cos of the 2 other 'pink' names.

ChocO, glad GF is working out. I think a big part of it is that you are feeling more in control.

Henry just puked everywhere in his moses basket - I said to DH did you burp him after his feed to which he replied no.......ah that'll be why then

Anyone got any tips on 'settling' at the moment I hold him until hes asleep then move him into the moses basket other wise he cries although I only let him do this for a minute tops before I pick him up again

Oh dear, Pink!

merry- MIL says her brother used to come down with all manner of phantom food poisonings, flu viruses, terrible back pain etc.etc when each of his four children were born.

Bless them, I think men feel a bit left out!

Love the offer amid aroma of cooking food. classic!

Sorry pink, missed the bit about settling.
Have you tried putting a blanket or sheet on his back whilst you hold him, then lay him doen with the blanket underneath-that way your smell and bodyheat will stay with him whilst you lay him down.
You could try giving him a minute or two to settle by himself- he may just be grumbling from being moved, IYSWIM.

Oh dear for the bad nights.
Glad someone mentioned the 3-4 week spurt, I will be looking out for that one, I had forgotten all about it.
I still haven't tried DS in the tricotti, just haven't had a mo when he wasn't either unsettled or so settled there was no way I was bothering him.
Like right now. How awful that instead of being happy that he is sleeping, I want to poke him awake. It has been ages since he last fed. Or at least it feels that way, actually last feed was 3.30ish, so 3.5hrs....? Not too bad yet.
We are never happy are we?

Ooh, I also have a ring sling (made by me out of an old sarong) but I think I didn't thread it right, DS kept on slipping down and I had to keep tightening it
I used it with DD when she was much bigger and it was ok. So I am hoping that it was just my threading.
What is the kangaroo hold?

HM2J those sleepsuits are very cute and I would love them but I reckon Mack would only get very short wear out of them - perhaps best to send them to one of the AN ladies who has a boy on the way?

Pinkglow - as I write this I too have puke all over my shoulder - the moses basket thing is a problem we had too - I wrapped the matress in one of my worn t-shirts as they are meant to like your smell, also if its cold warm it with a hot water bottle - as for the settling I leave Mack if he is whimpering and leave him to cry for 2-3 mins and only when he is actually crying where I think he won't settle will I pick him up - this is really working for us as I find he sometimes whimpers for quite a while (but doesn't sound distressed) and then settles himself, other times it does turn into full on crying so I go in and pick him up. Oh also - I don't know if you are swaddling him but we bought a proper swaddle blanket on Tuesday (£15) and he seems to settle much better when he's in it and also I put a rolled up towel down the side of him so he's very snug. Good luck!

Does anyone else hear babies crying in their head all the time now?!?! Even when I am BF I can hear the echo of cries!!

Has there been a decision on the date for the Meadowhell meet up for Dec?

Congratulations Pinkglow Dozy I will def be with you on the weight loss programme in the new year I have 3 - 3.5 to lose

Sorry its brief I am so tired hi to everyone else!

right LADYBUZZ that's me and you signed up for the 3 stone to lose diet...I want to be 10 stone again (bear in mind please, that I haven't been this since before DC1, 5 years ago) BUT am determined to do it now.

For all of you having problemd with moses baskets - have you tried putting your LO into a grobag??? That way they still feel secure and warm.........

Pinkglow - you live near me and Chocorange!!!!!!!

I keep forgetting to ask this - is anyone following the SIDS advice to put their babies to bed with a dummy at the chance of reducing cot death???

Me too dozy I want to be 9 - 9.5 stone. I was that weight about yearsago whn I got pg the first time!
Jay has a dummy but only because he would eat all the time otherwise he will only have it when he wants though its not consistent!

evening. gosh it's been busy on here today.

Obs, I would say growth spurt or wind as well. with DD, whe she did this we would let her suck on a finger for a bit; if it was wind she would be happy to suck, but of she still wanted feeding then she would soon let us know about it.

Dozy, I've tried to get DS2 to take a dummy, but he is having none of it.

ChocO, re the posseting. You could always offer the boob again after he's possetted; if hungry he will feed, if not he won't . I'm not sure about GF's BFing credentials, but I imagine she advocates expressing as a way of counteracting the fact that feeding a BF baby to a strict routine may interfere with your supply in the long term. I would loosely do her routines but try and feed on demand as much as possible, if that makes sense.

Hi Pinkglow . Congratulations and welcome to Henry

We had much better night here last night. He was still feeding every couple of hours, but went straight down again afterwards . He did cluster feed from 5.30 till 8.30 though and was a bit unsettled this morning, but he has been great this afternoon and evening. the Colief is definately having an effect as the one feed we forgot to administer it before, he was a real nightmare afterwards.

Saw the doc and have got some fluconazole tablets on prescription . Pharmacy were out of them though so won't get started till tomorrow , although things are improving a bit as we bought some tablets over the counter the other day. Had a good chat with the doc about his latch and ways to try and fix it as well. She is such a great doctor. And his latch deos seem a bit better today. I'm being pretty firm with him; and relatching him if it doesn't feel 100%.

Didn't get my 5 nano-seconds of fame today . film crew delayed as they had to go and cover a breaking news story and they weren't getting to Leeds until about nowish so we decided it was too late. they were still planning on interviewing my doula though and the report should go out on Monday. I'm a bit disappointed as I dyed my hair, cut my fringe (and it's only a bit lopsided ) and tidied the living room to the point of presentable..all for nothing!!!!

erm, can't remember what else.

oh, Yorky...I noticed that Roxy on EE has called her baby Amy!!

will also join you in the post Christmas weight loss campaign . I'm also wanting to get back to my pre DS1 weight (my "pulling weight" ). Is it a third baby thing as well?

It's my 40th in Feb and I had hoped to be there weightwise by then.........but that was before I got pg with DS2. So, my 40th birthday challenge is to get the weight and fitness sorted (getting a Wii and WiiFit for Crimbo) and to learn to play the guitar!

Hi all,

sorry to hear about all the horrible nights - I keep telling myself in just a few months it will all be over and to soak it all in now.

Choco I asked myself the same question about feeding once baby been really sick - the other day I had my first and only glass of champagne as a few friends over so we toasted baby - anyway, next feed she brought loads back up - woops! I felt really bad - it must have been the champagne, don't you think?! Don't think I tried to feed her straight away as thought she would fuss when she was hungry.

DH gone on head wetting tonight - he has done loads round the house this week - at least 3 washes a day, cooked dinner every night, hoovered whole house, changed all beds and done school runs - saying that when he left I still couldn't help but sarcastically say 'have a great night, you really deserve it, well done for all your hard work'!! He does deserve it but then I can't help but begrudge that I am left with 3 stone to loose and sore breasts and 3 kids and no wine!

Dozy I'm in for the 3 stone loss too.

lACKS/leaky - know I am speaking to an expert but having suffered from hideous soreness with feeding with all of mine and going to a breastfeeding clinic after 8 weeks of pain with my first I know that it is possible to have pain free feeding even with hideously sore boobs if the latch is right. Am stll struggling this time round but defo would keep taking baby off if it is a painful latch and re-try.