Sept 08 - Is it day or night?

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Hope no one minds me starting a new thread?

Have been Christmas shopping on line (bargain spotting) and thought this would be a lovely first Christmas present for my LO to keep! Personalised Christmas book for £2 inc postage. So I had to tell you all about it too!here

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Sometimes (when not in pain with colic) Toby will go for about 6 hours from his last ff.

He is a very greedy baby though, so not sure if he should go longer. I also think he is having a grwith spurt as he is 6 weeks tomorrow and his feeding has gone mad/eratic.
I really those of you who know when your baby is going to feed!!!!!

I think it depends on how much ff they have and when IYSWIM? eg: 6oz at 11pm would probably get you a good few hours, but its not guaranteed!!!!!!...Toby fed at 9pm, midnight and then 4am last night and drained 6oz each time!

Am sooooooo tired!

Maybe someone who knows more will be on soon?

By the way, anyone heard from leonieD??? Her last post was really down ...am a bit concerned about her......

hopefully, Charlotte takes about 650mls every 24 hours in formula. She feeds around 7am, 10.30am, 2pm, 5pm, 7.30pm and has her final feed at 11pm and then sleeps through the night until around 6.30am. This doesn't happen every single night - say 4 or 5 out of every 7.
At her 11pm feed she will take anything from 90 to 120 mls (sorry, don't do ounces!). On Sunday night she was very sleepy and only took 30mls at 11pm and woke at 3am for another 100mls, so it seems to be the formula that gets her through.

Having said all of that, i would have loved to breastfeed her and think you've done so well with your DS. I'm not advocating ff, just giving you the facts about how Charlotte does. i also think that I am lucky/she is unusual, as she's been doing this routine since she was 3 days old - I'll probably pay for it when she's 16 and turns into a delinquent or summat !.

Btw, just so you know it's not all plain sailing, she is a very grizzly baby during the day and evening. At 11pm, it's like a switch has gone off and she relaxes. She's crying now and probably will for most of the day.

Hi Hopefully, during the day Erin will go between 3 and a half to four hours for a feed, at 120 mls each feed. Sometimes she will drain the lot and will want an extra 50-60 mls, other times she will be quite satisfied with 120. In the evening she will feed just before we go to bed, 11.30pm and will sleep through to 6am ish.

Last night she was very unsettled, and DH did not get her to settle until midnight, but she slept until 6am. Again she has been very grizzly and has only just nodded off now since waking again at 9.30am.

I'm a bit tired but mainly because I actually shifted my backside out for a run last night. I only lasted 20 mins but I want to steadily increase over the next few months and then join a local running club if I can.

On a sadder note, my Grandad passed away on Sunday, peacefully after a very short illness. I'm so glad that he met Erin a good few times over the last 6-weeks, and is now in a better place.

Take care.
KGx

Kagey Really sorry to hear of your Grandad, very sad news.

just found leonieD on hopefullys sleep thread - sounded OK

Kagey sorry to hear about your grandad. Glad he got to meet Erin though.

Thanks for all your tales of sleeping babies everyone. I'm going to try expressing and either topping up/getting DP to give a feed for at least another few days.
I figure if I can last another week, even if I only get the odd longer stretch when DP gives an expressed feed, T will have had 8 weeks exclusive BF. If he has to have a bottle of formula for his evening feed at that point (if expressing doesn't become less of a hassle - only get 1oz at a time, so takes ages to get a feed full), then I'm not going to eat myself up with guilt - he'll still be having breastmilk for almost all of his feeds.

Is everyone managing to give their babies tummy time? T will just about put up with 2-4 minutes of it, but much more than that and he gets mighty cross. i keep reading how importamt it is for development, so it is becoming another source of pfb guilt.

Hopefully Okay, - NO research has gone into this, but I don't do tummy time. DS hated it so I hardly did it with him and physically he's advanced for his age.

I tried it once with Baby Starlight, but she just fell asleep. However, carrying her around one handed whilst dealing with DS, she has HAD to support her own head now and then.

The way I see it is, - they're not gonna have floppy heads til they're 18, just because you didn't do tummy time!

I do think, once thay become more curious and independent, that floor time in general is important, - so thet can learn to wriggle, roll etc.

starlight I find T is increasingly holding his head and looking around as I wander round the house with him (he has developed a fascination with mirrors, so we do a tour of the mirrors in the house a couple of times a day!), so probably I can stop worrying that he'll still be flopping down head first when he goes off to uni!

Just heard the weirdest clicking noise on the baby monitor. Rushed up to check what T was doing, and he was fast asleep sucking on his fist. Tragically he's now waking up, as now his hand is out of the swaddle he's flailing it around every time it falls out of his mouth.

hopefully - A has had a formula feed last thing at night a few times. I think it helps if he's having a time of fannying about at the breast and not drinking properly, but most days it doesn't make him sleep any longer.

I'm assuming that formula usually makes baby poo a bit greenish and sour-milk smelling? After a few bf feeds it's back to normal. Although A has spent since 5am basically peeing and pooing. Which I wouldn't mind if he wasn't so noisy about it!

A likes being face down on my lap but I haven't done other tummy time - until someone in my antenatal class mentioned it last week I thought it was one of those things you did with older babies.

And huge Bad Mummy guilt - went to visit my parents yesterday, having made them buy a car seat and they swore it was fitted in the car. Got to station and finally got pushchair folded, but could not get the straps elongated to fit round A, even after 20 min and getting the help of a local woman with 3 kids who thought she knew how to do it. So given the seat would stop him being thrown forward, risked the 5-min drive at 10mph. Followed by getting the manual out to ensure we could be safe on the way back. It's ridiculously hard - technically possible to adjust the straps without taking the seat out of the car, but only just, requiring two hands where you can't see anything!

Still, we all survived my parents looking after A for two hours while I had a nap. Most odd seeing a photo of me at his age with him in front of me wrapped in the self-same blanket!

Hi all,

Kagey, sorry about your grandad. It's cathartic that he met his great grand daughter and did not go suffering. You must miss him...

phew, Obama is president - I was fearing another fiasco such as the Gore/Bush one. Of course, I got to follow a lot of it during the night as D fed often (as expected) at 9, 11, 1, 3:30 and 7:30. We have both been busy, but I'm knackered and he's not.

On a different note, I am concerned that this is the 4th day without any poo. As he is eating and wetting his nappies, the nurse (which I swinged by to see yesterday) did not seem overly concerned, but I kind of am. Does anyone's LO go the same amount of time without poopage? He's 5 weeks old...

hi pacita - myy dd often goes 3 or 4 days w/o poo. just you wait it'll be huge when it comes!!

dd1 once went 8 days - yuk

Pacita we've had one stretch of 6 days with no poo, one of 4 days, and plenty of 24-48 hour stretches. He got really uncomfortable with the longer stretches, but I didn't have to resort to anything alarming to make him go (apparently the doc can give something like lactulose, but unless they're really suffering they don't like to).

Thanks ninja and hopefully. I'll wait with baited breath for the big poo explosion...

notcitrus Charlotte's poo is occasionally greenish, but mostly mustard coloured.

Went to baby sensory class today. Have to say i enjoyed it! Most of the babies were between 6 and 9 months old but there were a couple about 12/14 weeks (who were both sleeping from 7.3pm to 6.30am!!! Apparently, they just did it around 10 weeks). Met up with a lady who had a c-section the day before me in same hospital and her son was in neo natal care with Charlotte.
C didn't really take it all in but she didn't cry and just gazed around alot. best thing was getting out and feeling as if we'd really done something with the day and she had stimulation.

Downside is she slept in the car there and back but apart from that she hasn't had any real nap time today and now won't settle at all. I'm having to rock her to get her to settle and she keeps dropping her sodding dummy just as she's nodding off!!

starlight totally agree with you re tummy time. C naturally holds head up when i carry her so i'm happy with that.

Alice had a massive poo at 1pm today. I am writing this in my diary as it is the first time (so far) that she has only had one poo in a day. It seems like every nappy change is either a poo or a wet fart. Hallelujah!

DD1 still not walking... sigh. seeing the consultant on Friday.

I went shopping yesterday and bought her the cutest little boots for when she ambulates under her own steam again.

Alice is gorgeous right now, sleeping in one of my many wraps.

No tummy time here either - DS hated it, but was pretty strong vary soon, always trying to stand up. DD is pretty much the same, likes sleeping on her tummy occasionaly, but not when awake, and like Starlight, she's mainly carried one-handed

kagey - sorry about you grandad, at least he got to see Erin.

not getting any better here - still little naps during the day and she's started waking for full feed around 3, followed by a chat again... jiust when i thought she was about to go all night...

But foxy when DD1 finally walks again, won't it feel like the end of the newborn stage - it must all be so linked.

imoscarsmum the class sounds great - it is good to get out to something. I've missed my baby groups this week as DD1 has a really high temp and has been off school poor soul. M has been very sleepy today which ha made looking after both of them easier - in fact they're both asleep now (although I'm sure not for long!)

Am amazed at those of you who can just put your babies down and they go to sleep. That has only ever happened once with Alfredo (who is 9 weeks) when I put him down on his tummy in the morning while I did some hoovering. This was about 3 weeks ago and had never happened again. At night, no matter what time I try putting him to bed he needs to feed for hours and hours and then DH has to bounce him on the ball for 20 minutes to rock him to sleep. Or I feed him lying down and he dozes off for 10 minutes before squawking to let me know he can't reach my nipple, last night this went on for 2 hours (after an hour long upright feed) and I sat up to feed him again, eventually passing him to DH who finally bounced him to sleep by 12:30am.

It's just so depressing going upstairs at 7pm, knowing that we're going to spend the next 5 hours trying to get DS to sleep. Have started expressing for the 3am feed so DH can takeover that one.

On a more positive note, Alfredo's spent the last two nights sleeping only in the bedside cot (not on DH's chest or in between me and DH), so we have some progress.

WRT Tummy Time - DS now officially sleeps on his front (please don't report me ), so has plenty of tummy time when he's shifting his head from side to side as he's attempting to wake up. He holds his head up most of the time when I carry him and when I'm in a seated position he has also started standing up in my lap as his body rests against my chest.

DS has begun to develop a rather inconvenient habit of wanting to feed hourly from 11am and then not wanting to be put down after 3pm, no matter how tired and sleepy he is. He is currently asleep on my lap using my boob as a pillow.

Feeling rather haggered and have started to drop off by 8pm...when will I ever have an evening out?? Can't face organising a baby-sitter until DS starts letting us sleep a bit longer through the night. I know if I went out for a glass of wine I'd pass out with exhaustion.

dg, you're not alone! DP spent 2 hrs trying to get dd to sleep - listening to one bryan adams' song on a loop, as that was the only thing to get her quiet. after 1/2 hr of sleeping, she woke up and only fell asleep (almost instantly) when dp gave up and put her next to him on the sofa... we had a few nights when it only took about 1hr to gewt her to sleep in her crib, but lately she's been coming back downstairs to sleep on either of us... and same thing during the day, mainly sleeps on me or wakes up after about 10-15 mins she's been put on sofa... don't understand why she has no probb falling asleep in her crib after the 11pm feed

digitalgirl my DD1 was exactly the same - I'm amazed everytime that I manage to get M to sleep easily or when she's gone by herself (a couple of times).

One thing I am doing differently is putting M down to sleep A LOT sooner - even if she's only been awake less than an hour, the first sqwark means she's tired, and now she's sometimes even closing her eyes as I'm putting her in her pram. I used to think with DD1 those noises meant I'm bored. Saying that I think DD2 is just calmer full stop rather than it being anything I'm doing.

It will get better - promise!

digi - A is like that - except when he isn't. Yesterday he was the most charming baby ever, and I was able to tell his grandparents that he only screams for food, and grouches for a new nappy and squeaks when pooing.

Except for days like today, which has been non-stop squealing like a stuck pig since 5am, refusing to feed for more than 2 min because he has to do another explosive fart...
Settling to sleep? We tend to just keep him downstairs in the pushchair/a lap in the evenings, and I take him to bed with me. Tends to fall asleep between 7pm and 1am!

I'm having my first evening out tomorrow (arranged 6 months ago). MrNC and a friend should be fine, but I've warned people I'll probably need to leave early or fall asleep on the train home. {nervous}

sorry for the hijack guys i had my ds in july and i have a medela swing breast pump for sale used little as you can see he was only born 18 weeks ago wanting £35 if anyones interested

Hi ladies,

Thanks for your kind words, at least we have Erin to cheer us up.

On the poop front, Erin is pretty regular but was told that if she does get a bit constipated, to give her some cooled boiled water.

Take care, x